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Pop music in Taiwan

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Pop music in Taiwan has been a stable two-item dabpage linking Hokkien pop and Mandopop since 2013. This has been expanded by User:Heeheemalu into a full article; however, this article makes blatant use of copy-paste with no attribution of elements found said articles. I'd also argue that it WP:CFORKs the content with no real benefit. Recommend to restore the dabpage. 162 etc. (talk) 16:52, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

• Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: Music and Taiwan. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:12, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

@162 etc. You mentioned that this article is a WP:CFORK from Hokkien pop and Mandopop but it is not the case if you read the article carefully. Yes, there are some overlaps with the two pages, however, these two pages contain significant information from other countries, e.g. Hong Kong, China, Malaysia, Singapore, etc.

The article Pop music in Taiwan refers to pop music that are specifically produced in Taiwan and/or associated with Taiwan's music industry since Taiwan under Japanese rule - not "since 2013" as stated by you. Therefore, Pop music in Taiwan is definitely NOT a WP:CFORK. WP:CFORK is defined as "a piece of content (such as an inter-wiki object, a page, or a page section) that has the same scope as another piece of content that predated it, essentially covering the same topic." Rather, Pop music in Taiwan is a standalone article that mentions all genres of popular music that originated in Taiwan throughout history, including Campus folk song, Taiwanese hip hop, Taiwanese Indigenous pop music, Hakka popular music and Taiwanese rock. It clearly details the reason(s) behind the emergence of each genre of music in the history of Taiwanese pop music and how this interweaves with the different periods in the island's unique history. None of this information is represented in whole in any other article. Other articles often only contain fragmentations of information pertaining to the topic of that genre, thus not painting the entire landscape of the history and development of the pop music industry in Taiwan.

Furthermore, your statement is inaccurate: this article is NOT a "blatant use of copy-paste". Instead, relevant information were merely extracted from each article and has been paraphrased, so the issue of non-attribution is not existent. Heeheemalu (talk) 02:23, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

If extracted paraphrased material did not need referencing, we could do away with the verifiability policy. -- Otr500 (talk) 05:17, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

@Heeheemalu: 2013 is when this article was created, not when pop music in Taiwan began. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:54, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

@Metropolitan90 I see, I've misunderstood. However, my previous argument still stands. If this article counts as a WP:CFORK, then every summary style article would count as one too. The purpose of this article is to act as a high-level overview of a specific geographic music industry, which is a recognized and standard practice under WP:SUMMARY.

• Regarding Content Forking: This is not a duplicate fork because articles like Hokkien pop and Mandopop are organized by linguistic genres and cover multiple countries (China, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore). This article covers a geographic and historical ecosystem, bringing together distinct genres to paint a complete picture of the island's unique musical timeline. None of those individual pages fully capture this shared cultural context.
• Regarding Attribution: @Otr500, I think I may have used the wrong terminology regarding extraction. If any content closely mirrors other pages, it is a licensing issue under WP:COPYWITHIN, not a core verifiability issue. Per WP:ATD, formatting and cleanup issues should be fixed through editing, not article deletion.

Hence, I strongly recommend keeping the article so we can clean up the formatting if there are issues, rather than reducing Taiwan's rich pop music history back to a restrictive two-line disambiguation page. Heeheemalu (talk) 08:43, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 02:31, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

• Note: this discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related AfD discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:56, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Svartner (talk) 09:08, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

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