Talk:New Orleans

New Orleans was not the largest city in the south from antebellum until ww2. Baltimore was larger for most of that time Matteow101 (talk) 16:51, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm from the south, and Maryland is not southern. It isn't in terms of culture and geography. 76.8.237.112 (talk) 20:26, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

The article, apparently at one time, passed the WP:B-class criteria. the article is currently in the following categories:

• Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2010
• Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2011
• Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2022
• Articles with unsourced statements from February 2024
• Wikipedia articles needing page number citations from February 2024
  • Criteria #1) states: The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited
  • Criteria #2) states: The article is reasonably well-written.

There seems to be a Wikipedia-wide issue of one or more unsourced sentences placed after the source in a paragraph. The concept of an inline citation would be Text–source integrity: When using inline citations, it is important to maintain text–source integrity. The point of an inline citation is to allow readers and other editors to see which part of the material is supported by the citation; that point is lost if the citation is not clearly placed. The distance between material and its source is a matter of editorial judgment, but adding text without clearly placing its source may lead to allegations of original research, of violations of the sourcing policy, and even of plagiarism.

I started searching for sources, attempting to rectify the issues, but, add issues with the last paragraph of the "Drainage and flood control":

• "New Orleans was vulnerable to flooding even before the city's footprint departed from the natural high ground near the Mississippi River. In the late 20th century, however, scientists and New Orleans residents gradually became aware of the city's increased vulnerability. In 1965, flooding from Hurricane Betsy killed dozens of residents, although the majority of the city remained dry. The rain-induced flood of May 8, 1995, demonstrated the weakness of the pumping system. After that event, measures were undertaken to dramatically upgrade pumping capacity. By the 1980s and 1990s, scientists observed that extensive, rapid, and ongoing erosion of the marshlands and swamp surrounding New Orleans, especially that related to the Mississippi River–Gulf Outlet Canal, had the unintended result of leaving the city more vulnerable than before to hurricane-induced catastrophic storm surges."

After around fifty tabs of searches, including keyword searches, I could not verify the unlinked and unsourced content. Maybe someone else can have better luck. -- Otr500 (talk) 16:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add Cubans to demographics section.

https://www.nps.gov/jela/learn/historyculture/cubanos-en-la-delta.htm 124.63.102.175 (talk) 15:05, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: requesting user blocked. Bowler the Carmine | talk 20:44, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

I just found that N’Awlins redirects here. Could someone add that please? 2603:8080:D03:89D4:90C8:7FFC:E377:47B8 (talk) 16:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

The extent and news impact of this happening (https://news.google.com/read/CBMimgFBVV95cUxQeHpETGVCbWRCWk8wZ3FjaW1lUXdWODFJT2tnN0Q2Ri1TSGxDMXdrR1FyRE9xc3hHTjFQYmZSemZ4alNKcHc1SEc3QU1VaHVobHFadHViZVYwd2lqUGRwSXp0WkVlMXlxamRQUm9sWnQtbW92SzUwOVBVUkwtTGhPNVFJTmpFTkdTamNPQzFld2N5eG5Wd3RwS3RR0gFWQVVfeXFMTXVoY2swN2F3U1NxTTN4ZkpvRDRZRDhWTG9yR3VYZEduTWpHVGdQRXVUcGV1dnU2eTBRRHJOYW1VWkxOOElQMWZfMHcxbEZDcWc0OGl5b2c?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen) suggests that it should be at least brieflymentioned. Kdammers (talk) 21:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Could someone add the nickname "N'awlins" in the infobox. If added, it should read "Nicknames: "The Crescent City", "The Big Easy", "The City That Care Forgot", "NOLA", "The City of Yes", "Hollywood South", "The Creole City", "N'awlins" 24.55.33.220 (talk) 23:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: That isn't a nickname so much as a pronunciation. Do you have any reliable sources that refer to "N'awlins" as a nickname? DrOrinScrivello (talk) 14:49, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

This article mentions the 1811 German Coast Uprising in a paragraph. However, it does not refer to that name for the event and does not link to the existing page on the 1811 German Coast uprising Zipperplickman (talk) 21:59, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

Easy enough to add a link. I just did it. MartinezMD (talk) 13:45, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

The pronunciation guide only shows how 'Orleans' is pronounced, but locals don't pronounce 'new' as /nu/ when they say the name of the city; it's closer to /Norlinz/. This should be added in proper IPA. 136.36.176.51 (talk) 18:10, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Do you have a source for this? ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 18:32, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Not really. 1)There are multiple different city accents, so it can vary; no single pronunciation is universal locally, and was not even before the rising influence of national/wider regional accents in the 21st century. 2)The "New" can sometimes casually be shortened to a simple "N"but the result is more N with a short stop before the vowel rather than the syllable "Nor". ("Nə'Or-lee-ans" or N'Or-lins", depending on generation, part of town, etc) -- Infrogmation (talk) 23:12, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Why is the population density of New Orleans calculated using total area (water and land) while other cities/counties are calculated using just land - see San Francisco? WAlanAlder (talk) 16:24, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

A good question. I presume you're referencing the factually-accurate but actually-erroneous calculation of New Orleans' population density? I've repeatedly encountered incorrect assessments of the city's population density, usually in the context of a review of the most densely-populated American cities. While I don't believe such calculations include New Orleans' "water area" while other cities' density figures exclude their "water area", I do believe that New Orleans' ranking as a not-very-dense city is due to the routine analytical failure to exclude the huge chunk of the city that is undeveloped swamp. See the below link to a satellite view screenshot of New Orleans' city limits. One can easily eyeball the image and conclude that between a third and a half of the land included within the city limits of New Orleans is swamp (much of which constitutes the Bayou Sauvage National Wildlife Refuge). Once the approximately 40% of the land area within the city limits that is swamp/wetlands is properly excluded, New Orleans can be classed among the most densely inhabited cities of the entire United States - which by the way squares with the impression anyone who has visited the city can provide: Perhaps only a half-dozen other cities in the States are more densely populated, in actuality.

https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0e6XqyIpKX0CTauYEFpPNVAXQ#New_Orleans_Google_Maps_Deceptive_Density IbervilleMan2 (talk) 04:07, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

Violent Crime - The concluding sentence of the page's introductory section is both inaccurate and out-of-date. Violent crime rates have plummeted in New Orleans since peaking in 2022. The city is currently the safest it's been in my lifetime (I was born in 1975), the safest it's been in over 50 years. See this nola.com article for detail: https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/new-orleans-crime-murder-rate-2025-public-safety/article_7220cd15-8bd4-46bf-9f4d-e4dcc5baafb2.html

Yes, violent crime has declined nationwide since surging in the wake of the pandemic, but rates of violent crime have fallen TWICE AS FAR in New Orleans over the past three years than they have nationwide over the same period. Today, the violent crime rate in New Orleans is DOWN BY TWO-THIRDS since 2022. Given how dramatically crime has declined in the city, it's difficult to conclude that successful policy interventions within the city haven't played a big role in this decline. The founding of the NOLA Coalition in mid-2022, for instance, is doubtless one big reason for the turnaround. (See their recent press release, which details the 67% decrease in violent crime, two-thirds, since 2022, as well as the similarly large decreases in specific categories of violent crime: https://nolacoalition.info/updates/nola-coalition-press-conference-provides-three-year-update-on-plan-to-support-public-safety-and-invest-in-youth-in-new-orleans/?utm_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--lHCXpEFE8c884lARX2Ca7LHRrpFsfE2Rmi7nZfeAtI1_r70x0elUEmxi69dab5NUS1pQ7UPJJ9lq-TMJgdIiJvUp-6Oy1QZ8q7axIjwRpQ3WtgDM&_hsmi=373183968&utm_content=373183968&utm_source=hs_email)

As the 20th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina's landfall approaches (29 August), New Orleans deserves as accurate a depiction as possible across prominent national and international media platforms, including Wikipedia. Some nuance is in order, as is more accuracy.

First, to briefly address the inaccuracy of the (out-of-date) claim regarding murder rates, the 2022 murder rate in New Orleans was lower, on a per capita basis, than some other municipalities in the United States. New Orleans did not post, as the page currently argues, "the highest per capita homicide rate of any municipality in the United States." For instance, both Jackson, MS and Gary, IN recorded higher per capita murder rates in 2022, both of which were north of 80 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants that year (e.g., Jackson's was 87.8 per 100,000 in 2022, while New Orleans' was 70 per 100,000). In truth, I believe New Orleans did notch the highest murder rate AMONG THE FIFTY MOST POPULOUS municipalities in the U.S. that year, but that's not the same thing as the highest of any municipality. There are tens of thousands of incorporated municipalities in the country, and an unfortunate clutch posted more murders per capita than did New Orleans that year. I belabor the point, because both the cited sources on the page for this claim (including New Orleans television media sources) and an AI-powered Google query give the wrong answer.

Besides, that was three years ago. With violent crime rates down by two-thirds since then, there is no reason to include such an out-of-date observation on the page.

If violent crime within New Orleans had only in the past three years declined, but was otherwise raging out of control for the past couple decades, more caution in modifying the claim might be warranted. However, this was not the case. The concluding sentence of the page's introductory section suggests, inaccurately, that an unrelentingly high level of violent crime has existed in the city over the past twenty years. In fact, the rate of violent crime has waxed and waned in the years after Katrina. For example, 2019 was notable in that the city registered the LOWEST number of homicides that year (120) since the early 1970s (the lowest number since 1972, I believe - and it is notable that 2025 is tracking to register a still lower number). This is why the surge of crime that followed in the wake of the pandemic was so particularly upsetting, as for most of the 2010s it appeared that we'd decisively put paid to high levels of violent crime within the city limits. Why was that a common sentiment? The police force had been placed under a United States Department of Justice consent decree - one that the city had willingly entered into in 2012 - which had reformed policing. Furthermore, steady economic growth, greatly improved levels of educational attainment and a significantly lower poverty rate post-2005 all suggested additional reasons for optimism.

Suggested Edit - So I suggest that the following sentence replace the last sentence of the page's introductory section:

"Additionally, rates of violent crime remain higher than nationwide levels, though by mid-2025 prolonged focus on addressing root causes and reforming the criminal justice system has reduced the incidence of violent crime to its lowest levels within the city limits since the early 1970s."

In short, New Orleans deserves an accurate assessment on the eve of Katrina's 20th anniversary, not a gratuitous gut-punch (however unintentioned). IbervilleMan2 (talk) 02:40, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

This is actually another nickname for New Orleans. 112.208.79.200 (talk) 13:14, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Are there any reliable sources to back this up? NotJamestack (talk) 16:29, 2 November 2025 (UTC)