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Requested move 15 March 2026
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Scotus → Scotus (disambiguation) – SCOTUS already redirects to Supreme Court of the United States, so I think the minimally different Scotus should as well. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 14:40, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support WikiNav shows that 96.27% of traffic goes to the Supreme Court. 1isall (talk | contribs) 15:39, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Per WP:DIFFCAPS. "SCOTUS" is an abbreviation, "Scotus" is not and will never refer to the US Supreme Court. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:50, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose. John Duns Scotus and John Scotus Eriugena are quite famous. The dab page obscures that. The former has an article devoted to his thought at Scotism. The difference between 'Scotus' and 'SCOTUS' hardly seems minimal. Srnec (talk) 01:23, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support, per the information above that 96.27% of the readers looking for scotus click over to the U.S. Supreme Court article. Many people, when searching, don't differentiate between lowercase and uppercase and just type the name without bothering with caps. The 96.27% figure shows that to be the case. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:14, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support per WP:RASTONISH, WP:PT1, and 1isall. The wikinav is obvious. People are typing in "Scotus" when they really mean "SCOTUS" because it is easier to type without holding shift down the whole time. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 08:06, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- WikiNav is interesting, but not an end-all tool for statistics because so often we see people cherry-picking it. It shows 1.03k clicks to the proposed primary topic in February. The raw data says 1032. Pageviews shows 1,590 views total. That's actually ~64.9%. It's quite a lot, but we've had other cases where it wasn't determinative. What did the remaining ~35.1% readers do, why wouldn't they also click the same link if they meant it? Page views also show substantial variations, with last August being only 831. The relevant data clickstream-enwiki-2025-08.tsv from the time shows 457, which would be ~55% : 45%. So there's a fair bit of variation there (see also all-time view where there's much more). I don't think any people lazily looking up "SCOTUS" as "scotus" are in any way astonished that they don't get redirected and have to click the very first link in the list. Readers are generally aware of what letter cases are and that they're not necessarily going to get identical results when they use them casually in an encyclopedia. Wikipedia isn't a search engine, and readers are generally aware of that. I don't think we need to twist ourselves into a pretzel to try to support every casual mode of navigation to the fullest extent - the way navigation is organized here now is completely mundane and already obvious to the average reader. (Oppose) --Joy (talk) 08:45, 16 March 2026 (UTC)