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Gabb Skribikin

Gabb Skribikin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Redirect to MNL48 or Pinoy Big Brother: Kumunity Season 10. Most of the sources are either by ABS-CBN, the parent company of this person's stated agency Star Magic, or from YouTube/Twitter. The only really independent articles here mention her in the context of the reality programme Pinoy Big Brother. The Manila Times article used is a clear press release with no byline. I thought this piece I found on Google News might be usable but there's a near-identical one published by ABS-CBN News, so yeah, it truly seems this person has no individual notability outside of press releases/promotional content by her agency. Handsome Ellis (talk) 20:31, 4 July 2026 (UTC)

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Juana Carreon

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Longevity claimant with only source as BillionGraves. Fails WP:GNG EaglesFan37 (talk) 14:29, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

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• Delete Could not find any reliable sources (aside from other obituary sites) outside of Wikipedia, probably fails WP:NEXIST. ⇖ /.°°.\ ⇗ ^{(They/Them/Their)} 14:52, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
• delete no reliable sources found in GNews and GNews Archives --Lenticel ^(talk) 18:39, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
• delete As per nominator. Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV Padreburgos2020 (talk) 18:45, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
• Delete only source is an obituary. Even other Filipino (unverified) longevity claims had better sourcing. Its hard to believe that Carreon who is supposedly 116 years old at the time of death and claims to be older than Elizabeth Bolden only has one reference. You get better coverage for other Filipino 110+ years old supercentenarians such as Francisca Susano and Genoveva Garcia than this person.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 01:09, 1 July 2026 (UTC)

2026 AVC Women's Volleyball Cup Pool A

2026 AVC Women's Volleyball Cup Pool A (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I propose redirecting to 2026 AVC Women's Volleyball Cup because this page (alongside the Pool B page) represents a clear case of WP:CONTENTFORK. Furthermore, these standalone pages fails WP:SPORTSEVENT and WP:SIGCOV to satisfy WP:GNG. An earlier attempt to redirect these pages to the main article was reverted by the creator and without a policy-based justification. Bringing this to the community to establish standard consensus and enforce WP:CONLEVEL. ꕥ 𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑 ꕥ ^{→𝙼𝚎𝚜𝚜𝚊𝚐𝚎 𝚖𝚎←} 00:05, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

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• I am also nominating the following related articles:

2026 AVC Women's Volleyball Cup Pool B (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) ꕥ 𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑 ꕥ ^{→𝙼𝚎𝚜𝚜𝚊𝚐𝚎 𝚖𝚎←} 00:22, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

A big tournament deserves detail and great way to add detail is to do proper volleyball boxes for the games. Just to clarify, I have tried to talk with D.18th but he has never replied in a proper way and only throws wiki links so it is a struggle in the volleyball world to do anything creative that will help the pages. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 09:14, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

If people are interested, I could just add the volleyball boxes to the main pages. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 09:16, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

Keep I have added more independent references on both pages that should prove that they are notable enough to have standalone pages. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 20:25, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

2028 Philippine vice presidential election

2028 Philippine vice presidential election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Aside from the lack of a wide consensus (1 user and 1 opinion quashed due to it being generated by an LLM), the articles will inevitably WP:OVERLAP. As the vice president is constitutionally fated to be a spare tire to the president, coverage on vice presidential candidates inevitably, and as suggested by history, echo whatever their presidential counterparts say or do. We can already see this overlap brewing with the background and electoral system sections of the split-off article, which indicates that we would be better off having a consolidated article on the presidential and vice presidential elections as done in the past. TofuMuncher (talk) 02:58, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

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While they are referred to as "running mates", presidential and vice presidential candidates are voted separately; these are separate ballot questions. There's no "WP:OVERLAP". These are separate offices. The newly-elected president and vice president can be from different parties, and this is not a design flaw. You won't argue "senatorial candidates echo their presidential candidates positions, so let's merge senatorial elections to presidential ones". For elections on separate bodies/offices, we have separate articles for the House, Senate and president, but not the vice president. Ultimately, this should be judged if this passes WP:NEVENT, not on some argument that is demonstrably false.

This was first suggested at Talk:2028 Philippine presidential election#Create a separate article for the 2028 Philippine vice presidential election, then was discussed further at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics/Philippine politics#A discussion about Vice Presidential elections. FWIW, there were several consequential vice presidential elections in history, of which the most recent that comes into mind was 2016 that, some may argue, is still not resolved up to now, while everyone has moved on who won for president.

WP:OSE, but we have Category:Vice presidential elections. Category:Vice-presidential elections in India all have articles, and that's an even more inconsequential office than the vice president of the Philippines, and is not even directly elected. Howard the Duck (talk) 09:45, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Denying the existence of an overlap solely over the electoral setup of the presidency and vice presidency would not only be a strawman (provided the rationale above), but it would also disregard the practical consequences of said setup. Sure, they are separate offices, however, they coexist in the same branch of government with a dynamic that renders these positions fundamentally inseparable due to the vice president’s constitutional role practically being a presidential replacement.

Comparing the vice presidency to the other offices mentioned here would be tantamount to comparing apples and oranges. Senatoriables have the choice to affiliate with as many or none of the presidential candidates (not notwithstanding the practical consequences of doing so) and contests for the House tend to be so localized that the presidential race has little to negligible influence on such races. Not only that, but they are also in another branch of government with a dynamic structurally independent of that of the president. That is, they have the prerogative to make their own decisions and elect their own leaders in a way that affects how those campaigns unfold.

The same cannot be said for the vice presidency. In an electoral context, the office fundamentally holds no consequential influence other than being a duplicate for their respective presidentiable, shadowing their every position with even their own election mirroring their presidential counterpart (even if the outcome yields a split-ticket). This is where the content overlap emerges, because you really cannot split the campaign for these two offices given their nature and systems without being repetitive when their candidates are so intertwined. We already saw that attempts so far at doing so (1935 and 1941) have yielded something that would just mirror its presidential counterpart without much independent commentary. Looking at past articles, its unlikely 2028 would be much different and it would be best to consolidate content surrounding the elections for these two offices in the same article. Sure, there have been a number of consequential elections and ’28 could be as one well, but those consequences can, and have been, expressed well in either the “Results” or “Aftermath” sections of such articles, or even the biographical articles of the candidates in question. TofuMuncher (talk) 04:03, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

We've had hybrid campaigns in the past. There were Aquino-Binay and Robredo-Duterte campaigns recently. Granted, this and Senate candidates associating with more than one slate is a recent development, but a development nonetheless.

Separation of powers argument: Poltical scientists have actually argued the president of the Philippines is one of the most powerful executives, comparing to similar offices vs. other branches. The president's party always controls the House of Representatives - no matter the election result (!), and while the Senate is still somewhat independent, if the margin is very small, the president may still find ways to have it's preferred Senate president be seated, which is what happened recently.

It's clear. Separate ballot question. Separate election. Separate articles. No overlap. Howard the Duck (talk) 08:31, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Zeroing into the relationship of the presidency to the vice presidency (which is the entire point of this discussion anyway), it is that dominance that makes candidates for the vice presidency subservient to their presidential counterparts. Yes there may be hybrid campaigns on the presidential and vice presidential levels, but they can easily be discussed in at least a single sentence in an "Campaign" or "Analysis" section, whichever angle is more appropriate considering their contribution to the outcome. After all, these developments are fundamentally reactive in nature, something more effectively discussed vis à vis each other rather than in separate planes. Despite that, behaviors of vice presidential candidates in recent elections point at a clear pattern: they consistently shadow their running mates, making a separate article doomed to be a mirror of the presidential counterpart, as we've already seen.

It doesn't matter if its a separate ballot question when running mates at the presidential and vice presidential level are adamant to take the same road where the overlap rears its head. Splitting them along their lanes would just muddle what would be a clear summary on how such an intertwined outcome came to be. TofuMuncher (talk) 11:18, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

We actually had separate articles on hybrid campaigns in 2010 (Beningo Aquino III and Jejomar Binay 2010 presidential campaign). Running mates may also not campaign together in order to cover more ground (senatorial slates have also not been campaigning together because of this). Duterte in UniTeam was notably not subservient to Marcos and she even managed to bring in Robin Padilla as a senatorial candidate. Robredo/Pangilinan, and Lacson/Sotto were technically of different parties when they ran. You could even argue the Roxas-Robredo campaign was literally two campaigns masquerading as one. The 2016 vice presidential election literally did not end until officially end until 2021. The vice presidential results section is even substantially longer than the presidential one!

Reducing this as a single sentence under "Campaign" section is an absolutely gross disservice to our readers. Vice presidential elections clearly surpass WP:GNG. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:29, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

The strawman strikes again. We are not reducing hybrid campaigns in strictly one sentence, but at least one, something more flexible than what you understood.

Your concerns here are better served in other pages where there are more relevant. Dynamics among presidential tickets (including informal ones) are best discussed in the article of their respective campaign (e.g. your example above); dynamics among presidential/vice presidential campaigns and the senatorial slates are best discussed in the article of that respective slate, and any dispute raised by a candidate can be discussed in an "Aftermath" section or even the biographical article of said candidate. That is, not every granular detail matters to the main article but do in other articles where they would be more relevant. Suggesting otherwise would produce an article that is unclear, unbalanced, and would ultimately drift off-focus.

As for the length in the 2016 vice presidential race, that is a matter of circumstance rather than design. One can even argue that its an outlier given our range of articles. Even so, your claim of a "substantially longer" section appears to be overblown in a cursory assessment of the page.

No one is arguing vice presidential elections do not pass GNG. The fact of the matter is it is better covered as part of a consolidated article with the presidential race, given WP:NOPAGE. No matter the means, tickets are formed to ensure both candidates win. Those relationships remain apparent and undeniable in the context of the election, its prelude, and immediate aftermath and is best explained vis à vis each other in the same plane. What would be a disservice would be to sever a sound summary of these events and dynamics and make it harder for readers to deduce those relationships. We would be fixing something that is not broken and shatter it in the process. TofuMuncher (talk) 13:04, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

The vice presidential results section is even substantially longer than the presidential one is fact. Check it out yourself. To reduce this to, okay, "at least one sentence", while you saying it meets WP:GNG is absolutely mind-bending. You'd reduce Sara Duterte running for vice president after being prodded to run for president to "at least one sentence". You'd reduce Mar Roxas relinquishing the presidential nomination to run for vice president to "at least one sentence". You'd reduce Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and Tito Sotto's supposed tandem in 1998 to "at least one sentence". What, we're merging the Senate election as well because Sotto was abandoned and ran for the Senate instead? You'd reduce Joseph Estrada's vice presidential campaign in 1992 after leading presidential surveys in 1992 to "at least one sentence".

You'd reduce the Robredo vs. Marcos electoral protest case as a paragraph or two in the "Aftermath" section? We literally have an entire article on Pimentel v. Zubiri, yet you are suggesting to cull this to fit into an aftermath section? You serious?

Do you hear yourself out here? Those are just the main vice presidential narratives on post-EDSA elections, other candidates are not mentioned. That's maddening (not in the angry way, BTW). Howard the Duck (talk) 13:43, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

We literally have well researched articles on Philippine special elections. You are arguing a national direct vice presidential election deserves WP:NOPAGE. Really? Oppose deletion or merger. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:46, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Strawman after strawman after strawman. "At least one sentence" (clearly different from "at most one sentence") is not a call for a full-blown reduction but just a reflection on how there is space for these topics in the article of the presidential election, provided that they are consequential to the outcome and its implications and not too granular to be way out of WP:PROPORTION when added to the article. I would like to reiterate that I am arguing for the pre-2028 status quo, not a change in anything else, as again, the matter here is the merits of having a page on the 2028 Philippine vice presidential election, which I am contesting for the reasons I explained above. Whatever you said in your last four replies came from you, not me. TofuMuncher (talk) 14:07, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

2022 Philippine presidential election, which covers both elections is already very long enough. We have separate articles for presidential campaigns but you object to separate article on the vice presidential election?

Strawman? I did not say "full-blown reduction"; you're the one who said that. You originally said "but at least one, something more flexible than what you understood" (emphasis mine), which you then later modify to "at most one sentence" (again, emphasis mine).

Which is it? We cannot even summarize the vice presidential election in 2 paragraphs (LOL) much less "at least a single sentence". If anything, I could ask for a WP:SPLIT on the 2022, 2016 and 2010 articles. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:23, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Merge per nominator's rationale. FaviFake (talk) 15:29, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Merge per given rationale. I don't really see the need to create a separate VP article when it can arguably be covered by the presidential election. Kud0s.exe (talk) 08:49, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Oppose as noted by HTD about the circumstances of the Philippine political setup. The two campaigns cannot be oversimplified just because the president/vice president typically run under a single slate.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 03:18, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Oppose the election of the Vice President is separate, and it appears to be 50/50 on candidates being elected from the same ticket. While past elections have only had one article for both, it remains entirely possible that both articles will grow to appropriate size without an intolerable level of overlap. FiredudeT (talk) 09:04, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Merge per the nominator’s rationale. Fierysea13 (talk) 10:22, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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