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'Chassis-Engine' convention

Within infoboxes, entry lists, and results, we presently hyphenate constructor names e.g. "Red Bull Racing-Honda RBPT". MOS:ENBETWEEN is clear we should be using en dashes (–) to separate independent proper nouns. Irrespective of this, constructors with chassis/engine names composed of multiple words should always be separated by en dashes, per MOS:PREFIXDASH and MOS:SUFFIXDASH. The example above reads as Red Bull ... Racing-Honda ... RBPT, not to mention the classic "Ligier-Mugen-Honda". Sat on this for a while as we had a few discussions going at once. This was previously discussed with no consensus in March 2011; I imagine this part of the MOS has been further clarified since. MB2437 23:56, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

  • Is there a workable solution? Do you have a macro to automate this? Namelessposter (talk) 01:20, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
    Not presently, although it cannot be too hard to run a search-and-replace on the instances of each constructor being mentioned. If not, just change our approach going forward and make changes when noted. MB2437 02:20, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
    I can run a WP:AWB that should tackle it all. SSSB (talk) 08:20, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
  • Are you sure you are right about this? I’m not convinced that the two parts are actually full separate components here. The constructor name is one sole thing here. And there have been cases in the past were a constructor used more than one engine manufacturer during the season and and as such were classified seperately and thus the engine part in the name acted as a modifier. Tvx1 12:17, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
    Yes, it is compounding two separate elements. The chassis name would be the modifier in that format. If it were two compounded names to a chassis/engine, such as Mugen-Honda, then I believe it would be hyphenated. MB2437 12:48, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
    How is it compounding two separate elements? It isn’t just because you say so. Constructor names are one entity. And in case like when Brabham-Honda and Brabham-Ford happened in one same season, the engine part is quite certainly the modifier. Tvx1 15:05, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
    I would hardly say McLaren and Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains are one entity. MB2437 16:05, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
    They are two separate companies, sure. But Tvx1 raises an interesting point: are they legally considered as one entity vis-a-vis their entry into the World Championship? SSSB (talk) 08:45, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
    They are definitely one entity as a constructor. Hence why there have been examples in the fast of more than one constructor with the same chassis manufacturer, buth different engine supplier, having been classified in the same championship. Tvx1 13:29, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
    The F1 regulations are ambiguous on this point: they say “if the F1 Team fits a Power Unit that it does not manufacture, the F1 Car name must be the combination of the F1 Team’s name and the Power Unit Manufacturer’s name, subject to any changes made for branding purposes, with the former always preceding the latter.” This could cut both ways—is the unit in question the “F1 Car” or the combination of the “F1 Team” and the “Power Unit Manufacturer”? “Subject to any changes made for branding purposes” sounds like a rule to permit “RBR-Tag Heuer” but Tag Heuer is also a separate entity. In any event I don’t want to overthink this. Namelessposter (talk) 14:00, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
    Of the examples listed in the MOS, I'd say Wilkes-Barre, a single city named after two people, but Minneapolis–Saint Paul, an area encompassing two cities covers it. Minneapolis–Saint Paul is a single legal entity with two independent constituents (such as a chassis and engine), where Wilkes-Barre is simply a single entity with no components (Wilkes and Barre are not part of the city). MB2437 14:13, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Survey

Putting this up to a survey.

  • Option A Use en dashes in all constructor names per MOS:ENBETWEEN i.e. McLaren–Mercedes, not McLaren-Mercedes.
  • Option B Only use en dashes for constructor names with multiple words either side per MOS:PREFIXDASH and MOS:SUFFIXDASH i.e. Ligier–Mugen-Honda, not Ligier-Mugen-Honda; Red Bull Racing–Honda, not Red Bull Racing-Honda.
  • Option C No change.

MB2437 04:50, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

  • Option C, then Option B – I'm inclined to agree with SSSB and Tvx1 that a constructor's name (composite or not) refers to a single entity (an entry in the championship). So although a constructor's entry may involve two separate entities cooperating, we are almost always discussing the constructor as an entry, in which case there is only one entity to consider. 5225C (talk  contributions) 05:45, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

Table of F1 driver page protections

During the most recent spate of vandalism on Nicholas Latifi, I collected a list of F1 driver page protections to identify precedents in case I needed to bring it to WP:RFPP down the road. I expanded the list into a table in one of my sandboxes, but I'm happy to relocate it somewhere more stable if anyone prefers. The link is at User:Namelessposter/sandbox4 and I'd appreciate any advice or comments.

A few notes:

  • To be honest, it seems that only current WDCs, "big four" drivers, Latifi, and Stroll actually need long-term protection.
  • Perhaps unsurprisingly, Hamilton, Verstappen, Alonso, and (why?) Piastri all have indefinite protections.
  • Russell and Latifi are at 3 years.
  • Leclerc's 1-year protection expires this August. At which point it will probably get extended to 3 years within a month.
  • No protection for Antonelli or Hadjar. Any bets on how long that lasts?

Namelessposter (talk) 20:00, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

Australian Grand Prix page check please

Hi, I'm new to the vocabulary and names in the area. I started this page and GalacticVelocity08 expanded it (and pointed me to this talk page). I would appreciate if you could expand it in next 1-2 days:

Possibly CC Island92 and DH85868993 as edited some page here about related topic.

Many thanks.

Regards, Gryllida 03:09, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Season Page Results and Standings 1950-1990

Should probably establish some convention over the presentation of drop rounds in the results tables. The points system section in almost all seasons that use drop rounds states "Numbers without parentheses are championship points; numbers in parentheses are total points scored.", however a significant amount of articles had mouse-overs telling the total points. Mouse-overs are useful for providing context for tables, but the importance of drop rounds in the first 40 years of Formula 1 should really be demonstrated, especially when they have decided the results of a championship more than once. In many cases, the tables themselves had a footnote making the same statement while not actually showing total points in parentheses. I've gone through and made changes to all the Season pages through the 1980s, but I feel a convention should be established so that the information can be clearly conveyed.

Additionally, I've noticed a lot of older seasons use Template:F1 driver results legend 4 when most modern seasons, including the current season, use Template:F1 driver results legend 6. The WikiProject page points to the former in its templates section, but most use the latter now.

Many thanks, Monocles (talk) 17:47, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

COI edit request relevant to this project: Adam Parr

Just notifying members of this project that there is a Conflict of Interest edit request relevant to this WikiProject at the Adam Parr article. DrThneed (talk) 23:06, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Williams FW48#Requested move 19 March 2026

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Williams FW48#Requested move 19 March 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. SSSB (talk) 14:33, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

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