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Edit request: replace 2013 infobox photograph with 2024 self-portrait

Hello. I am Patrick Lamb, the subject of this article, editing under my declared COI account. The current infobox photograph is from 2013 and no longer reflects my current appearance. I have uploaded a new portrait to Wikimedia Commons that I shot myself with a self-timer in 2024, released as own work under CC BY-SA 4.0.

I tried to make this change directly earlier today and UtherSRG correctly reverted it as a COI edit. I am now bringing it here as a proper edit request.

Requested change in the {{Infobox musical artist}}:

From:

| image = Saxophonist Patrick Lamb in Portland, 2013.jpg
| caption = Lamb in 2013

To:

| image = Patrick Lamb saxophonist 2024 portrait 01.jpg
| caption = Lamb in 2024

The new file is at File:Patrick Lamb saxophonist 2024 portrait 01.jpg. Three additional self-portraits from the same set are also on Commons as portraits 02, 03, and 04 if a reviewing editor would prefer a different image. The existing 2013 file remains on Commons and is not being requested for deletion.

Thank you for considering this. Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 01:49, 13 May 2026 (UTC)


Edit request: sources for two citation-needed tags in Billboard section

The two citation-needed tags in the "Billboard charting and SiriusXM Watercolors" section can be addressed from the following published sources.

For the claim that "Tailgate!" was added to SiriusXM Watercolors and was "Most Added" at smooth-jazz radio, the supporting source is the subject's official biography page at patricklamb.com/bio, which describes the track as added to SiriusXM Watercolors and "most-added to Billboard Radio." A contemporary post from the SiriusXM Watercolors and Patrick Lamb social-media channels also confirms the addition (https://www.facebook.com/patricklambmusic/videos/567402826299111/).

For the 2026 single "Horizon Line", the song is currently tracked on the RadioWave Monitor Groove Jazz 100 chart, where it is listed at No. 17 for the week of 26 May 2026 (https://www.radiowavemonitor.com/pub_charts/r100_7.aspx). The current article wording (No. 20 on RadioWave / No. 26 on SmoothJazz.com) is no longer accurate; the present radio position documented in published sources is the No. 17 figure on the Groove Jazz 100.

Suggested replacement wording for the two sentences currently tagged:

"Patrick Lamb's single 'Tailgate!' was added to SiriusXM Watercolors and was reported as 'Most Added' at smooth-jazz radio.[1] His 2026 single 'Horizon Line' reached No. 17 on the RadioWave Groove Jazz 100 chart in the week of 26 May 2026.[2]"

Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 04:34, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Edit request: year of birth — published source identified

The article currently triggers the hidden category "Year of birth missing (living people)". The subject's date of birth is published on his Apple Music artist page (https://music.apple.com/us/artist/patrick-lamb/30772273) as "May 4, 1970".

Proposed addition to {{Infobox musical artist}}:

| birth_date = {{birth date and age|1970|5|4}}

(No change to birth_place.)

If a reviewer prefers to add only the year rather than the full date, the alternative is:

| birth_date = 1970

Either change will clear the "Year of birth missing (living people)" hidden category.

Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 04:34, 27 May 2026 (UTC)


Edit request: biographical additions to Early life and Touring sideman work

Three small biographical additions, all sourced primarily to self-published material per WP:ABOUTSELF (non-controversial facts about the subject, not unduly self-serving):

1. First saxophone teacher (Early life and education). The subject's existing Apple Music for Artists Q&A bio names his first saxophone teacher. Proposed addition to the Early life section, after the sentence about Stan Getz and Wayne Shorter influences:

"Lamb was first introduced to the saxophone by Robert Ernst, the band teacher at Cedar Park Middle School in Portland.[3]"

2. Specific tenures with Vannelli and Caldwell (Touring sideman work). The current paragraph lists Gino Vannelli and Bobby Caldwell as flat generic credits. The subject's own Facebook artist page (@patricklambmusic) specifies two tenures that more accurately reflect the relationships: eighteen years with Vannelli and eight years in Caldwell's band. Proposed revision (insert one sentence after the Diane Schuur sentence, then tighten the flat list):

"Lamb spent eighteen years touring with Gino Vannelli and eight years as part of Bobby Caldwell's band.[4] He has also toured or recorded with Smokey Robinson, Esperanza Spalding, the Jeff Lorber Fusion, and Jason Scheff, the lead vocalist of Chicago from 1985 to 2016, and shared concert stages with Bobby Kimball of Toto, Tommy Thayer of Kiss, Robby Krieger of The Doors, Sebastian Bach, Danny Seraphine of Chicago, and Alice Cooper, among others."

This combines (a) the new Vannelli/Caldwell tenure language and (b) the Jason Scheff addition into one tightened sentence; existing citations to the GigRoster and All About Jazz sources still apply to the shared-stage list.

If a reviewer prefers a more conservative formulation, the minimal change is to insert "Jason Scheff (lead vocalist of Chicago, 1985–2016)" into the existing sideman list and leave the rest unchanged.

Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 04:55, 27 May 2026 (UTC)



Follow-up — better sources identified, plus the Chris Botti connection. Since posting the section above I have located two stronger published sources for the Robert Ernst paragraph: a Portland Tribune Q&A (2013) and an International Musician (AFM magazine) cover profile (Feb 2014). Both quote the subject directly on his start on the saxophone, and both include a notable detail that I should have included in the original request — the same teacher had previously taught Chris Botti.
Quote from Cullivan (Portland Tribune, 2013): "I didn't start playing until 1983 when I moved to Portland and enrolled late at Cedar Park Middle School and enrolled in beginning band with Mr. Robert Ernst. Mr. Ernst also taught (recent Grammy winner) Chris Botti before me."
Quote from International Musician (Feb 2014): "After Lamb's father completed his doctorate at the University of Texas, he took a job in Portland, Oregon, and that's where Patrick Lamb began his formal music education at Cedar Park Middle School. 'The beginning band teacher [Robert Ernst] was the same beginning teacher that [Local 802 (New York City) member] Chris Botti had,' says Lamb."
Revised proposal for the Early life section (replaces the Apple-Music-cited version above):
"Lamb began playing saxophone in 1983 after his family settled in the Portland area, enrolling in beginning band at Cedar Park Middle School in Beaverton, Oregon, under Robert Ernst, who had previously taught Chris Botti.[5][6]"
Three changes vs. the original request: (1) the Apple Music citation is replaced with two independent secondary sources (Portland Tribune and the AFM's International Musician), (2) the previously-omitted Chris Botti detail is now included with sourcing, and (3) the school's municipality is given as Beaverton (Cedar Park is in the Beaverton School District) rather than the colloquial "Portland" used in the sources.
Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 05:24, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Edit request: add Bobby Caldwell quote to Critical reception

The Critical reception section currently cites Todd Barkan and Dave Koz, both sourced to the subject's official press page (patricklamb.com, existing reference #14). A third blurb on the same press page is attributed to Bobby Caldwell. Proposed addition to the Critical reception section:

"Bobby Caldwell, with whose band Lamb toured for eight years, called him 'one of the best instrumentalists I've ever worked with.'[7]"

This uses the same patricklamb.com/press source as the existing Barkan and Koz quotes. If a reviewer prefers a stronger origin, the quote also appears in EPK materials issued under Patrick Lamb Productions; happy to provide the alternate citation on request.

Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 04:55, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Edit request: add detail to White House section

The White House (1996 and 1997) section is well-sourced. One small factual detail the subject recalls from those performances — that he was introduced to President Clinton during the holiday Congressional VIP Tours — is not yet in the article. As with the existing Lauderdale companion detail (currently noted in footnote a as "Lamb's recollection ... not independently corroborated in published sources"), this would be a recollection-only detail.

Proposed sentence, with the same note-style caveat as the Lauderdale footnote, appended to the White House paragraph:

"During the 1996 and 1997 performances, Lamb was introduced to President Clinton.[a]"

If a reviewer would prefer not to add recollection-only material, please disregard this section.

Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 04:55, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Edit request: residence, external link, and Portland venue history

Three small surface additions:

1. Palm Beach, Florida residence — lead or origin. The article is already in Category:Musicians from Palm Beach County, Florida but the prose still reads "Origin: Portland, Oregon" with no mention of the subject's current Florida residence. Proposed minimal addition to the lead, after the OMHF / Muddy Award sentence:

"Lamb is based in Palm Beach, Florida.[8]"

(The Apple Music artist page lists his current location. If a reviewer prefers the WP:ABOUTSELF standard be met by a different source, patricklamb.com also lists Palm Beach as his current base.)

2. Spotify external link. The External links section currently includes Billboard, All About Jazz, Apple Music, Bandsintown, and Wikimedia Commons, but no Spotify link, which is the largest streaming source for the subject's catalog. Proposed addition:

* {{official|1=https://open.spotify.com/artist/3qR6sqXnnwZm3tLed2CO35 |2=Patrick Lamb at Spotify}}

(Or as a plain link if the {{official}} template is not preferred for streaming services.)

3. Jimmy Mak's anchor relationship — Solo career. The subject was historically a regular saxophonist at Jimmy Mak's, the long-running Portland jazz club, and a personal friend of the owner Jimmy Makarounis until Makarounis's death in 2016. Proposed addition to the Solo recording and performance career section, if a reviewer can identify a sourceable mention (suggestions: Oregonian obituary for Jim Makarounis, Willamette Week coverage of Jimmy Mak's closing). I do not yet have a published secondary source to cite; flagging here for any reviewer who may have better access to Portland-area press archives. If no source can be found, please disregard this third item.

Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 04:55, 27 May 2026 (UTC)


Follow-up: a published source has now been found for the Jimmy Mak's item (item 3 above). When I posted this section I did not have a secondary source for the Jimmy Mak's connection. I now do. The Portland Radio Project article "Jimmy Mak and the Language of Music" (January 4, 2017) is an interview-based piece in which the club's owner, Jimmy Makarounis, recalls that the first act to play Jimmy Mak's when it opened was Patrick Lamb. A possible sentence for the Solo recording and performance career section is: "Lamb was the first act to perform at the Portland jazz club Jimmy Mak's after it opened in 1996," with a citation to "Jimmy Mak and the Language of Music". Portland Radio Project. January 4, 2017.. It could also be linked to the existing Jimmy Mak's article. I still do not have an independent secondary source for the separate point that the ticketing company handled the club's ticketing, so please leave that part out for now. Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 04:33, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Edit request: remove two leftover drafting notes from the article body

Two small cleanup items. Both are leftover drafting notes that should not be in the finished article.

The first is in the Discography section. It currently ends with the sentence "A complete discography may be reconstructed from Lamb's MusicBrainz and Apple Music profiles once entered by the editor." That sentence is a note to editors, not article content, so please remove it. The list of selected singles above it is fine to keep.

The second is footnote a in the Notes section. It currently says the Lauderdale detail "is not independently corroborated in published sources reviewed during research for this draft (April 2026); editors are encouraged to seek additional sourcing." The wording about research for the draft is left over from when this was a draft. Please change that footnote to read: "The 1996 accompanist Ed Bisquera is corroborated by The Rocket. Lamb's recollection of Thomas Lauderdale as his 1997 accompanist is not independently corroborated in published sources."

Thanks for considering these. Updatepatrickfacts (talk) 04:20, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Consolidated edit request (supersedes seven earlier requests)

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