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Kim Garam

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Failed WP:GNG and WP:NBLP criteria with lack of significant coverage from secondary reliable sources that are independent of the subject other than controversy/departure from Le Sserafim's debut-related reportings and subsequent low-depth routine coverage tied to the same single-event cluster. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 03:58, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

• Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, Women, Korea, and South Korea. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 04:00, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

There is coverage from multiple independent reliable outlets (including Yonhap News Agency, OSEN, Korea Herald, and Star News) spanning both debut and post-departure developments. While much coverage is clustered around her departure, there are also later reports on subsequent public activity. I believe the subject meets WP:GNG due to sustained independent media coverage, and I will continue improving sourcing quality. Oreoiscool99 (talk) 04:00, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

• Redirect to Le Sserafim: Unfortunately I think WP:BLP1E applies here as she is largely not notable outside of the circumstances surrounding her departure from the group. There has been some reporting on her from reliable sources since then (eg BuzzFeed News 2022, Maeil Business 2025, Chosun Biz 2026) but not enough to build a full article at this time. Quietly running a YouTube channel does not give enough for a GNG pass. MidnightMayhem (talk) 08:22, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Jjpachano (talk) 16:30, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
• Keep. Appears to satisfy GNG, with significant coverage which goes beyond one event, and which demonstrates she is individually notable. In particular, I am not aware of any guideline that excludes coverage of Youtube activities from GNG. Nor do those activities appear to be the same event as the departure, which was several years earlier. James500 (talk) 20:35, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  I'm not agree. It still doesn't have enough individual relevance to warrant its own article. Techgamer534 (talk) 17:22, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:48, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

• Redirect to Le Sserafim: She is not yet relevant enough to warrant her own article. Techgamer534 (talk) 11:35, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
• Redirect This page should be redirected due to the standards of wp:n. This page doesn't have enough significant coverage and shouldn't warrant a separate article page from Le Sserafim. Staticspector (talk) 23:47, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

  WP:ARTN says "if the source material exists, even very poor . . . referencing within a Wikipedia article will not decrease the topic's notability." If you run a search for 김가람 AND Youtube OR 유튜브 in Google News, a lot of additional coverage comes up. James500 (talk) 18:41, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

  Yes, but even so, it still doesn't have enough individual relevance to warrant its own article. Techgamer534 (talk) 08:40, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

  The notability guidelines do not require "relevance". James500 (talk) 09:15, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

• Keep/Draftify - This article looks good and needs some more reliable sources and improvement. It should stay. So8LLingT (talk) 03:01, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

  This user provides superficial opinions not well grounded in policy. See contributions. Geschichte (talk) 13:18, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 01:25, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Keep the article has good and reliable sources Dinitrify (talk) 10:53, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I disagree. The sources seem very low quality. Four citations are from Soompi and Allkpop which are not reliable per WP:KO/RS, and several others including Star News and Chosun are AI translated. Do you have better sourcing? MidnightMayhem (talk) 23:42, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

None of the citations are now from Soompi or Allkpop. The Star News and Chosun citations are not now AI translated: They are now the original versions of the articles written in the Korean language. James500 (talk) 06:27, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, but even so, it still doesn't have enough individual relevance to warrant its own article. Techgamer534 (talk) 10:38, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Delete Subject has not demonstrated individual notability outside of her band other than minimal routine coverage. Doesn't meet WP:BANDMEMBER RachelTensions (talk) 06:20, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

The coverage of her activities outside of Le Sserafim is not minimal or routine. In any event, the guideline BANDMEMBER does not require "non-routine" coverage, and neither does GNG. WP:ROUTINE is part of WP:EVENT and applies only to articles about routine events: It does not apply to articles about people. James500 (talk) 06:35, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I never cited WP:ROUTINE.

However, I will cite WP:BLUDGEON. RachelTensions (talk) 08:10, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

• Redirect to Le Sserafim; it is WP:TOOSOON for this person. As a stand-alone article subject, she does not yet meet notability criteria for the general notability criteria WP:GNG, nor the subject specific criteria WP:NMUSICIAN, WP:ENTERTAINER or WP:BANDMEMBER. Netherzone (talk) 16:02, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
• Redirect to Le Sserafim - Her activities after leaving the group do have some media mentions but they are largely superficial gossip from sources of questionable reliability. Having some subscribers for her Youtube channel and going back to college are not notable activities that have generated more robust and analytical coverage. Perhaps she will develop an entertainment career of her own in the future, but for now it is WP:TOOSOON at best. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:05, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

• Redirect to Le Sserafim A lot of info I find about her is tied to her former group. Subject does not seem to meet WP:GNG.

Saenryl (talk) 21:45, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

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