Talk:Apollo 17

Footnotes 16 & 17, same url.--Jarodalien (talk) 16:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, all the press releases for 1971 are the same URL.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Chapter "Lunar landing": "Approximately ten later, the LM pitched over", minutes?--Jarodalien (talk) 13:13, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Wehwalt:, How is what I wrote not fully sourced? I got it from nasa.gov and cited my source. Do I need to cite the source after every sentence?

Specifically, my sentences and where I got that information:

• Following their mission, the crew underwent a domestic and international tour. The article says "Apollo 17 astronauts Cernan, Evans, and Schmitt began their 11-week United States tour with an appearance at the Jan. 14, 1973, Super Bowl VII football game in the Los Angeles Coliseum."

• The crew visited 53 cities in 29 states over 11 weeks... "Following their highly successful mission, the last Apollo Moon landing flight, Apollo 17 astronauts Eugene A. Cernan, Ronald E. Evans ,and Harrison H. “Jack” Schmitt, the first trained geologist to explore the Moon, embarked on a highly ambitious domestic and international tour. In the United States, they visited 53 cities in 29 states in 11 weeks."

• ...starting with reciting the Pledge of Allegiance at Super Bowl VII. "Apollo 17 astronauts Cernan, Evans, and Schmitt began their 11-week United States tour with an appearance at the Jan. 14, 1973, Super Bowl VII football game in the Los Angeles Coliseum. During the pregame show, the Apollo 17 Command Module (CM) America made its first public appearance since splashdown as it entered the stadium on a flatbed truck. Cernan, Evans, and Schmitt followed the spacecraft into the stadium in a convertible, wearing red, white, and blue blazers, respectively. After the playing of the national anthem, they led the crowd in reciting the Pledge of Allegiance."

• Internationally, the crew visited 11 countries in Africa, Asia, and the Pacific over a couple months. "The month-long Presidential goodwill tour in the spirit of Apollo took them to 11 countries in Africa, Asia, and the Pacific."

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/50-years-ago-apollo-17-post-mission-activities/ Esb5415 (talk) 14:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

All that is with regards to your revert on these edits:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Apollo_17&oldid=1147080698
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Apollo_17&oldid=1147080811

Esb5415 (talk) 14:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

We have not generally covered such things in the mission articles. These were par for the course after every Apollo mission, excepting possibly Apollo 9. In fact, Apollo 17's was probably the least extensive of any of them. It does not seem to me that we need the information in this article.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:14, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

First, please say that rather than saying my contributions were not fully sourced.

I don't really understand your arguments against inclusion. Just because other articles do/don't do things, doesn't mean this article cant. WP:OTHERCONTENT

Is there a consensus you can point me to about excluding post-mission activities? Esb5415 (talk) 15:43, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

It's your job to build consensus for additions. And you did add unsourced material since you ended a paragraph without a citation. Wehwalt (talk) 17:51, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm trying to build a consensus with you! I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a previous discussion.

Per WP:CON, it appears the compromise on my edit is to cite the (same) source after every sentence, rather than just the first one? Since that was the reason for the revert in the first place.

However, you aren't that big of a fan of the information I want to add anyway. So before I go ahead and add it with your suggestion, can you explain some more why you think that information shouldn't be in the article? I feel this information should be in the article (as well as the same information in other Apollo articles) because it is important to talk about the post-mission activities, just as articles talk about pre-mission activities. It is factual, verifiable, encyclopedic information. In my view, leaving it out violates WP:NPOV because we are introducing bias into the article, saying post-mission information is just not as important.

Esb5415 (talk) 19:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

It's considered sufficient if you cite at the end of a paragraph. I think I've had my say for now. Maybe if you condensed it to one to two sentences, we could find a compromise? Wehwalt (talk) 19:36, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

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change " was the final mission of NASA's Apollo program," to " was the final lunar mission of NASA's Apollo program,"

as there were additional missions that were part of the "Apollo Program" such as Apollo-Soyuz that came after Apollo 17. Wilnerboy (talk) 23:57, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Not done Neither Skylab nor Apollo-Soyuz were part of the Apollo program, though they did use leftover Apollo equipment.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:12, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Unless this is covered in another article (in which case, which one?), I suggest an "In popular culture" section, or maybe a paragraph in the Aftermath secion, to cover the fact that several films and TV shows featured characters who were said to either be the "last man to walk on the moon" or one of the last men to do so. Three examples that come immediately to mind is Col. Steve Austin of The Six Million Dollar Man (I believe he is described as such in one of Martin Caidin's Cyborg novels upon which the series was based), the character played by Robert Duvall in the 1998 film Deep Impact, and I believe the character of Jack Crichton Sr. in the TV series Farscape (father of the show's lead character, John Crichton Jr.) is also described as such. I know there have been several others. 136.159.160.121 (talk) 16:09, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Those things are trivial and have nothing to do with the actual mission.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Why do we not have any information on the strange objects gene speaks of on daft punks song contact infact the internet claims no objects were seen at all. 2001:56B:3FE2:76A0:5CED:B85A:8086:C24F (talk) 02:39, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

Can you point me to high quality reliable sources that discuss the matter? Reputable books or journal articles? Wehwalt (talk) 05:27, 10 October 2025 (UTC)