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St. Cyprian Catholic Church (Philadelphia)

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WP:RUNOFTHEMILL church that is lacking in content and notability. Red0ctober22 (talk) 18:54, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

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Temple milestones (LDS Church)

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Contested WP:BLAR so bringing a proposal to redirect to List of temples (LDS Church). This page is a clear WP:CONTENTFORK of List of temples (LDS Church), with the addition of a couple of columns in the table that could, if editorial consensus allowed, be added to the table at the proposed target. (I personally think the list violates WP:NOTTRIVIA and appears to be a work of original research since I don't see an independent source that compiles all this data in a single place, but inclusion of content on another page is an editorial discussion for that page.) This page, meanwhile, is simply a fork of another similar topic and per WP:NOPAGE should not exist as a standalone page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:21, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

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Per my response on my talk page:

This was part of Comparison of temples (LDS Church) before the page got too large to show in full, and the primary trigger to why the page was split. These tables are not new, but the location is. Feel free to let me know if there's a better way to show this information.

The final table wasn't fully shown on the old page due to memory size issue which is why the page triggered a split, creating this page as a result. That has fixed the issue.

The content of the tables is nearly 100 percent pulled from a standard template that is used by multiple pages to fill in information. The template content used in infoboxes, tables, and other content across various pages. The content could probably be better referenced within the various temple templates as the content is unable to be individually referenced within the page. The presentation and purpose of the content is not the same in each list.

List of temples (LDS Church) is limited to only show latest milestones, excluds past rededications, and only allows comparing temples in the same status section, by that status milestone, while this one compares all temples by any milestone. Likewise, it shows limited sortable size characteristics and not other info that the other table in Comparison of temples (LDS Church) provide. List of temples (LDS Church) has a different purpose and was never meant to be a replacement of what these tables provide and vice versa.

If it needs to remerge, it needs to be remerged into Comparison of temples (LDS Church) and not List of temples (LDS Church). The memory size issue will also need to be addressed before merging. If it needs to be retitled "comparison of temple milestones (LDS church) or if you have any other suggestion, let me know.

-Thanks. Dmm1169 (talk) 15:51, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

I can't imagine that Comparison of temples (LDS Church) is appropriate as a page either (it seems to be a pile of OR and trivia and to violate WP:NOTDATABASE). Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:00, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

If not a page, what would you suggest? What space outside of mainspace will be most appropriate?

While not referenced, information is verifiable. However, WP:NOTDATABASE does clarify that even verifiable information does not mean suitable content for Wikipedia. The question is it suitable or notable for wikipedia standards.

There's pages that compare religious structures size, height, architectural content, etc. The information is pertinent to the architectural aspects and when significant milestones was reached for each structure.

Even though this page has been on Wikipedia mainspace for about 20 years, used and edited by several users over that time, I do not know of any "grandfather clause" that would allow any page to stay if it's deemed to fall short of the standard. In all that time, there seems to have been no challenge to the notability for this page under any grounds, and it may be more reason for it to be challenged to get a full discussion.

- Thanks. Dmm1169 (talk) 17:30, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

As a brief history, Comparison of temples (LDS Church) had one large table up until a few years ago when these tables were formed to reduce width of the original table and allowed more information to be showen. These tables existed within the same page but as separate sections up until yesterday when it prevented table(s) to be shown in full due to page size issues. The page was called Temple milestones (LDS Church), as that was the most brief description I found which described both tables within the page. - Thanks. Dmm1169 (talk) 16:01, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

Lake Montfort School, Virgonagar

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL Filmssssssssssss (talk) 00:47, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

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Delete or Redirect to List of schools in Bengaluru, where it's mentioned, as an ATD-R. Additional searches didn't yield anything useful to warrant standalone notability. BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 13:51, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

St Nicholas of Tolentine, Philadelphia

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WP:ROTM church article lacking in notability, and lacking in strong, independent sources. Red0ctober22 (talk) 19:15, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

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Delete Largely unsourced and otherwise lacking independent sources. Appears to be a rather generic church with no established historical or architectural significance (old does not mean historic does not mean notable). A redirect to List of churches in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia#Deanery 8: South Philadelphia and Northern Liberties may be appropriateReywas92^Talk 00:50, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

Alex Clare-Young

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WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE. I have exchanged emails with the article subject and they would like the article deleted. Notability is borderline at best, most of the sources are either BLP1E or primary. There aren't enough secondary sources to build a balanced biography, which leads to significant undue weight being given to a single event. Additionally, the lack of secondary sourcing and WP:SUSTAINED coverage leads to large portions of the article being out of date or incorrect. As the subject has requested deletion and the notability is borderline I ask that we err on the side of BLP and delete the article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:31, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

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Delete. It makes me sad to see an article on a subject like this go, but considering the state of transgender rights in the United Kingdom and the lack of sources for balancing it out, I can understand why they would not want something like this up. Delete per nom, WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE. 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

Delete Dubious wp:GNG. If Alex Clare-Young is that concerned about the article, that would get me off the fence; delete it. Adakiko (talk) 21:52, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

Courtesy Delete at subject request. M kuhner (talk) 23:01, 21 July 2026 (UTC)
Delete. I agree with the others. AndyGordon (talk) 17:18, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

Killing of Kim Sun-il

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This article fails WP:NEVENT since it does not have WP:CASESTUDY that discuss it WP:INDEPTH. It does not have any lasting WP:EFFECTS, and the WP:DIVERSEITY of sources can be called into question, since there are only news sources which cover the topic in-depth. The rest of the ensuing coverage comprises passing mentions. HerrHeulsuse (talk) 11:03, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

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Commment. The article does not cite any Korean-language sources, ko wiki has https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/001/0001843574?sid=102 and there is likely more. A proper BEFORE in Korean should be done before we conclude this is not notable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:15, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
PS. GS search in Korean gives some hits that seem to contain relevant discussions based on snippets, strongly suggesting sources exist. I am not prepared to say they do, but I am prepared to say no BEFORE in Korean was obviously done by the nom. I'd suggest analyzing , and which at minimum are scholarly works mentioning him. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:58, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
I don't think or contain significant coverage. is probably SIGCOV, since it focuses on source criticism. But this is only a lone source HerrHeulsuse (talk) 08:31, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
Coupled with media coverage (already cited), I am leaning weak keep now. And keep in mind I did not intended to present a comprehensive overview of sources, those articles were just the from the first page of GScholar hits that struck me as relevant. I might have missed some, and others may exist on 2+ page. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:54, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
If you want, then that's fine. But there is a reason that you can't use Google (or Google scholar) results to demonstrate notability. The concept could be mentioned but only passingly, but other people named "Kim Sun-il" may also show up. For example, there are various papers that show up using your Google Scholar result, where only the author is named Kim Sun-il. HerrHeulsuse (talk) 12:28, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
Keep. This journal article shown as my first hit on Google Scholar says The tragic killing of Kim Sun Il by an Iraqi armed Islamist group which occurred in June 2004 was an astonishing blow to Korean society and raised enormous amounts of public debate.. The BBC reference already in the article documents the profound impact on South Korean society. Along with many other sources, those are persuasive claims of notability. Cullen328 (talk) 07:41, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

The Door Within

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The only mentions of this are passing, altho that is more than the others I am AFDing. What look like reviews are short mentions a sentence or two long, not full reviews. Looking at the account, this strikes me as promotional and the account may have been connected, but it is long dormant. ← Metallurgist (talk) 08:27, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

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Surprisingly, Keep, though I think roughly 75% of this article needs to be removed in a TNT-like manner. Enough for NBOOK, listed below. ScalarFactor (talk) 00:39, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
- "The Door Within". Publishers Weekly. Vol. 252, no. 34. 2005-08-29. p. 61. ISSN 0000-0019. ProQuest 197059310.
- Prolman, Lisa (January 2006). "The Door Within". School Library Journal. Vol. 52, no. 1. p. 126. ISSN 0362-8930. ProQuest 211819926.
- Cooper, Ilene (2005-12-01). "The Door Within". Booklist. Vol. 102, no. 7. p. 45. ISSN 0006-7385. ProQuest 235509790.
- "Intermediate Fiction". The Horn Book Guide to Children's and Young Adult Books. Vol. 17, no. 2. 2006. p. 332-352. ISSN 1044-405X. ProQuest 207556704.
Keep as it meets NBOOK per the sources below — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk • contribs) 15:30, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
Keep as the reliable sources reviews identified in this discussion show a pass of WP:NBOOK so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:50, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

John Bevere

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WP:BLP of a writer and podcaster, not reliably sourced as passing inclusion criteria for writers or podcasters. As always, neither writers nor podcasters are automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on their sourceability -- but this is "referenced" almost entirely to primary sources that are not support for notability (his own website, his own YouTube videos, Facebook posts, directory entries, etc.), while the only third-party source present at all features him as the speaker talking about something else, and thus does not constitute notability-building coverage about him.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from needing much, much better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 19:30, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

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Comment: this is probably the same subject as what was deleted in the first nomination from 2013–14, and has also come and gone a few times in draftspace (the current iteration seems to have been a contested draftification, but one prior draftified attempt, and a few others that simply started as drafts, all eventually expired into G13). No opinion on the current article. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:31, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

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Delete: Unless I'm missing some instance of SIGCOV somewhere, I'm not seeing a single piece of RS material that contributes towards notability. Considering the perpetual recreations noted above, I'm inclined towards believing a deletion outcome should also come with a salting. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:44, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Bryant, Purvette A. (1998-03-28). "Ministry grows from career change". Orlando Sentinel. Factiva orse000020010918du3s00g9j. NewsBank 0EB4F422313A6DB6. Retrieved 2026-07-19 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: "While studying chemical engineering at Purdue University, John Bevere's goal was to become a manager for an engineering firm. But sitting in a church service one morning, he said he was directed to a higher calling: to become ordained to preach the Gospel. Although he knew he'd eventually enter the ministry, Bevere accepted a job at Rockwell International in Dallas. That was close to Word of Faith Outreach Church, where he attended Bible school and was ordained. Bevere moved to Central Florida in 1987 with his wife, Lisa, to become a youth pastor at a church. Then in 1990 they started their own ministry, John Bevere Ministries Inc. ... In Europe, the 38-year-old Bevere's half-hour television program, The Messenger, is broadcast once a week on Christian Channel Europe to millions of homes, said Simon Dillon, who schedules programming for the station based in England. ... John Bevere's six books include The Fear of the Lord, The Bait of Satan and Breaking Intimidation. Each was published by Creation House, a Christian publishing company in Lake Mary."
2. Brenner, Betty (1987-07-18). "Speaker sees 'vision God gave Tiltons' of Dallas center". The Flint Journal. Retrieved 2026-07-19 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: "John Bevere was a recent graduate from Purdue University in 1981 when, he says, God told him to reject other job offers as a mechanical engineer and go to Dallas, although he knew nobody there. At a Christian convention there, he went to a booth set up by the Word of Faith Christian Outreach Center, saw information about a night Bible school and immediately knew God wanted him to attend. ... Two years later, he was employed as executive staff assistant to Robert G. and Marte Tilton, who had formed the center and has been ordained by the center. Four years later, he remains on the staff of the charismatic 5,000-member center and ..."
3. Fletcher, Jovida (1992-05-15). "Religion notes: Workshops on ethics help celebrate 72nd anniversary". Orlando Sentinel. Retrieved 2026-07-19 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: "Evangelist John P. Bevere Jr., will be minister for meetings Sunday through Wednesday. Sunday services begin at 10:30 a.m. and 6 p.m. Services Monday through Wednesday begin at 7:30 p.m. A native of Louisville, Ky., Be-vere holds a bachelor of science degree in mechanical engineering from Purdue University. He attended Word of Faith Bible Institute in Dallas, where he was executive staff assistant in Word of Faith Church. Before becoming an evangel. ist. he was youth, college and career pastor at Orlando Christian Center and did the Youth Aflame television broadcast for a year."
4. Miller, Jim (2012-10-12). "Review: Honor for Him, not reward". The Daily Sentinel. NewsBank 141E702A7A5EB020. Retrieved 2026-07-19.
  The review notes: "Sometimes I wonder who thinks up the subtitles to books. Take John Bevere’s latest book, “Honor’s Reward.” It is subtitled, “How to Attract God’s Favor and Blessing,” which on the surface has an attractive ring to it, but on reflection made me wonder, Why would I need to “attract” something I already have and have had since Christ entered my life? Still, despite the publisher’s caption, I respect John Bevere and was eager to hear what he had to say. So I ordered the book and sat down to read. From the start I realized I had a dilemma. Normally, it is not my practice to roast a book but, rather, to simply tell what the book is about and let you decide if it is worth reading. As for Bevere’s book, truthfully, while there is much I found valuable in it, there are some things I did have a problem with. "
5. Hofmeyr, Rob (2012-08-08). "Relentless - Poor interpretation - This is a theological reflection of the American "can-do" philosophy". The Citizen. NewsBank 1474B78C24319C18.
  The review notes: "Relentless by John Bevere (WaterBrook), R187,95. ISBN: 9780307730763 - As with many popular Christian writers, Bevere chooses one text and builds a book on it – bad in a sermon; unforgivable here. ... This is a sad product of the fundamentalist, pot-boiler publishing industry."
6. Wicoff, Mary (2007-11-16). "Evangelist to share message with hundreds". Commercial-News. NewsBank 11CFA44449623CA8.
  The article notes: "About 700 people from across the Midwest are expected to turn out Sunday night to hear author and evangelist John Bevere. ... Bevere is well-known among Christians for his books and teaching materials used by churches in the area and across the world. He also is co-host of "The Messenger" television program, airing in 216 countries. He and his wife, Lisa, founded Messenger International in 1990, and live in Colorado Springs, Colo. ... His latest books are "Driven by Eternity (Making Your Life Count Today and For-ever)" and the new "Honor's Reward (How to Attract God's Favor and Blessing).""
7. Kennedy, Allison (2004-09-04). "Author: Get closer to God". Ledger-Enquirer. NewsBank 104EA8AAB37845C2. Retrieved 2026-07-19 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: "Knowing about God is a lot different than knowing God, according to a Colorado-based speaker who's recently written about that subject and who's coming to a Columbus church later this month. John Bevere of John Bevere Ministries just published "Drawing Near," (Thomas Nelson Publishers) in which he makes that distinction. He has also written "The Bait of Satan." His wife Lisa, who often leads services with him, is also a published author with such titles as "Healing for the Angry Heart." John Bevere Ministries has offices in Australia and Europe, and between publishing and speaking, Bevere is frequently on the road."
8. Holmes, Cecile S. (1996-07-27). "Overcoming life's obstacles". Houston Chronicle. NewsBank 0ED7B56E6D14D4A6. Retrieved 2026-07-19 – via Newspapers.com.
  THe article notes: "In his newest book, author and evangelist John Bevere of Orlando, Fla., explores his contention that Christians who overcome spiritual obstacles in how they live and do business will see tremendous change in their lives. Using biblical references and practical pastoral anecdotes, Bevere argues in "Breaking Intimidation" (Creation House, $10.99) that many Christians battle people, situations and experiences that block their ministry, but that most wrestle with the effects of that intimidation, "rather than battling the source." ... Bevere, a charismatic who practices and preaches that the baptism of the Holy Spirit comes with divine spiritual gifts (such as prophecy and speaking in tongues), is a former engineer who left his work in 1990 to assist in churches' helping ministries. Eventually he felt called by God to enter the traveling ministry."
9. "Drawing Near: A Life of Intimacy with God". Publishers Weekly. Vol. 251, no. 12. 2004-03-22. p. S16. EBSCOhost 12637881. Gale A114742294. Archived from the original on 2026-07-19. Retrieved 2026-07-19.
  The review notes: "Bevere, host of the weekly television program The Messenger, offers keen biblical insights in this spirituality book about enjoying true intimacy with God. ... Readers will be startled by some of his fresh, perceptive observations about various biblical passages, or the attention he gives to certain glossed-over details. The writing is not exceptional, but the prose is straightforward and conversational, as though Bevere were sitting down to a small Bible study with a few friends."
10. "Killing Kryptonite: Destroy What Steals Your Strength". Publishers Weekly. 2017-10-16. Archived from the original on 2026-07-19. Retrieved 2026-07-19.
  The review notes: "Bevere (The Bait of Satan), Christian minister and cofounder of the missionary organization Messenger International, fills this insightful book with the allurements and powerful effects of sin. ... He is uncompromising in his strong, orthodox opposition to he perceives as the erosion of Christian standards in the modern church. He clearly wants to be among those answering the call against sin as he implores others in the Christian community to join him. If creeping compromise is indeed the kryptonite of the modern church, then Bevere stands on solid ground in his passion for holiness and purity. This accessible book will invigorate Christians."
11. "Honor's Reward: The Essential Virtue for Receiving God's Blessings". Publishers Weekly. Vol. 254, no. 34. 2007-08-27. p. 79. EBSCOhost 26424829. Gale A168360219. Archived from the original on 2026-07-19. Retrieved 2026-07-19.
  The review notes: "Bestselling author and international conference speaker Bevere (Driven by Eternity and Bait of Satan ) is known for his trademark theme of believing in God for the impossible. ... This reads as distasteful and greedy when contrasted with the fact that even Christ had nowhere to lay his head. The principle of honor is a worthy one, but Bevere's approach deteriorates too frequently into a what's-in-it-for-me tenor."
12. Schmelzer, Kate E. (June–July 2007). "Cool Reads: Thriller". Ignite Your Faith. Vol. 65, no. 9. p. 32. EBSCOhost 25302288.
  The review notes: "In Rescued (Bethany) by John Bevere and Mark Andrew Olsen, a fun submarine excursion turns into a deadly nightmare when an underwater accident threatens the life of Pastor Alan Rockaway. As time is quickly running out, Alan's teenage son frantically searches for a way to save his father's life. But physical death is far from the real issue facing Alan Rockaway. It's what lies beyond death that really matters most in this thrilling modern-day parable about heaven and hell."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow John Bevere to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:59, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

Keep per above A bag of many boiled potatoes (talk) 19:10, 24 July 2026 (UTC)

Preliminary keep with multiple books from Thomas Nelson and HarperCollins, he's likely to pass WP:NAUTHOR. Jahaza (talk) 19:02, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

Chaldean Syrian Higher Secondary School, Thrissur

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Fails NSCHOOL. Only a primary source provided. LibStar (talk) 03:04, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

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Delete: Found nothing with SIGCOV in additional searches to warrant standalone notability. BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 14:51, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Bishop Moore Vidyapith, Kayamkulam

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Since last AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bishop moore vidyapith kayamkulam, consensus has changed and high schools no longer have inherent notability. This one fails NSCHOOL. LibStar (talk) 00:46, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

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Delete: Found nothing with SIGCOV in additional searches to warrant standalone notability. BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 04:58, 17 July 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
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St. Augustine's Higher Secondary School, Karimkunnam

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Fails in GNG as well as WP:NSCHOOL. My BEFORE yielded only directories and listicles, but no RS having SIGCOV. BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 13:30, 10 July 2026 (UTC)

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Comment: The first nomination from December, from the same nominator on nearly identical grounds, ended in withdrawal when additional sources were presented; however, the user that provided those sources turned out to be a sock. I don't know if all that was forgotten or if this is simply a do-over as the entire basis for withdrawing has been undermined (socks' opinions don't tend to count in the long run). No opinion. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 15:29, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
Delete Fails NSCHOOL. Only a primary source provided. LibStar (talk) 01:20, 16 July 2026 (UTC)
Weak keep as per the reliable newspaper sources identified in the first AfD which the nominator considered good enough last December but apparently not now and which the delete voter has not considered, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:19, 17 July 2026 (UTC)

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Comment: Out of the 4 sources cited in the previous AfD, 3 are TRIVIAL mentions and 1 is ROUTINE reportage. None of them have SIGCOV. Withdrawing my nomination in the previous AfD was nothing but a hurried and poor judgement on my behalf. I pardon for that. So, as it stands now....there isn't any SIGCOV about the school. BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 06:15, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

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