Talk:Moggmentum
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No consensus
Hi, User:AusLondonder! I understand the AfD was closed as 'no consensus', which does not mean redirect. Am I not in the right?Zigzig20s (talk) 01:28, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- User:AusLondonder: Yes, I read your edit summary, and the AfD was not "Delete" or "Redirect", it was "No consensus". So please restore this article, and nominate it for a second AfD.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:10, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply and for starting this discussion. Did you read the closing summary of the AfD? The closer stated "In any case, discussion has died down, and merging the content does not require AfD." It is already covered in overzealous detail at Jacob Rees-Mogg#Rumoured run for leadership. Does that not suffice? AusLondonder (talk) 03:11, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- User:AusLondonder: The closer was yourself! Sorry, this looks like you are trying to delete the article. Please restore it and start a second AfD. That is how it works. You need to reach consensus to delete content. Or, restore it and propose a merge and wait for consensus.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:13, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- No, the closer was not me please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moggmentum. AusLondonder (talk) 03:17, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Fair enough (it's a little late here). But the closer says, "No consensus to keep the article or merge the content to another.". There is no consensus to merge, and I object to the merge without further discussion. Please restore the content and start another AfD or start a merge proposal.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- No, the closer was not me please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moggmentum. AusLondonder (talk) 03:17, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- User:AusLondonder: The closer was yourself! Sorry, this looks like you are trying to delete the article. Please restore it and start a second AfD. That is how it works. You need to reach consensus to delete content. Or, restore it and propose a merge and wait for consensus.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:13, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply and for starting this discussion. Did you read the closing summary of the AfD? The closer stated "In any case, discussion has died down, and merging the content does not require AfD." It is already covered in overzealous detail at Jacob Rees-Mogg#Rumoured run for leadership. Does that not suffice? AusLondonder (talk) 03:11, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Possibly useful source
Today's Observer has an article Jacob Rees-Mogg: on the trail of the pinstripe pretender which may be a useful source for this article.— Rod talk 10:54, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
What is totally missing from this article, is what it means to be part of moggmentum
Based on the this man's voting record, it goes without saying, the people behind Moggmentum are aligned with his values. His values are not the record of a person with an open mind and beautiful soul.
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• Consistently voted against equal gay rights Show votes 0 votes for, 9 votes against, between 2013–2019 • Consistently voted against smoking bans Show votes 0 votes for, 3 votes against, between 2010–2015 • Consistently voted against allowing marriage between two people of same sex Show votes 0 votes for, 7 votes against, between 2014–2019 • Almost always voted against laws to promote equality and human rights Show votes 2 votes for, 12 votes against, between 2011–2019 • Voted against allowing terminally ill people to be given assistance to end their life Show votes 0 votes for, 1 vote against, in 2015
• Consistently voted for use of UK military forces in combat operations overseas Show votes 6 votes for, 1 vote against, between 2013–2015 • Voted against investigations into the Iraq war Show votes 0 votes for, 1 vote against, in 2016 • Consistently voted for replacing Trident with a new nuclear weapons system Show votes 5 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2016 • Generally voted against more EU integration Show votes 21 votes for, 78 votes against, 6 absences, between 2010–2020 • Generally voted for a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU Show votes 8 votes for, 2 votes against, between 2011–2016 • Consistently voted against strengthening the Military Covenant Show votes 0 votes for, 3 votes against, between 2011–2012 • Generally voted against a right to remain for EU nationals already in living in the UK Show votes 1 vote for, 16 votes against, 3 absences, between 2016–2020 • Almost always voted against UK membership of the EU Show votes 0 votes for, 22 votes against, 2 absences, between 2016–2019 • Consistently voted for military action against ISIL (Daesh) Show votes 3 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2014–2015
• Consistently voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax") Show votes 17 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2012–2018 • Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices Show votes 0 votes for, 5 votes against, in 2013 • Consistently voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability Show votes 0 votes for, 14 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2016 • Consistently voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial need afford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support Show votes 4 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2012 • Consistently voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits Show votes 52 votes for, 0 votes against, 2 absences, between 2012–2016 • Consistently voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed Show votes 0 votes for, 9 votes against, between 2011–2014
• Consistently voted for raising the threshold at which people start to pay income tax Show votes 27 votes for, 0 votes against, 2 absences, between 2011–2018 • Almost always voted for increasing the rate of VAT Show votes 20 votes for, 4 votes against, 2 absences, between 2010–2019 • Almost always voted for higher taxes on alcoholic drinks Show votes 17 votes for, 3 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2017 • Almost always voted for higher taxes on plane tickets Show votes 10 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2013–2017 • Voted a mixture of for and against lower taxes on fuel for motor vehicles Show votes 6 votes for, 10 votes against, between 2010–2013 • Consistently voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000 Show votes 0 votes for, 11 votes against, 1 absence, between 2012–2015 • Consistently voted for encouraging occupational pensions Show votes 3 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2011 • We don’t have enough information to calculate Jacob Rees-Mogg’s position on automatic enrolment in occupational pensions. Show votes 1 vote for, 0 votes against, in 2010 • Almost always voted against a banker’s bonus tax Show votes 1 vote for, 16 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2015 • Voted a mixture of for and against higher taxes on banks Show votes 5 votes for, 8 votes against, 2 absences, between 2011–2018 • Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax) Show votes 0 votes for, 4 votes against, in 2013 • Consistently voted for allowing employees to exchange some employment rights for shares in the company they work for Show votes 5 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2012–2013 • Consistently voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity Show votes 11 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2010–2017 • Almost always voted for reducing capital gains tax Show votes 8 votes for, 1 vote against, between 2010–2016
• Almost always voted for reducing the rate of corporation tax Show votes 23 votes for, 0 votes against, 3 absences, between 2010–2016 • Generally voted for measures to reduce tax avoidance Show votes 7 votes for, 7 votes against, between 2013–2020 • Voted a mixture of for and against stronger tax incentives for companies to invest in assets Show votes 7 votes for, 7 votes against, between 2010–2014 • Consistently voted for new high speed rail infrastructure Show votes 8 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2013–2019
• Almost always voted against restricting the provision of services to private patients by the NHS Show votes 0 votes for, 6 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2012 • Almost always voted for reforming the NHS so GPs buy services on behalf of their patients Show votes 7 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2019 • Consistently voted against smoking bans Show votes 0 votes for, 3 votes against, between 2010–2015 • Voted against allowing terminally ill people to be given assistance to end their life Show votes 0 votes for, 1 vote against, in 2015
• Voted for raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year Show votes 1 vote for, 0 votes against, in 2010 • Consistently voted for academy schools Show votes 11 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2010–2016 • Consistently voted for ending financial support for some 16-19 year olds in training and further education Show votes 2 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2011 • Consistently voted for university tuition fees Show votes 5 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2010–2017
• Consistently voted for reducing central government funding of local government Show votes 8 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2010–2019 • Almost always voted for an equal number of electors per parliamentary constituency Show votes 9 votes for, 0 votes against, 2 absences, between 2010–2016 • Almost always voted for fewer MPs in the House of Commons Show votes 6 votes for, 1 vote against, 1 absence, between 2010–2016 • Consistently voted against a more proportional system for electing MPs Show votes 0 votes for, 5 votes against, between 2010–2020 • Consistently voted against a wholly elected House of Lords Show votes 0 votes for, 2 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2016 • Consistently voted for local councils keeping money raised from taxes on business premises in their areas Show votes 6 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2012–2019 • Consistently voted for greater restrictions on campaigning by third parties, such as charities, during elections Show votes 12 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2013–2016 • Generally voted against fixed periods between parliamentary elections Show votes 0 votes for, 3 votes against, 2 absences, between 2010–2014 • Consistently voted against removing hereditary peers from the House of Lords Show votes 0 votes for, 2 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2016 • Almost always voted against transferring more powers to the Welsh Assembly Show votes 2 votes for, 28 votes against, 1 absence, between 2014–2018 • Almost always voted against transferring more powers to the Scottish Parliament Show votes 4 votes for, 42 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2020 • Generally voted against more powers for local councils Show votes 18 votes for, 33 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2018 • Consistently voted for a veto for MPs from England, Wales and Northern Ireland over laws specifically impacting their part of the UK Show votes 3 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2015 • Consistently voted against a lower voting age Show votes 0 votes for, 5 votes against, between 2015–2016
• Consistently voted for a stricter asylum system Show votes 10 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2015–2020 • Consistently voted for the introduction of elected Police and Crime Commissioners Show votes 8 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2011–2012 • Consistently voted for requiring the mass retention of information about communications Show votes 5 votes for, 1 vote against, 1 absence, between 2014–2016 • Consistently voted for stronger enforcement of immigration rules Show votes 9 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2015–2016 • Consistently voted for mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities Show votes 3 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2016 • Consistently voted for merging police and fire services under Police and Crime Commissioners Show votes 3 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2016
• Generally voted against measures to prevent climate change Show votes 4 votes for, 14 votes against, 4 absences, between 2011–2020 • Voted a mixture of for and against lower taxes on fuel for motor vehicles Show votes 6 votes for, 10 votes against, between 2010–2013 • Consistently voted for selling England’s state owned forests Show votes 2 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2011 • Almost always voted for higher taxes on plane tickets Show votes 10 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2013–2017 • Generally voted against financial incentives for low carbon emission electricity generation methods Show votes 1 vote for, 4 votes against, 1 absence, between 2012–2018 • Almost always voted for culling badgers to tackle bovine tuberculosis Show votes 3 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2013–2014 • Voted a mixture of for and against greater regulation of hydraulic fracturing (fracking) to extract shale gas Show votes 2 votes for, 2 votes against, in 2015 • Consistently voted for new high speed rail infrastructure Show votes 8 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2013–2019
• Almost always voted against greater public control of bus services Show votes 1 vote for, 2 votes against, in 2016 • Almost always voted against slowing the rise in rail fares Show votes 0 votes for, 4 votes against, 1 absence, between 2012–2013 • Voted a mixture of for and against lower taxes on fuel for motor vehicles Show votes 6 votes for, 10 votes against, between 2010–2013 • Almost always voted for higher taxes on plane tickets Show votes 10 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2013–2017 • Consistently voted against a publicly owned railway system Show votes 0 votes for, 4 votes against, in 2016
• Consistently voted for phasing out secure tenancies for life Show votes 5 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2015–2016 • Consistently voted for charging a market rent to high earners renting a council home Show votes 5 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2015–2016
• Consistently voted against greater regulation of gambling Show votes 0 votes for, 7 votes against, between 2013–2014 • Consistently voted for capping civil service redundancy payments Show votes 5 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2010 • We don’t have enough information to calculate Jacob Rees-Mogg’s position on Labour's anti-terrorism laws. Show votes 1 vote for, 0 votes against, in 2010 • Consistently voted for the privatisation of Royal Mail Show votes 3 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2010–2011 • Generally voted against requiring pub companies to offer pub landlords rent-only leases Show votes 1 vote for, 2 votes against, 1 absence, between 2013–2016 • Almost always voted for restricting the scope of legal aid Show votes 11 votes for, 1 vote against, between 2011–2014 • Consistently voted for allowing national security sensitive evidence to be put before courts in secret sessions Show votes 7 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2012–2013 • Generally voted for a statutory register of lobbyists Show votes 3 votes for, 2 votes against, in 2013 • Consistently voted for limits on success fees paid to lawyers in no-win no fee cases Show votes 6 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2012–2013 • Consistently voted against restrictions on fees charged to tenants by letting agents Show votes 0 votes for, 6 votes against, between 2014–2018 • Almost always voted for the policies included in the 2010 Conservative - Liberal Democrat Coalition Agreement |
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.166.248 (talk) 14:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- Voting record collapsed due to its size by Seagull123 Φ 22:47, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Johnson government, Covid, Election loss, Aftermath
Mogg lost his seat at the 2024 election.
However it's unclear if he, or these groups of activists, hope a return to politics could occur one day.
Additionally, there's no coverage of his ministerial positions in the early 2020s. How did Moggmentum advocates react to his time in the news?
Food for thought. ElectronicsForDogs (talk) 13:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC)