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Undefeated streak

I propose removing the undefeated streak list from this article as violations of the following Wikipedia guidelines: Wikipedia:Too much detail, Wikipedia:Fancruft, and Wikipedia:Article size. This list is excessive detail that would only be of interest to a small number of people. I'm not saying his streak itself isn't notable, but a list of 155 matches (most of which are house shows or non-title/non-stipulation matches) is a bit much. Mention the streak and important matches in the text. Thoughts? Nikki311 03:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Agree, 155 matches overtakes the article. If it were independently notable I'd recommend splitting off, like The Streak (wrestling), but I don't think it's at that level. Best to just discard it.LM2000 (talk) 07:01, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
I agree with the removal, Goldberg's streak had a two-year period, and most of the wrestlers that he defeated were mostly jobbers or from the undercard. Nickag989talk 12:36, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Agree, too much detail. McPhail (talk) 21:00, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete also assumes original research as to how the matches were counted. The WCW reference does not match any matches to numbers, and the current table results in a record of 155 wins instead of 173. There's an attempt to construct the streak on genius.com and there are debates over counting wins at random forums. The exercise is kind of like estimating power levels in Dragon Ball Z, only some matches have a number of victories in the streak attached to it and the rest are interpolated or extrapolated. This could be added as an external link though if there is a reliable source documenting his matches, but this is generally fun stuff to debate over at a wikia and not Wikipedia. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:04, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
I would agrue that even if there were not original research concerns the list would still be too excessive even if it could be properly sourced. Some of the more significant wins during the streak (ie defeating Hogan for the title) can be mentioned in prose though.--67.68.21.146 (talk) 03:51, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
disagree. I think it is an antisemitic spear to be taking this away from da brotha 2601:14D:8B00:6000:50E7:842C:7284:450E (talk) 01:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
smear* but spear works given da subject lol 2601:14D:8B00:6000:50E7:842C:7284:450E (talk) 01:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

I think we can make his own section, his Streak is relevant. However, don't to list every singles match he had. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:28, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

The biography section already covers the streak and the most notable matches for it, as well as analysis on whether it was an actual streak by number of matches counted. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:24, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. It has been a week. That section has been deleted. Nikki311 18:09, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

The win streak was researched primarily on Graham Hawthorne's History of WWE site, which has a comprehensive listing of match results for WWE, WCW, ECW, ect by year. He's also written several books detailing promotional histories. Most of the wins came from there, the rest were researched from various other sites. The attempt was to put together a definitive, sourced list of The Streak and to attempt to answer firmly just exactly what the streak was, versus what was reported on air. The results did not come from forums. As for it taking over the page - that's why I made the list collapsible. Marino73 (talk) 13:14, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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