Talk:Absolute space and time

As outlined in ^[1], the philosophical and physical concepts of absolute space are different, indeed, in ^[2] it is noted that in the philosophical sense, modern physics subscribes to absolute space, even if it is relational in the scientific sense. Might it be better to split this article into two?

Deep-brown (talk) 19:41, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

The opening section contains these statements: "Unlike relative time, Newton believed absolute time was imperceptible and could only be understood mathematically. According to Newton, humans are only capable of perceiving absolute time, which is a measurement of perceivable objects in motion (like the moon or sun)."

So...absolute time is imperceptible, AND humans are only capable of perceiving absolute time...??? Maybe a scientist can explain this better, because it doesn't make sense to me. Xaxafrad (talk) 08:31, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

The section on Einstein's later views does not introduce the aether topic sufficiently, nor explain why this is significant to the topic. A reader may wonder what the aether (ether) is and why it pertains to this topic. The quotes are excessively lengthy and are not introduced, which effect is exaggerated since the preamble lacks detail. How were Einstein's (changing) views on aether important in the development of the ideas of absolute time and space? I would remove this section until a suitable alternative is written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.217.122.179 (talk) 20:35, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

@DVdm: I think we perhaps disagree about whether Luminiferous aether is a suitable link for Einstein's concept, but I'm willing to grant that it properly refers to the concept which Einstein replaced.  —jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:29, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Of course not for Einstein's "own" concept, but in the section context, it's all we have indeed. - DVdm (talk) 18:35, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

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The last section states "There appears to be absolute space in relation to the distant stars", which of course is self-contradictory. Motion in relation to the distant stars is by definition relative motion, not anything absolute. 1.75.6.11 (talk) 21:38, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

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