Talk:Otto Warmbier

It's not ironic that he never saw Otto after saying "that's the last we'll see of him". It's fitting Qwerty21212121 (talk) 10:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Qwerty21212121 Unfortunately, it's within a quote, so we can't alter it. -- Zanimum (talk) 04:23, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

A sentence in the "Early Life" section reads, "He was a member of the Theta Chi fraternity and also." Chocohall (talk) 22:02, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I have repaired the damage. Muzilon (talk) 22:14, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

You neglected to mention that Trump got him released, along with other political prisoners. Also, Trump got over 50 MIA's remains returned to the US. 2600:1700:F180:FFD0:780C:EFC2:4019:E84F (talk) 12:22, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Did you actually read the Release section? "Tillerson also announced that the State Department had secured Warmbier's release at the direction of President Donald Trump, and the State Department would continue discussing three other detained Americans with North Korea." The subsequent release of those three Korean-Americans is mentioned in an endnote. And Wikipedia already has a separate article about the MIA remains. —Muzilon (talk) 13:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

I queried whether Asian Boss is a reliable source. This is the result. Jack Upland (talk) 03:44, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

The interview with the North Korean defector isn't exactly "anonymous" as someone else suggested in that WP:RSN discussion - the YouTube video identifies him as "Chul-eun Lee" (whether that's his real name is another story). The defector's story of Warmbier being waterboarded (or worse) somewhat matches the allegations made by Kim Dong-chul, the Korean-American prisoner who subsequently made it back to the USA. Perhaps these allegations should be merged into a single paragraph rather than being dealt with in two separate sections of the article. Muzilon (talk) 05:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea.--Jack Upland (talk) 04:00, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Done. I tried to find English-language sources for Kim Dong-chul's statements about Warmbier, but couldn't locate anything. Muzilon (talk) 04:52, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

@Benwetmore: please see this archived discussion. Although there was much media speculation that Warmbier may have strayed onto the staff-only fifth floor of the Yanggakdo Hotel, Warmbier's confession clearly stated that he took the poster from the second floor of the hotel. I have updated the pertinent endnote per WP:CONFLICTING. Muzilon (talk) 19:26, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

The New American, a newsletter of the John Birch Society is considered generally unreliable for factual claims - see WP:RSP. Was there any of this particular speculation in clear RSes? - David Gerard (talk) 09:04, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, the BBC and Huffington Post reported the mysterious "5th floor" as speculation, while The Guardian and CTV seemed to take it as fact. Muzilon (talk) 11:16, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

in the release section

there's a paragraph of this In May 2017, Fred Warmbier said the Obama administration

wasn't trump on January 20, 2017? if I'm correct MagicMagicKing (talk) 13:11, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, MagicMagicKing. You are correct that Trump was in the White House by May 2017. But when "Fred Warmbier said the Obama administration had encouraged them to keep a low profile about their son's situation", he is talking about the past. In the source, it is stated that "a new administration is giving the Warmbiers new hope", referring to the first Trump administration. So, not a typo. Sam Sailor 15:07, 21 June 2025 (UTC)