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When it is written "Christianity started with Jewish eschatological expectations, and it developed into the worship of Jesus as the result of his earthly ministry in Galilee and Jerusalem, his crucifixion, and the post-resurrection experiences of his followers." It implies that the historical figure Jesus was resurrected when that is only the Christian belief and Jews and science-minded atheists Very much disagree on what happened to Jesus after the Romans crucified him, and Muslims believe that he never died or was resurrected and instead ascended to haven while alive, and so inorder to keep to community guidelines and remain religiously neutral the verbiage in question should be changed to 'post-crucifixion experiences of his followers' Thank you and some time will be given for anyone to object to this correction to keep the article in adherence to community guidelines and not espousing any one religion's beliefs that the physical laws of the universe were broken and a miracle occurred post-crucifixion. I think that the proposed change is both fair and factual to all parties recounting of that time period, and it does not negate in any way the religious stories of Christianity, or any other religion because it remains factual given the presumption of the Christian religious stories that Jesus was resurrected post-crucifixion, and therefor every post-resurrection experience of his followers by definition is also a post-crucifixion experience. Thank you for your time, and please write any objections below, if no objections are received in a reasonably timely manner I will go ahead and make the proposed change, and if at a later date objections arise the article can always be reverted to how it is now and the matter discussed here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2025-37634-94 (talk) 23:47, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

Post-resurrection does not assume there was a resurrection. I.e. some guys pretended to see the resurrected Jesus. That's all that means. tgeorgescu (talk) 00:31, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Should there be a separate article for the splitting of Christianity from Judaism?

I'm surprised it doesn't exist. Has this been considered and rejected before? Would there be opposition to the creation of this article? Zanahary (talk) 08:30, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

I think it is a notable enough theme, and that Wikipedia should have a separate article on it. Thank you, warshy (¥¥) 18:00, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
It is done, and could use help! Zanahary (talk) 06:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 12 February 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky (talk) 00:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Jewish Christian → Jewish Christianity – Jewish Christian is awkward, and is definitely not standard; I'm assuming that won't be controversial. I think Jewish Christianity is preferable as a title to Jewish Christians (note plural) because the scope of this article is the religious movement/phenomenon of Jewish Christianity, not the persons who fall into the category of Jewish Christians. Zanahary (talk) 07:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:39, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Jewish Christians sounds like the right title to me. Srnec (talk) 21:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
    Why do you prefer it to Jewish Christianity? Zanahary (talk) 23:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
    Frankly, I cannot tell from any of the titles discussed that this article is about the ancient phenomenon rather than Messianic Judaism or the Hebrew Christian movement. Srnec (talk) 21:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - While I appreciate the notion of noting the difference between describing an identifiable group of people (early Jewish followers of Jesus Christ and his disciples) from the idea of a "system" ("Christianity" as such), I think that, given how the term "Jewish Christianity" is used without much second thought throughout the article itself and the sources, that "Jewish Christianity" is both the WP:COMMONNAME and simply the expected, encyclopedic title. Garnet Moss (talk) 03:52, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Prefer something like Jewish Christianity (1st to 5th centuries AD) to make it clear. Hyperbolick (talk) 19:56, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
    I worry that that title would imply that there is later incidence of such a "Jewish Christianity" that is continuous with true Jewish Christianity, when in fact they're completely separate phenomena Zanahary (talk) 07:44, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
    A title with dates would seem to indicate more clearly that there is no continuity betwen ancient and modern Jewish Christianity. Srnec (talk) 21:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Note: WikiProject Religion has been notified of this discussion. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:39, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per nomination. SnowFire (talk) 17:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Citations failing verification

When checking a small sample of the citations on this page, there were a surprisingly high number of failed verifications. I have marked some, replaced some, and silently ignored others when I don't have the exact cited edition before me to ensure the citation is really wrong. In any case, I would take all the citations in this article with a grain of salt. Some of the editors in its history must have been careless. Daask (talk) 21:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Jewish Christians

I read in this article in the beginning:

"These Jews believed that Jesus was the prophesied Messiah and they continued their adherence to Jewish law."

It is the better to change the words "these Jews" to "Jews believed in Christ".

2. After the words "Jewish law" it is good to write: (Torah). Vladislav1968 Ukraine (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

To illustrate one of the several issues with your recent edits, you clearly missed the basic concept being referred to (and linked) by "Jewish law" there, i.e. Halakha, not merely the vague and inaccurate "Torah". Remsense 🌈 论 09:23, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

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