Talk:Pauxi language

See . Викидим (talk) 23:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

See what? Are these the same 'Pauxi'? — kwami (talk) 23:52, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

How do I know? That's why I put it here - to discuss. Викидим (talk) 03:44, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Yes, but you conflated the articles without knowing. If you have no idea what you're doing, you shouldn´t do anything. — kwami (talk) 19:46, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

1. First of all, it pays off to be precise. I did not "conflate" anything anywhere. In this section, in particular, I simply proposed to look at a source and discuss it - I did not even propose to add it to the article yet. Your statement that you have no idea what you are doing IMHO does not replace a discussion.
2. Yes, I am not an expert in this area, so a short and clear explanation of why glottolog using sources dated 1901, 1948, and 1971 trumps the Springer and de Gruyter publications of 2012-2013 will make me to accept your position. Stating that you shouldn´t do anything, surprisingly, also works: I came here to write an encyclopedia, not to read insults directed at me. Thus, colleague @Kwamikagami: feel free to describe here the (reasonably narrow) list of topics that you feel yourself to be an expert in, and I promise to do my best in the future to stay out of them.

Викидим (talk) 20:46, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Dear colleague @Kwamikagami: I am totally lost on the reason(s) for your revert of my edit. The sources now in the article contain:

1. glottolog - apparently zero information, except for the name
2. Coudreau 1901 - clearly describes "Pauxis" (people) moving to Cuminá River (p. 132, same as Erepecurú River).

The source I have added (Sebeok 2013) clearly states (twice, on p. 497) that "Pauxi" is spoken on Epercuru River and is also known as "Pawiyana". Based on matching geography and name, Coudreau and Sebeok are clearly talking about the same people and language. Another source I have added (Campbell & Grondona 2012, on p. 81) clearly places the three names of this language as "dialect" (singular) into Kashuyana language group. I have added all this information to the article, including the page numbers for the claims.

Can you let me know the background of your reversal of my changes in this article and in Pawiyana language? Thankful in advance, Викидим (talk) 04:31, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Due to a typo, ping should not have worked, pinging @Kwamikagami: again. Викидим (talk) 04:32, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

For convenience, here are the deleted sources:

• Sebeok, Thomas (2013-11-11). Native Languages of the Americas: Volume 2. Springer Science & Business Media. p. 497. ISBN 978-1-4757-1562-0. Retrieved 2025-10-26.
• Campbell, Lyle; Grondona, Verónica (2012-01-27). The Indigenous Languages of South America: A Comprehensive Guide. Walter de Gruyter. p. 81. ISBN 978-3-11-025803-5. Retrieved 2025-10-26.

--Викидим (talk) 04:53, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

For convenience, glottolog, in addition to Coudreau 1901, uses:

• Girard, Victor (1971). Proto-Carib phonology (dissertation). Ann Arbor: University of California at Berkeley.
• Nimuendajú, Curt (1948). "Little-known tribes of the Lower Amazon". In Steward, Julian H. (ed.). The Tropical Forest Tribes. Washington: Smithsonian Institution, Bureau of American Ethnology. pp. 209–211.

Викидим (talk) 05:02, 27 October 2025 (UTC)