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I cut this section but put it here for reference. It may have useful material, but there is no call for in MOS:LAYOUT:

Old China

陳久金 (Chen Jiujin); 張敬國 (Zhang Jingguo) (1989). "含山出土玉片圖形試考 (Hanshan chutu yupian taxing shikao)" [A preliminary analysis of the iconography in the jade fragments from the excavation site in Hanshan]. 文物 (Wenwu) [Cultural Relics, Beijing]. 4: 14–17.

殷涤非 (Yin Difei) (May 1978). "西汉汝阴侯墓出土的占盘和天文仪器 (Xi-Han Ruyinhou mu chutu de zhanpan he tianwen yiqi)" [The divination boards and astronomical instrument from the tomb of the Marquis of Ruyin of the Western Han]. 考古 (Kaogu) [Archaeology, Beijing]. 12: 338–343.

嚴敦傑 (Yan Dunjie) (May 1978). "關於西漢初期的式盤和占盤(Guanyu Xi-Han chuqi de shipan he zhanpan)" [On the cosmic boards and divination boards from the early Western Han period]. 考古 (Kaogu) [Archaeology, Beijing]. 12: 334–337.

+684 "武则天挖坟焚尸真相：迷信风水镇压反臣" [The truth about Wu Zetian digging graves and burning corpses]. 星岛环球网, 文史 [Sing Tao Global Network, Culture and History]. Archived from the original on 2009-12-23. Retrieved 2013-12-12.

1280 "丧心病狂中国历史上六宗罕见的辱尸事" [Six rare humiliation incidents in Chinese history]. Archived from the original on 2007-08-17. Retrieved 2013-12-12. rem: 考古(Kaogu)=Archaeology

1622 Hong Feng (2013-12-12). "房山金陵探寻" [Exploring Fangshan Jinling (Beijing’s earliest and largest imperial tomb)]. Archived from the original on 2014-12-05. {{cite web}}: |archive-date= / |archive-url= timestamp mismatch; 2013-12-12 suggested (help)

1627 倪方六(Ni Fangliu ) (October 2009). 中国人盗墓史（挖出正史隐藏的盗墓狂人） [The history of Chinese tomb robbers]. 上海锦绣文章出版社 (Shanghai Jinxiu Articles Publishing House). ISBN 9877545203196. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: invalid prefix (help). The "Ming Sizong robbed Li Zicheng's ancestral grave" section can be read at 凤凰网读书频道. ifeng.com. Archived from the original on 2016-02-03. Retrieved 2013-12-12. the one alive is the 23-feb-2010 capture

1930 "蒋介石挖毛泽东祖坟的玄机" [The mystery of Chiang Kai-shek digging Mao Zedong's ancestor's grave]. 中华命理风水论坛 [Chinese Numerology and Fengshui Forum]. 2010-06-13. Archived from the original on 2010-06-20. #33

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2001 "風水迷信"困擾中國當局" [Feng Shui Superstitions Troubles Chinese Authorities]. BBC News. 9 March 2001. Retrieved 2012-05-14.

2006 Jiang Xun (11 April 2006). "透視：從"巫毒娃娃"到風水迷信" [Focus on China: From Voodoo Dolls to Feng Shui Superstitions] (in Chinese). BBC Chinese service. Retrieved 2012-05-14.

2006 Tao, Shilong. "Tao Shilong, 3 April 2006, The Crooked Evil of 'Feng Shui' Is Corrupting The Minds of Chinese People". Archived from the original on 2008-02-15. Retrieved 2007-09-25.

2010 Moore, Malcolm (2010-12-16). "Hong Kong government spends millions on feng shui". The Daily Telegraph. London.

2013 Levin, Dan (10 May 2013). "China Officials Seek Career Shortcut With Feng Shui". The New York Times.

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2005 Holson, Laura M. (25 April 2005). "The Feng Shui Kingdom". The New York Times.. Centered on Disney

“Pseudoscience”

I am not an adherent of feng shui, but I really have an issue with the repeated allegations that it is “pseudoscience.” In order to maintain proper neutrality and respect for the subject, these mentions should be minimized (especially given that I don’t see a specific allegation that would warrant the label), and it certainly doesn’t belong in the introductory/definition section. Spiritual practices are intrinsically separate from science, and thus they should not be put in a false dichotomy with science. 2600:6C65:623F:B019:8831:D8CE:F73B:FDC9 (talk) 03:15, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Agree. And, putting it a different way, the meaning of pseudoscience includes a claim to be scientific. Feng shui isn't. North8000 (talk) 16:51, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Is Christianity pseudoscience? They also claim well being. How scientific is that. Will you find "pseudoscience" in the Christianity article? Is the only difference that you consult a "Pappe", instead of a fortune teller? --Alien4 (talk) 17:09, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

A paper I am reading on right now seems to hold that Feng Shui has esoteric and exoteric functions. In other words, Feng Shui has had practical functions as a way to resolve conflict, assuage jealousy/envy, and organize rural development while also having a more superstitious and "pseudoscientific" function that developed in order to explain failures in land development and predictions in personal fortune. I think it would be a good idea to consider splitting up definitions of feng shui in this article in order to explain the folk religious aspects from the more "scientific" aspects of Feng Shui. That way we can get a more unbiased view of the practice. --RedHuron (talk) 01:08, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Chiming in to add my agreement with this thread and note that this page nevertheless retains the "pseudoscience" designation after all these years. I don't believe I'm personally competent to revise the page to a more culturally sensitive format than the redditor-snark that the article currently comprises, but I just want to proclaim that in 2025 this page still needs a major revision on this front. "Pseudoscience" is not an appropriate classification for Feng Shui in an encyclopedia entry. Whumbler (talk) 01:36, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

Update: I edited the article for more neutrality on this front. I may return at some point to add academic sources from East-Asian Studies discussing the appropriateness or lack thereof of classifying Feng Shui as non-scientific vs. pseudoscientific vs. religious vs. (purely cultural)? Etc. Whumbler (talk) 08:53, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

I've quickly reviewed the edits by Whumbler and it seems an improvement overall. Thank you, Whumbler. --Hipal (talk) 18:30, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

Glad to hear it!! Thank you. Whumbler (talk) 22:49, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

Questions like this should be decided on the basis of what reliable sources say, not on the basis of what editors believe. It's the rules. --Hob Gadling (talk) 09:48, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

"Bagua" section needs complete rewrite, I think

As it currently is, the Bagua section has confusing syntax, a series of strangely- (on non-) motivated distinctions between kinds of Bagua, and is sequenced in such a way that is isn't clear what a reader is supposed to understand by the end of it. King Crab Kid (talk) 19:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

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