Talk:Rembrandt

Watchers of this article may want to have a look at Rembrandt engravings, which just came through AfC as a translation from fr-wiki. -- asilvering (talk) 07:38, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. Of course it is a poor OKA translation of a fairly poor French wp article, but there is a gap here. So far I've renamed & rewritten the lead, but more is needed. In particular the translator (if not a AI thing) was evidently blissfully ignorant of the complicated ways that printmaking terminology doesn't map easily between French & English. Johnbod (talk) 17:07, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree that the article can use some work (what article doesn't?), not least because of some major style differences between what fr-wiki accepts as a GA/FA and en-wiki's norms. But I don't think it's particularly fair to call it a poor article, or the translator ignorant (even blissfully). This was promoted to FA on fr-wiki last year, and this particular OKA translator has been quite receptive to feedback. -- asilvering (talk) 18:43, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

The tip of the iceberg on terminology issues is that "Rembrandt engravings" are not engravings but etchings (as the new lead says). The use of the equivalents to "engravings" as a catch-all term for prints is still ok in French, & I think German and Italian, but it stopped being so in English nearly a century ago. The bottom half of the article goes into ridiculous dissertation-style detail on varnish recipes and so on, but if there is a statement in the article of the total number of prints attributed to Rembrandt, I couldn't find it. I'll have to dig that up & add it.Johnbod (talk) 03:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

It's written Rembrandt's paintings is about a variety of subjects. But i think a lot of his paintings is religious. Portraits aren't applied to this. Portraits are basically photos. Most Rembrandt's paintings of creative thinking appear religious. Rembrandt didn't go to church frequently but maybe did other Christian practices. How much of Rembrandt's genre paintings is religious? Is a signifiant amount about other subjects? Rebourne Ohcs (talk) 22:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, R did very few if any genre paintings, though his prints include some "genre" subjects of beggars etc. Johnbod (talk) 16:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. There is uncited prose in the article, including entire paragraphs and an orange "more citations needed" orange banner at the top of "The Night Watch" section. There are also some unreliable sources used in the article, like "www.rembrandt-signature-file.com" and IMDB; with the extensive amount of literature written about him, I think it would be a good idea to replace some of these website sources with higher-quality publications, but at least remove the unreliable ones. Z1720 (talk) 00:44, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

As one of the two main authors at the time, we both opposed the drive-by GA nom and pass back in 2007, thinking it wasn't ready. Though I did then work on GA review points. The article is certainly much better now than then. There are so many other articles on R that adding the refs they have here mostly requires little specialist knowledge. Perhaps you could assuage your concerns by doing it, User:Z1720? Pop culture elements won't be covered in most scholarly sources. Johnbod (talk) 16:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

• I do not have the expertise to complete this task quickly, nor do I have the time or the will. Hopefully, someone will indicate below that they want to conduct this work. If not, perhaps a GAR will find someone. Z1720 (talk) 22:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

• As I said, expertise is not necessary. You seem to have the "time and the will" to set up vast numbers of GARs. It would imo do you good to try fixing some of these issues yourself, rather than continually expecting others to do the work. Johnbod (talk) 01:03, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

• One editor cannot maintain 40,801 articles (the current count of good articles) themselves, nor should they attempt to. If others want these articles to remain good articles, I encourage them to upkeep the articles so that reviews are not necessary. An article does not have to have GA status. Z1720 (talk) 01:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

There appear to be three different books by Seymour Silve that are used as references:

• Slive, Seymour: The Drawings of Rembrandt: A New Study. (London: Thames & Hudson, 2009) - Ref 110
• Silve, Seymour: The Drawings of Rembrandt. (London: Thames & Hudson, 2019) - Ref 111
• Slive, Seymour, Dutch Painting, 1600–1800, Yale UP, 1995, ISBN 0-300-07451-4 - In the 'Works cited' section

Unfortunately, when the short citation is used (e.g. Ref 14: Slive, pp. 60, 65) the year is not mentioned and so it is impossible to know which book of the three is being used. Could an editor with knowledge of the sources add the year of publication to the short citations please? Thanks 2A00:23C4:AC9B:9C01:F088:FCD7:AA8F:1722 (talk) 07:23, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

They are all Slive (1995), now added. The drawings one are only used once (back to back); these were added later. Johnbod (talk) 14:32, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks very much Johnbod! 2A00:23C4:AC9B:9C01:DFE:1D4C:1FFA:6733 (talk) 20:07, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Footnotes 51, 53, and 141 cited Clark 1974, but neither "Works cited" nor "Further reading" lists a book by Clark from that year. Therefore, we don't even know whether the footnotes refer to Kenneth Clark, Maurice Magnus (talk) 14:29, 4 January 2026 (UTC)