Talk:Jonathan Karp

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Request to add image to infobox

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I've uploaded a photograph and submitted at OTRS ticket for File:Jonathan Karp.jpg. Is someone willing to add this image to the infobox on my behalf? @GeoffreyT2000: I am pinging you since you moved the draft into main space. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:28, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

 Done, thank you for your image donation. Altamel (talk) 06:18, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
@Altamel: Thank you for helping so quickly. If you're available, I just submitted another very simple edit request below, which should be quick to review. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:15, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Edit request re: father's occupation

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Hello, I am back with a very simple request, based on a conversation about Mr. Karp about his father’s stated occupation. Currently, the article says, "His parents worked as a schoolteacher and a bank president." I'd like to update the text to say, "His mother worked as a schoolteacher and his father served as chairman and chief executive officer at a bank." per this source Archived 2017-03-08 at the Wayback Machine and this source. Here is markup for the two sources, which can be added as additional inline citations:

  • <ref name="Nadler">{{cite news|last1=Nadler|first1=Paul|title=Weekly Advisor: Has New Jersey Bank Got Its Fair Share in Community's Comeback?|url=https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-21103845.html|accessdate=February 16, 2017|work=[[American Banker]]|publisher=[[SourceMedia]]|date=September 1, 1998|subscription=yes|via=[[HighBeam Research]]}}</ref>
  • <ref name="Thirteen">{{cite web|title=Donald M. Karp, Secretary|url=http://www.thirteen.org/friendsofthirteen/2016/08/11/donald-m-karp-2/|website=Thirteen.org|accessdate=February 16, 2017|date=August 11, 2016}}</ref>

Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:14, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

@GeoffreyT2000: I am looking for an editor to review this very simple edit request. Since you have already looked at this article, I figured I'd start with you before visiting related WikiProjects and asking users for help. Thanks for considering, Inkian Jason (talk) 17:17, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Accepted

Good morning, Inkian Jason. I am going to add this to the article, but reword the citation format for the THIRTEEN source. I find the Tisch WNET Studios a plumb for a citation; (PBS programming) and this parent company is going in the citation along with updated access dates. I did not add the name of the bank but it could be added since it is named in the sources. Thanks and all the best. Fylbecatulous talk 13:57, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
@Fylbecatulous: Thank you very much for your assistance. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:35, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Not a resume

TonyBallioni, I see we are like-minded. I think the list of books he edited needs to go as well. I don't want to say that's strutting around with someone else's feathers (as the Dutch say), but I'm thinking it. Drmies (talk) 01:31, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

  • snip. Drmies (talk) 01:34, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
    • Drmies, I would agree with your edits. I was going through the author's contributions after interacting with them on IRC today, as they appeared to have been given the wrong impression earlier in their career as to what makes a neutral Wikipedia article vs. a directory entry. To be fair, they seem to be the paid editor I've interacted with that is actually closest to getting it right, but I thought that the linking to every op-ed ever written was a bit much. This actually might be up DGG's alley: a publisher who is likely significant enough that we don't want to delete it, but a commissioned article that needs more eyes. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:50, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
The head of a major publishing house, or even the chief editor for one, or for a major imprint of the house, is notable, and there is no difficulty showing it. There are always sources. the role of such people in literature and the book world in general is very significant as gate-keeps, and sometimes as actual creative contributors. But the problem with including a list of works he edited, is that they need to be works he is personally responsible for in some significant way, rather than just those he had overall supervisory control They should also be works where his editing was a major contribution to the eventual work--there are such instances ( I think the most famous is Maxwell Perkins's role with Look Homeward Angel. But this cannot be assumed from mentions and incidental references--there has to be a read source, either literary or academic, and preferably enough information to show general agreement. Looking at the article history, very few of the items have any source at all,and my sampling of the ones that do did not strike me as sufficient evidence. I haven't checked them all, and it would be a good deal of work to do so--for someone of his stature, compiling and judging it might make a good MAS thesis. DGG ( talk ) 02:48, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you DGG for weighing in: I agree with you. There is no doubt that there are things in an editor's article that would be noteworthy, the first and most obvious example I can think of being Christopher Tolkien editing his father's work. There's Ted Hughes editing Sylvia Plath's work and publishing it posthumously. I am not opposed to including such a note for some book or another if sources bear out that the editor had a significant role to play, but we can't have these enumerations, these resumes. I see there are other articles associated with the writer of this article that do that, including Harry Jackson (artist). Drmies (talk) 03:34, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Yes, agreed with both of you. The question here is which works should be included and can be supported by sourcing. Our purpose here is to report a biography, not a CV, so finding a way to implement DGG's suggestion here is what is needed. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:13, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

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