Talk:Rising (Rainbow album)
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Isn't the album actually titled Rainbow Rising?
Isn't the album actually titled 'Rainbow Rising'... that's what it says on my vinyl copy and the artist is down as 'Blackmore's Rainbow'... 81.31.97.129 00:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- It's Rising. It's not heavy metal either, it's hard rock.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.187.252 (talk • contribs) 04:24 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, the spine of the LP does have it as Blackmore's Rainbow, although the front cover doesn't. Al —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.217.240 (talk) 04:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- It was originally, on the gatefold sleeve LP and on the record label, if anyone still has that. (I used to have a promo poster for the LP with 'Ritchie Blackmore - A Rainbow Rising', FWIW) Only later on did it become referred to as 'Rising', by Rainbow. The first studio album that billed the band just as 'Rainbow' was 'Long Live Rock 'n' Roll'. 81.31.97.129 (talk) 21:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Progressive rock
I wonder why no-one mentioned that this album is an progressive rock record? Lengthy 6 to 8 minutes-long epics with sophisticated arrangements, untypical melodies, distinctive keyboards, fantasy lyrics... I think that's enough to consider it and Long Live Rock'n'Roll progressive.--95.37.255.59 (talk) 11:00, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not that I really disagree or anything, but it would be great if you could find a (reliable) source suggesting that they are progressive. --L1A1 FAL (talk) 14:17, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you can find Rainbow on progarchives.com. I believe that this site can be concidered as a reliable source. Anyway, it definitely showcases that I am not alone in my suggestions.--95.37.255.59 (talk) 17:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- Prog Archives lists them as prog-related, not progressive rock proper. It does say that their first four albums (especially the songs "Stargazer" and "Gates of Babylon") inspired symphonic progressive metal bands like Symphony X though. Nite-Sirk (talk) 22:48, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Bowie and Queen are in prog-related too, though nobody will argue that they both had art-rock/prog albums in they discographies. And so Asia is in prog-related category too, that's just for your information. Same with Rainbow — their post-Dio stuff (except for some tracks from Stranger in Us All) was very far from prog at all — yet Rainbow had their prog moments on Rising and Long Live Rock'n'Roll. And y-es, they had inspired sympho prog metal — so I don't think that this is reasonable to claim that founders of any genre's sound were that far from this genre so you will consider them as a completely different genre.--109.184.212.99 (talk) 02:40, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Well, Prog Archives claims that Rainbow influenced progressive and symphonic bands, not that they played progressive rock. By that same logic, we would list Swans as grindcore and industrial metal as they influenced Napalm Death and Godflesh, or Suffocation as deathcore or slam death metal since they use breakdowns and influenced deathcore and slam bands. Also, Prog Archives is not considered reliable in Wikipedia (see here). Nite-Sirk (talk) 21:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think it's progressive rock. It's just two really long songs that don't change TOO much throughout. I'd say it's still heavy metal but not speed metal, the last song is the only fast song on there.108.81.33.59 (talk) 03:36, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well, Prog Archives claims that Rainbow influenced progressive and symphonic bands, not that they played progressive rock. By that same logic, we would list Swans as grindcore and industrial metal as they influenced Napalm Death and Godflesh, or Suffocation as deathcore or slam death metal since they use breakdowns and influenced deathcore and slam bands. Also, Prog Archives is not considered reliable in Wikipedia (see here). Nite-Sirk (talk) 21:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Bowie and Queen are in prog-related too, though nobody will argue that they both had art-rock/prog albums in they discographies. And so Asia is in prog-related category too, that's just for your information. Same with Rainbow — their post-Dio stuff (except for some tracks from Stranger in Us All) was very far from prog at all — yet Rainbow had their prog moments on Rising and Long Live Rock'n'Roll. And y-es, they had inspired sympho prog metal — so I don't think that this is reasonable to claim that founders of any genre's sound were that far from this genre so you will consider them as a completely different genre.--109.184.212.99 (talk) 02:40, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Prog Archives lists them as prog-related, not progressive rock proper. It does say that their first four albums (especially the songs "Stargazer" and "Gates of Babylon") inspired symphonic progressive metal bands like Symphony X though. Nite-Sirk (talk) 22:48, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you can find Rainbow on progarchives.com. I believe that this site can be concidered as a reliable source. Anyway, it definitely showcases that I am not alone in my suggestions.--95.37.255.59 (talk) 17:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
Peer review
Rising (Rainbow album)
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I've listed this article for peer review because I expanded the article substantially and I neeed advice to improve its structure, as well as its grammar and syntax.
Thanks, Lewismaster (talk) 15:07, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Narutolovehinata5
Please note that this is the first time I have done a peer review in several years, so apologies if this review is not complete or inadequate. Please note that I am only checking the article text itself and not the sources, so I cannot comment on verification and the like. Still, I hope you find this review helpful:
- I do not think that it is proper to call Birch "renowned" in the lede as that is a word to avoid, particularly if there is no source directly stating him as such.
Starting in June 1976, the band embarked on an intense six-months world tour supporting the release of Rising and frictions among the band members emerged.
The grammar in this sentence is off and probably needs copyediting.The reviewers appreciated the heaviness and complexity of the music and some suggested a replacement of the waning Deep Purple, the band Blackmore came from, with Rainbow in the hard rock hierarchy.
This is a bit of a run on and may need to be clarified or replaced.The album featured guest vocals from Blackmore’s girlfriend, Shoshana Feinstein, though their intense relationship ended abruptly in May 1975.
In what way was their relationship "intense", and is this claim cited in the source?the English Cozy Powell
This sounds a bit off, may need rephrasing.after such a long preparation and rehearsal
This wording seems too informal for an encyclopedia.were hired to provide the tapestry of classical instruments to be added to last part of the song
This is missing a "the" before "last part".Rising was not a striking commercial success
This seems like a subjective claim, so it needs a reference to confirm it.- The explanation about the difference between the titles Rising and Rainbow Rising is confusing and may need to be clarified: the album was originally titled Rainbow Rising and was renamed later? That could be reworded better.
This is mostly through a quick check in the article, and there is a lot that I probably missed. Admittedly, album articles are outside my expertise, so I'm not sure if the article's structure fits the typical album structure. My suggestion would be to ask for feedback from an expert on these things. I would suggest Launchballer, an editor active on Did you know, who specializes in music articles.
Speaking of Did you know, if you ever bring the article to GA status, I would suggest nominating it for DYK. Looking at the article, I saw multiple interesting facts that would work as potential hooks. I would be glad to help out if you ever decide to bring it to DYK.
Thank you and I hope you found this helpful. Also, feel free to ask reviews from other editors as they could give other comments as well. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:58, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your peer review. You may be slightly out of practice with this kind of work, but I myself have not written a Wikipedia article since 2021. A month confined to a hospital bed prompted me to try again; however, this time I unashamedly made use of AI assistance to polish my writing after completing the research in the sources.
- 1-3 - I agree with all your points. I will rewrite all the intro make it more concise and grammatically sound.
- 4 - The relationship lasted from the summer of 1972 to 1975. In her interview Shoshana Feinstein called it "passionate, fiery and profound." Bloom reported that "she was very important to him, very deep in his heart." I think the adjective "intense" could be appropriate.
- 5 - Rephrased
- 6 - Rewritten
- 7- Corrected
- 8- I suppose "striking" is not the right adjective. Perhaps "huge" is better. The album did not enter the Top 10 in any country and achieved no more than 500,000 certified sales.
- 9- Rewritten. I hope it is clearer now.
- I followed the current Album article style advice for the structure of the article, though I remain uncertain about the placement of text in two sections: the description of the music genres, which is now in the "Writing" section, and the musicians’ reactions to the album, which I have placed in the "Legacy" section.
- I intend to submit the article to the GA procedure in the near future and I am open to any other suggestion to make it better. Thank you again. Lewismaster (talk) 16:01, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Apparently Launchballer is not available for his personal issues. I will try someone else. Lewismaster (talk) 16:11, 23 September 2025 (UTC)