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What part of this do you guys not understand standard Hindi is the official language - it is the formal instruction language and formally recognised. Even the Fiji govt websites show HIndi. Here are all the sources - www.gov.fj, https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1328357.pdf https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0738059306000332 KimRealOfficial (talk) 06:52, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 05:30, 2 July 2025 (UTC)- Note: User:KimRealOfficial was blocked for evading the block on User:Theoneandonlylinguist09.-Gadfium (talk) 09:17, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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The official language is depicted as Fiji Hindi. This should be changed to Hindi https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1328357.pdf - a file from the department of linguistics of the US State Dept of Education Government page 2 & 3 state "Standard Hindi is recognised as the formal language" "Fiji Hindi has no accepted writing system"↵As per this source too - https://www.academia.edu/63366583/Multilingual_Proficiency_in_Fiji_Primary_Schools Hindi is designated as the formal language of Instruction, not Fiji Hindi. "Standard Hindi and Bau Fijian" Another source also backs up this claim - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0738059306000332 where it says children learn Standard Hindi for formal purposes. Formal - education, careers etc. The constitution of 1997 also says English, Fijian and Hindustani as the official languages of Fiji - https://constitutionnet.org/sites/default/files/1997_constitution.pdf. Hindustani refers to Indian Hindi or Standard Hindi. So in conclusion Fiji Hindi which was removed from the education system, has no writing system, the government uses Hindi Other sources to back me up are (a) Fijian government radio programs - https://www.fiji.gov.fj/Media-Centre/Radio-Programs (Hindustani and Itaukei) not Fiji Hindi Lastly, the Fiji constitution recent amendments also show three linguistic options - https://www.laws.gov.fj/Home/information/constitutionoftherepublicoffiji English Fijian Hindi. When Fiji Hindi (a) Is not explicitly declared as the official variant of Hindi (b) Does not have an accepted writing system and according to the eric.ed.gov report - was removed from national exams in favour of standard Hindi (c) Standard Hindi - is used for all formal purposes. It does not make any sense to show 'Fiji Hindi' as the official languages. Other wikipedia-alternative sites also clarify that standard hindi is official NOT Fiji Hindi - https://en.bharatpedia.org/wiki/Fiji Superpower9 (talk) 13:30, 18 July 2025 (UTC) |
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Remedy for 'citation needed
Suggested paragraph (safe wording): Viti Levu is Fiji’s largest island and contains the capital city, Suva. Fiji’s highest peak, Mount Tomanivi, is located on Viti Levu. The island is home to the majority of Fiji’s population. Major towns include Nadi (the location of Fiji’s main international airport) and Lautoka, Fiji’s second-largest city and an important seaport with strong links to the sugar industry.
References:
Encyclopaedia Britannica (n.d.) Viti Levu. Available at: Encyclopaedia Britannica (Accessed: 21 January 2026).
Wikipedia (n.d.) Viti Levu. Available at: Wikipedia (Accessed: 21 January 2026).
Wikipedia (n.d.) Mount Tomanivi. Available at: Wikipedia (Accessed: 21 January 2026).
Wikipedia (n.d.) Nadi International Airport. Available at: Wikipedia (Accessed: 21 January 2026).
If you want a non-Wikipedia source for Nadi Airport specifically, you can cite Fiji Airports’ own page too. PaletteDrift (talk) 12:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
Hindi in the 2013 constitution
To clarify the situation regarding the mention of Hindi or Fiji Hindi as an official language:
- The 1997 constitution, which is frequently cited, has been irrelevant since 2013 because it was superseded by the 2013 constitution.
- The 2013 constitution mentions the word "Hindi" three times:
- Once to say that the constitution itself would be made available in Hindi. (It's clarified elsewhere that the constitution was drafted in English, and that it would be translated into Hindi and iTaukei.)
- Once to say that, if there's a disagreement in interpretation among the versions of the constitution in the three languages, the English one (i.e., the original) will prevail.
- Once to say that Fiji Hindi (which isn't Hindi) will be taught in schools.
- None of these amounts to declaring Hindi an official language.
Largoplazo (talk) 15:12, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- @Largoplazo You are right, the 2013 constitution never does declare (Standard) Hindi nor Fiji Hindi as official languages. That was my false assumption (and bad WP:SYNTH) based on the fact that the document is also available in Standard Hindi, and an extension of the idea that Hindustani was declared to have equal status in the 1997 constitution. The Languages of Fiji page needs adjustment in this regard, which is currently written (prior to me touching the page) under the pretense that because the equal status was not explicitly revoked in the 2013 constitution, it still stands. ~ oklopfer (💬) 15:20, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- Aside from (or in addition to) my other comment: following this interpretation, shouldn't we also remove Fijian (iTaukei) from being listed as an official language as well? ~ oklopfer (💬) 15:24, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- I would imagine so. It seems the situation is that no language is declared official. But, yes, to clarify this for anyone else (because there's been strife over this before): the 2013 constitution is a full constitution, superseding the 1997 one, not a set of amendments to it. Largoplazo (talk) 15:34, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- But might not English, iTaukei, and Hindi all be suitable for inclusion in the
national_languagesparameter of the infobox? But not Fiji Hindi since, as already discussed, it's only a required school subject. On the other hand, when the constitution says just "Hindi", is it understood to mean Fiji Hindi? I tried to copy some text from the Hindi version of the constitution into Google Translator to see whether it could even understand it, but the character set is an odd one and it just pasted as a long string of unknown character symbols. Largoplazo (talk) 15:38, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- But might not English, iTaukei, and Hindi all be suitable for inclusion in the
- I would imagine so. It seems the situation is that no language is declared official. But, yes, to clarify this for anyone else (because there's been strife over this before): the 2013 constitution is a full constitution, superseding the 1997 one, not a set of amendments to it. Largoplazo (talk) 15:34, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
If fiji hindi is vernacular
if Fiji hindi is a spoken language then what script are we using to write Hindi isn't it standard Hindi then?
How is Fiji ganarajya passed off as Fiji Hindi when the script is of standard hindi ~2026-16490-64 (talk) 10:47, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- When it is written, Fiji Hindi uses Devanagari, just like Standard Hindi does, as well as many other languages ~ oklopfer (💬) 12:22, 16 March 2026 (UTC)