Talk:Henry VIII
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
| This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Henry VIII article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the subject of the article. |
Article policies
|
| Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives (index): 1, 2Auto-archiving period: 4 months  |
 | Henry VIII is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
 | This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on January 3, 2005. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
| |||||||||||||||||||||||||
 | This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
 | This  level-4 vital article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
.svg)
 | On 23 June 2020, it was proposed that this article be moved from Henry VIII of England to Henry VIII. The result of the discussion was Moved. |
Wiki Ed
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 11 January 2022 and 6 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Hdgoble (article contribs).
GA Reassessment
Henry VIII
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • • Most recent review
- Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:01, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
There is uncited prose in the article, particularily in the "Succession" and "Style and arms" sections. I think redundant and off-topic text has crept into the article, and I think a copyedit would be useful to tighten up the prose and remove excess text. Particularly, I think the "Execution of Anne Boleyn" section focuses too much on Boleyn and much of this text can be moved to her article, with the section placing more emphasis on Henry's actions. Z1720 (talk) 23:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think I'll be able to fix the uncited issues. Can you identify the other text you think should be trimmed or removed? --Chronicler Frank (talk) 21:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Chronicler Frank: I think a subject matter expert can go through the article and remove extra detail from the article, or try to state ideas more succinctly. Here's some specific places that I think can be trimmed or cut:
- "Wives, mistresses, and children: What is the purpose of this blockquote? I think it can be removed as unencyclopedic and too focused on his personality, instead of what the section is about.
- "Government": Lots of talk about Cromwell and Wolsey, perhaps this would be better in a spun out article about Henry's government.
- The block quote in "Historiography": why does a person writing in the 1950s get a whole paragraph, instead of having their research summarised in the article?
- While I would do this myself, often my ideas of where to trim are met with complaints that I cut too many important details. If others are interested, I am happy to do this work. Z1720 (talk) 23:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm quite inclined to agree on spinning out some government stuff (into what would surely be a quite interesting article in its own right) and using a more concise summary style. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:49, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Chronicler Frank: I think a subject matter expert can go through the article and remove extra detail from the article, or try to state ideas more succinctly. Here's some specific places that I think can be trimmed or cut:
@Chronicler Frank: Are you still interested in working on this article? Z1720 (talk) 13:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Yes, I am still looking for citations. Chronicler Frank (talk) 08:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Chronicler Frank any updates? All Tomorrows No Yesterdays (Ughhh.... What did I do wrong this time?) 13:13, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delist No significant edits to address citation concerns. Z1720 (talk) 01:37, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Where's the informal tone?
This edit added a {{Tone}} tag to the article, without any explanation. It's a long piece, so an indication of which bits the OP considers lacking in encyclopedic formality would be helpful, should someone want to fix them. The guideline suggests: "leave information clarifying what should be done on the talk page". --AntientNestor (talk) 17:11, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- The unwarranted tag has now been removed.--AntientNestor (talk) 13:29, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
Divorces to obtain a male heir
A recent addition to the lede claimed that Henry's six marriages were "in pursuit of a male heir". This is true up to Queen Jane, but surely not subsequently, after Prince Edward was born: Anna was for political reasons, Catherine H for lust, Catherine P for comfort. It needs to be changed back to the previous version (again).--AntientNestor (talk) 11:03, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
- This has now been fixed. Thanks owed to Celia Homeford. --AntientNestor (talk) 13:27, 28 January 2026 (UTC)