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Ethiopia

Battle of Hagoogane (1920)


Battle of Hagoogane (1920) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm nominating this article for deletion because I have been unable to find sufficient substantial coverage of Hagoogane to justify a standalone article. Of the eleven references currently listed, only two appear to discuss Hagoogane directly, and both do so briefly. One refers to the event as the "Hagoogane raid", while another appears to describe it as an avenging raid. An additional source provided on the talk page explicitly describes Hagoogane as a "looting raid". Taken together, the available sources do not appear to provide substantial coverage of Hagoogane as a distinct battle.

There are also several detailed claims in the article, including casualty figures, force strengths, belligerents and parts of the narrative, for which I have been unable to find support in the cited material. Other works have since been mentioned on the talk page, but it has not yet been demonstrated that these provide the substantial coverage needed to establish Hagoogane as a distinct and independently notable event. Some of these works are also not currently cited in the article, and relevant page numbers have not been provided.

I raised these concerns on the talk page before bringing the article to AfD, but the underlying issue remains. The question is not simply whether individual statements can be given additional citations, but whether reliable sources provide enough significant coverage of Hagoogane itself to satisfy WP:GNG as a standalone subject. Based on the sources currently available, I do not believe this has been demonstrated. The difficulties verifying the main points of the article also raise separate concerns under WP:V and potentially WP:OR. For these reasons, I believe deletion is appropriate. These concerns were also supported by @Replayerr on the talk page, who agreed with the issues raised above. (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Battle_of_Hagoogane_(1920)#c-Replayerr-20260725183700-Johannes_Klarnus-Pettersen-20260725012500). Johannes Klarnus-Pettersen (talk) 03:58, 11 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete. I agree, you should also maybe tag whoever made that article. Yubudirsi (talk) 15:29, 11 August 2026 (UTC)
The creator of the article has indeed been notified on their talk page. Johannes Klarnus-Pettersen (talk) 23:46, 11 August 2026 (UTC)
Support. I support this change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocelius (talk • contribs) 00:39, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
Comment - would there maybe be Ethiopian/Somali sources to meet WP:NEVENT instead of GNG? Else we can just add verifiable info to Fifth Expedition (Somaliland) or Somaliland Campaign and delete per nom (very cogent btw :) - Asdfjrjjj (talk) 09:27, 12 August 2026 (UTC)

Maqora


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I don't think that this place, whatever it is - a khat farm according to the second source, a military camp according to the third source - is covered by WP:GEOLAND: the previously-unsourced sentence that formed the article said "Maqaora is a town located 6 kilometres (3.7 mi) away from the city of Harar in eastern Ethiopia" and none of the sources support that. I am a bit dubious about the different spellings equating to the same place, but as I don't know anything about Amharic and how it is romanised, I can't suggest an alternative. For what it's worth, OpenStreetmap has it as Meqora'e Amharic: መቆራእ. No sources with significant coverage to support WP:GNG but I have not been able to search sources in Amharic. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 05:31, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

  • Note: this discussion has been included in the list of Ethiopia-related AfD discussions. SunloungerFrog (talk) 05:31, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
  • Courtesy ping @Chaotic Enby: who de-prodded to add the current sources. SunloungerFrog (talk) 05:33, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
  • Thanks for bringing this to AfD. I only removed the WP:PROD as it was focused on the existence of the place, but agreed that the sourcing (only consisting of passing mentions) wasn't sufficient for GNG (courtesy link).
    The main language in that region is Oromo, with Harari having been spoken historically. The ejective /k'/ is often romanized ⟨q⟩ in Oromo, which would explain the varying spellings. Really, my main hope here is that the shorthand in Local history of Ethiopia might refer to sources discussing it more in detail, but the work is only available piecemeal and I haven't been able to find a key yet. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 06:02, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
    Nevermind, the codes can be found here. JDJ35 refers to its position in the British War Office maps, Gz to the Gazetteer of Ethiopia, and q only notes the existence of a spelling variant. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 06:05, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
    The Gazetteer itself has an entry for Mek'ora here, as well as "Mek'ora Bota" (literally "Mek'ora Locality"), respectively labeled as PPL (populated place) and LCTY (locality), cf. the key. So, Mek'ora did exist as some kind of populated place, at least historically. Annoyingly, this doesn't tell us anything about whether there was once a recognition for such a place (or for places below the kebele level in general), and we'd need someone more familiar with Ethiopian history to tell. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 06:21, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) I think the key is here. It seems that JDJ35 refers to a 10km x 10km square on a British War Office map in which the place is located, and [Gz q] means that the other information is taken from the US Defense Mapping Agency's Gazetteer of Ethiopia, with spellings enriched with the k/q equivalence that you note above. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 06:23, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
    Just to note that my doubt about the spelling was also (and probably more) about Ma- vs. Me- than k vs. q. I don't think any of the current sourcing makes that equivalence. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 06:36, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
  • Information Info - Note on soft closure: While this discussion appears to have no quorum, it is NOT eligible for soft deletion because it has been previously PROD'd (via summary).
--Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 13 August 2026 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:00, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

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