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Branisella
This extinct genus is included in Category:New World monkeys as "†Branisella", which means that it gets indexed in the category under "†". This seems odd to me, and I was going to change it, but it occurred to me that this might be intentional, so I thought this would be a good place to ask. I observe that Noropithecus is not indexed that way in Category:Old World monkeys
User conflict - help?
Hello, I recently started editing pages related to the historic Great ape language research, which are a bit of a mess, and have encountered a user who keeps making over-reaching claims and cutting swaths of material he doesn't agree with. For example, a page on Washoe chimpanzee mentions the Clever Hans conference, which was the subject of heated debate at the time. This user cut simply excised the criticisms of the conference. I undid the cut (and ultimately the page COULD use rewriting) but he reinstated.
I'm relatively low-drama and have never run in this problem before. Tips from a more seasoned editor? Monkeywire (talk) 14:16, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- The claims aren't overreaching, though. There is zero acceptance of these experiments demonstrating language ability by relevant experts, and WP:NPOV and WP:ADVOCACY mean we don't need to give the objections of the research groups to overwhelming consensus much space, if any. Just because the authors disagree, doesn't mean that those disagreements are worth paying attention to. As they're making a linguistic claim, we must consider a: the uniform response of subject matter experts and b: the fact that the authors of these language experiments typically are not subject matter experts in linguistics (see: WP:PARITY).
- It's possible the inclusion of the clever hans conference is warranted, I certainly don't own the article and won't object if you want to work it in, but I absolutely would object to reinstating the objections of the research team as WP:ADVOCACY unless there's evidence that their objections are taken seriously. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 16:39, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Pygmy slow loris
In 2023, the pygmy slow loris was split into two species (Xanthonycticebus pygmaeus and Xanthonycticebus intermedius). The changes have been accepted by ASM and other sources (e.g. ). The IUCN Red List does not recognize the species X. intermedius and the genus Xanthonycticebus since the last review was in 2021, before the recent taxonomic changes. The Pygmy slow loris article still describes the species X. pygmaeus and mentions X. intermedius as its synonym, but already in the third sentence it says that two species are recognized. Perhaps the Pygmy slow loris article should be made into a genus article, with the possibility of creating two new articles for the northern and southern species. Even if we keep information about both species in one article, the text of the article is currently problematic because it contradicts itself. Sittaco (talk) 07:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Ham (chimpanzee)#"Ham the Space Monkey", 1961 song, removed from 'In popular culture'
Self-explanatory, needs a reference for a very early example of space exploration music and an honoring of a primate space pioneer (although I wouldn't recommend that the song be played on a loop, or even once). Randy Kryn (talk) 10:20, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
Infinite monkey theorem
In this edit, someone marked infinite monkey theorem as an article of interest to the Primates wikiproject. I think this is almost certainly an error, because the topic has almost nothing to do with primates. But my view is that WikiProjects are entitled to decide what is of interest to them, so it should probably be someone from this WikiProject to undo the edit. --Trovatore (talk) 20:13, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
Requesting third opinion on discussion of short descriptions for notable individual animals
I'd like to hear anyone's thoughts here on short descriptions for notable individual animals, particularly whether the redundancy of including their species in the short description is acceptable, and secondarily if it is more appropriate to refer to a primate that is not a pet as a "pet".
I've started a discussion at the following talk page: Talk:Bubbles (chimpanzee)#short description due to my edit being disputed; the edit was changing the short description of Bubbles (chimpanzee) from "Pet once owned by Michael Jackson" to "Chimpanzee once owned by Michael Jackson" as this is more accurate as well as consistent with the guidance and other comparable articles. MossOnALogTalk 20:10, 28 January 2026 (UTC)