Talk:Neurocognitive disorder
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 | On 12 April 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from Cognitive disorder to Neurocognitive disorder. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Evaluation for intro to abnormal
This article is very short. There are references, but not a lot of information is being presented. Topics that could be addressed are: how the cognitive perspective would assess a person's mental health and how the cognitive perspective views treatment for psychological disorders. How many psychologists/therapists would describe themselves as using the cognitive perspective is another topic. Dandres19 (talk) 01:07, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Misplaced section "Cognitive mental disorder perspective" should be in a different article
The section "Cognitive mental disorder perspective" should be on the cognitive behavioral psychology page, as that is what it is discussing. A "Cognitive disorder" is something separate from cognitive theory, it is more a medical term. A cognitive disorder is defined a physiological problem which impairs cognitive function, not a problem with irrational thinking as this section implies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ederda (talk • contribs) at 01:12, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Merge proposal December 20, 2019
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
I propose that Organic brain syndrome be merged into this article. From looking at parts of the article including the sections names and the contents, cognitive disorder just seems to be the newer term for organic brain syndrome, this is also confirmed by a Google search. The articles are cover a lot of the same content.– BrandonXLF (talk) 07:29, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose merge on the grounds that while these sets overlap, they are not the same. organic brain syndromes don't necessarily affect cognition; for example, many forms of stroke produce an aphasia and motor problems, but without problems of cognition. Conversely, cognitive disorders certainly need not be Organic brain syndromes, as traditionally defined; for example, the thought disorder of schizophrenia. Klbrain (talk) 17:15, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. These concepts are clearly different. Also, unlike cognitive disorder, organic brain syndrome is an obsolete psychiatric term, no longer in common use. It played in important role in the DSM-II, in which it was a broad concept encompassing dementia, intracranial infections (e.g. neurosyphilis), various other cerebral dysfunctions (e.g. mental problems due to arteriosclerosis), and disorders due to substance abuse (e.g. alcoholic hallucinosis and Wernicke–Korsakoff syndrome). In the DSM-III, the group was renamed "Organic Mental Disorders". In the DSM-IV, the concept was abandoned entirely. I hope that the Organic brain syndrome article will someday be completely revamped, and re-written from a historical perspective, since the term is an important part of psychiatric history. Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 11:53, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- Also, maybe this article should be renamed Neurocognitive disorder, as this is the term which the DSM-5 prefers. Both are fine though. - Manifestation (talk) 11:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
broken citations
I don't know what happened or when it happened, but at some point in this article's history it appears that the in-line citations have gotten removed and... replaced by plain text version of the numbers? And the reference section (of which there are two) has clickable links in their citations that lead nowhere. Is there a way to easily fix this? Megaman en m (talk) 19:43, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Cognitive mental disorder perspective section
This section was present in the original version of the article (an article that referred to cognitive aspects of all mental disorders). The description in this section discusses categories and theories of psychotherapy. The article has changed drastically since the original and is now labeled "cognitive disorders". These terms have a very specific and narrow meaning in medicine (psychiatry, neurology) and psychology. This section no longer makes sense within this article. The categories described do not provide separate theories of "cognitive disorders" or "neurocognitive disorders", the class of disorders that was formerly referred to as delirium and dementia. Again, these terms have an accepted and specific definition in the scientific fields in which they are used, medicine (psychiatry, neurology) and psychology. If the article deviates from the commonly accepted meanings, this should be adequately explained within the article.
inclusion of ADHD and schizophrenia
Again, this article originally seemed to refer to cognitive aspects of all mental disorders. This is no longer the case. "Cognitive disorders" or "neurocognitive disorders" are the class of disorders that was formerly referred to as delirium and dementia. These terms have a accepted and specific definitions in the scientific fields in which they are used, medicine (psychiatry, neurology) and psychology. Any deviation from the commonly accepted meaning (to include disorders not categorized within the medical field or psychology as "cognitive disorders" or "neurocognitive disorders") should be explained.
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Workplan
I think some areas of improvement can be to emphasize the current DSM-V nomenclature and refrain from using outdated DSM-IV nomenclature. Other areas of improvement could be to further discuss common causes and symptoms of delirium, particularly in the hospital setting. Perhaps another area that could be added is a chronic and acute neurocognitive disorder sections with discussion of how each can present and the timeline of presentations. Also, should there be at least some discussion of neurocognitive testing tools such as the MOCA and MMSE? Given the previous posts about the cognitive mental disorder perspective, and the fact that it directly opposes some of the language put forth in the DSKM-5 when pertaining to neurocognitive disorders I am going to delete that section. I do believe it could be useful in it's own page, or a part of a wider psychological theory page. Psychittome (talk) 01:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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Requested move 12 April 2025
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Cremastra talk 14:24, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Cognitive disorder → Neurocognitive disorder – Neurocognitive disorder appears to be the common name, and the article itself uses the term "neurocognitive disorder" more often than it does "cognitive disorder". 2A02:842B:84C0:4C01:396D:9ED0:5503:2183 (talk) 13:37, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support. Neurocognitive disorder is the more modern term. Lova Falk (talk) 14:29, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Article needs update, more recent refs?
Peer review
Hello everyone, I'm Ahmad Mahareeq, and I will be peer-reviewing this article.
This article is really wonderful and full of useful information, but here are some points that would make it better and easier for general people to understand.
Resources:
Great work using all these references and not committing any plagiarism. Good job! Here are some points that I found we can make better:
- I tried accessing resource #1, but it appears that the link should be updated.
- In the last paragraph of the top section, a description of the treatment was written. I checked on resource #9, and I don't think it belongs here since it is talking about dementia, not amnesia. - "Medication and therapies are the most common treatments; however, for some types of disorders such as certain types of amnesia, treatments can suppress the symptoms but there is currently no cure.[9][10]"
- Most of the references are old. I suggest searching for new references to make the article stronger and more trustworthy.
Readability:
I really find some sections difficult to read even though I'm a medical student. I suggest we make some edits to make it easier for general people to understand it, since this is our goal in Wikipedia. We can break down big sentences into smaller and clearer ones. For example, we can convert:
- "Neurocognitive disorders (NCDs), also known as cognitive disorders (CDs), are a category of mental health disorders that primarily affect cognitive abilities including learning, memory, perception, and problem-solving." into: "Neurocognitive disorders (NCDs), also known as cognitive disorders (CDs), are conditions that affect how the brain works. They affect skills like memory, learning, attention, language, problem-solving, and perception."
- "They are defined by deficits in cognitive ability that are acquired (as opposed to developmental), typically represent decline, and may have an underlying brain pathology." into: "They are acquired cognitive impairments that get worse over time. These conditions are often associated with physical changes or damage to the brain."
- And other examples.
Structure:
Everything is fine for the context, but I would recommend that we just remove the last paragraph in the top section, which talks briefly about causes and treatment, since we have whole sections for each of them.
Finally, thanks to the editors for their great effort in improving this article. If you want any help or assistance, I will be more than happy to do so. Dr. Ahmad Mahareeq (talk) 09:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
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