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Use of "Née" for respectfully citing previous name
Has there ever been discussion as to whether using "Née" to refer to the previous birth name (as we do for married women) would be a respectful alternative to trans deadnaming? Especially since sometimes its crucial to know publicly what the previous name was. 203.46.132.214 (talk) 06:14, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Do you mean on Wikipedia, or just more generally in society?
- On Wikipedia, our policy around deadnaming can be found here: MOS:GENDERID. The majority of the time, we don't mention a deadname. Nil🥝Talk 06:18, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Per MOS:NEE, né and née are used specifically to denote surnames changed due to marriage; it would likely cause confusion to use them for other contexts. In biographies of subjects who were WP:NOTABLE by their WP:DEADNAME (for example ,Elliot Page) we introduce their previous name with the word born or formerly. –RoxySaunders 🏳️⚧️ (talk • stalk) 21:31, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
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I didn't know that deadnaming was a transgender thing. Is that the origin of the term? I first heard the term in relation to Muhammad Ali, who changed his name and religion, but not his gender. Some people still referred to him by his birth name due to racism, Islamophobia, or whatever. 2601:644:8581:75B0:4893:3245:85F8:79DD (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- with current meaning it was formed in early 2010s in transgender internet forums and blogs and was popularized in mid/late 2010s. --Zache (talk) 17:56, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- @2601:644:8581:75B0:4893:3245:85F8:79DD I agree with this. I don't this is applies solely to transgender contexts.
- The article would benefit from broader discussion of the term. ~2026-11490-64 (talk) 09:52, 21 February 2026 (UTC)