Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/With Songs About That Kind of Woman
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 05:51, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
With Songs About That Kind of Woman
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Disputed drafification; WP:DRAFTOBJECT applies. I propose draftifying because it has not been proven to pass WP:NMUSIC. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 19:54, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Note: this discussion has been included in the list of Music-related AfD discussions. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 19:54, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Note: this discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related AfD discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:19, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Draftify or Delete - An assessment of the sources shows that they do not satisfy musical notability guidelines. They are user-defined content or record resales sites that prove that the album exists.
| Number | Reference | Remarks | Independent | Significant | Reliable | Secondary | Meets NMUSIC |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | https://www.allmusic.com/album/that-kind-of-woman-mw0000908241 | Allmusic | Yes | No | Yes | No | No. Music databases do not count toward notability. |
| 2 | https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/joe-williams/with-songs-about-that-kind-of-woman/ | Rate Your Music | Yes | Yes | No. Deprecated as user-defined content. | No | No |
| 3 | https://www.jazzmessengers.com/en/70439/joe-williams/that-kind-of-woman | A record sales site | Yes | No | ? | No | No |
| 4 | https://highfidelityla.com/release/9075922/joe-williams-joe-williams-with-songs-about-that-kind-of-woman | A record resales site | Yes | No | ? | No | No |
| 5 | https://abrodosmusic.com/products/joe-williams-with-songs-about-that-kind-of-woman-lp-album-re-very-good-vg | A record resales site | Yes | No | ? | No | No |
| 6 | https://highfidelityla.com/release/9075922/joe-williams-joe-williams-with-songs-about-that-kind-of-woman | Same as 4 | Yes | No | ? | No | No |
If this is draftified, it should be extended-confirmed protected and only moved back to article space through AFC. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:00, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- Keep. Satisfies GNG and NALBUM, with significant coverage in books and periodicals in Google Books, the Internet Archive and elsewhere. This album (catalogue number SR 52039, or R 52039) is also called "That Kind of Woman". A lot of coverage comes up on searches like "That Kind of Woman"+Williams. There are, amongst many other sources, reviews of the album at HiFi/Stereo review, June 1960, p 90 ; The Jazz Review, vol 3, No 7: August 1960, p 28; Down Beat Jazz Record Reviews, vol 5, p 257 (4 star rating, reprint of Down Beat, 12 May 1960, p 37); and "Album Reviews", The Cash Box, 19 March 1960, p 30. In addition to that, Williams single "That Kind of Woman" (catalogue number 4185) also has coverage. James500 (talk) 14:13, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- Comment - James500 says that the topic is notable. The article about the topic does not establish notability. The Heymann criterion should be to add links to the references and mentions of what the references have said, within six days. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:27, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We need a bit more input but I'm warning @James500: to stop bludgeoning the discussion as that drives off potential contributors. Let's focus on the sources not the policy wrangling as policy isn't going anywhere if the sources are inadequate.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 07:01, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- Obvious Keep, easily passes GNG and NALBUM #1 per multiple reviews found by James500 above from established sources such as Cashbox, The Jazz Review, HiFi/Stereo Review and so on. --Cavarrone 16:02, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.