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In the gas canisters section it says, "In Sweden in 1984, carbonic acid supplier Sydbrand, primarily a supplier of fire equipment, was sued successfully by SodaStream". Shouldn't that read "successfully sued by W & A Gilbey Ltd."? Since SodaStream wasn't it's own company until 1991 and, at that time, was a subsidiary of W & A Gilbey Ltd.? I'm not an expert in Swedish law so I figured I'd ask. Robo042 (talk) 01:18, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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I'm not sure where @Hyperionsteel: sourced the information about PACBI in this edit, the content that has just been removed here, but Al Jazeera's "SodaStream factory shows Palestinian Bedouins' plight" article covers this in some detail including for example BDS co-founder Omar Barghouti saying "This closure is a clear-cut BDS victory against an odiously complicit Israeli company" and explaining that "The BDS campaign against SodaStream will continue, as the company is moving to a location where it is directly colluding in the ethnic cleansing of Bedouin Palestinian citizens of Israel in the Naqab [Negev]." and that Sodastream CEO Daniel Birnbaum "admitted BDS had played some role in the move" which he described as "minimal". There is plenty of other information in this and other sources to ensure the issues are given a detail and weight that is in proper proportion to the coverage by RS, as is required by mandatory policy. Sean.hoyland - talk 11:44, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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Would someone with more experience mind reviewing this edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SodaStream&curid=4153354&diff=921269808&oldid=917931961&diffmode=source). I'm not sure about whether the wording by the editor should be used? Thank you. Daylen (talk) 04:00, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Checking whether the source given uses the word "alleged" is all the review that's needed. If it does, the edit's probably fine; otherwise, it should be reverted (or another source found). In this instance, the latter seems to be the case. 78.28.45.145 (talk) 08:47, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Factory move
Missing end quote?
was reading the article and happened to notice a missing end quote in the controversy section. the quote as-is reads "Birnbaum said that the factories are apolitical. "We don't take sides in this conflict. He described the factory as "building bridges between us and the Palestinian population, and we provide our Palestinian employees with respectable employment opportunities and an appropriate salary and benefits"." however, i believe there should be an end quote after 'conflict' because the article switches back to referring to birnbaum in the third person, and proceeds to quote a different section from the source article, without appearing to be part of a larger quote from a different source. thanks for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.43.203.181 (talk) 16:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
mechanism of operation
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I'm surprised that there's no explanation as to what that means on the bottle, and it sounds dubious enough to want to know yet they don't explain what they're really claiming, specifically. Is it for having the trademark on the bottle? DOT shipping requirement (i.e. you're not supposed to ship refilled bottles unless Sodastream if I understand it right)? Can't be patents as it's even on the ancient design. Seems to run right into first sale and exhaustion issues among others, if they try to claim ownership. It's beginning to feel like the Nintendo Seal of Quality, all over again. 74.196.181.80 (talk) 20:56, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hi everyone. I'd like to suggest integrating the Controversies section into the History section. The current History section only covers events up to 2014, which is around when most of the events of the Controversies section occurred (apart from the "homophobia" paragraph, which is trivial and non-noteworthy in any case).
I also want to propose trimming the section itself, as the level of detail is WP:UNDUE for the article (it amounts to almost half the article by word count). Here is how I would propose trimming:
- Not done
I think it is better for it to be separate to avoid confusion Theknoledgeableperson(talk)
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Boycott campaign and factory relocation
In the early 2010s, a The Court of Justice of the European Union ruled in 2010 that SodaStream was not entitled to claim a "Made in Israel" exemption from EU customs payments for products manufactured in the West Bank because Israeli settlements in the West Bank are outside the territorial scope of the EC–Israel Agreement.[6][7][8][9] In January 2014, Oxfam accepted the resignation of Scarlett Johansson, an American actress, as ambassador for that organisation, a role she had held for eight years, after she became a brand ambassador for SodaStream. Oxfam has stated that "businesses, such as SodaStream, that operate in settlements further the ongoing poverty and denial of rights of the Palestinian communities that we work to support"[10] and opposes all trade with the settlements citing their illegality under international law.[11] Johansson reportedly resigned because of "a fundamental difference of opinion in regards to the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement".[10] In her statement she described SodaStream as "not only committed to the environment but to building a bridge to peace between Israel and Palestine, supporting neighbours working alongside each other, receiving equal pay, equal benefits and equal rights".[10] SodaStream CEO Daniel Birnbaum also accused Oxfam of supporting the BDS movement against Israel as a whole, a charge Oxfam denied, saying that "this is about trade from the settlements" and specific to settlements outside Israel's pre-1967 border.[12][13] which Oxfam states, due to their location, pose an obstacle to any future two-state solution.[13] According to Birnbaum, the boycott had no impact on the growth rate of SodaStream, and he said, all SodaStream products sold in Norway, Sweden and Finland are manufactured in China.[13]
Human Rights Watch stated that "It is impossible to ignore the Israeli system of unlawful discrimination, land confiscation, natural resource theft, and forced displacement of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, where SodaStream is located".[15][16][17] The United Church of Canada launched a campaign to boycott SodaStream products manufactured in the West Bank.[18]
Birnbaum said that the factories are apolitical and Supporters of the factory cited the West Bank's high unemployment rate and low GDP as evidence the jobs were badly needed. Opponents argued that the small number of jobs provided by the factories in the settlements did not outweigh the effect the Israeli presence had on the Palestinian economy.[23] Others argued that SodaStream was exploiting local cheap labour.[24][25] Workers' incomes at the factory were substantially above the 1450 shekel/month Palestinian Authority minimum wage.[13] All but one of the Palestinian employees interviewed by The Christian Science Monitor supported Johansson's stance and opposed a boycott of SodaStream, stating that a boycott would only hurt them.[1] One Palestinian employee said he was ashamed to work for SodaStream and felt like a "slave" working on an assembly line for twelve hours a day.[1] Another Palestinian employee interviewed by Reuters reported that: "Most of the managers are Israeli, and West Bank employees feel they can't ask for pay rises or more benefits because they can be fired and easily replaced."[1][26] In December 2014, Harvard University Dining Services halted SodaStream machine purchases for its dining facilities due to demonstrations by the Harvard College Palestine Solidarity Committee and the Harvard Islamic Society.[27] A few days later, however, Harvard's President Drew Faust reversed the decision, claiming she had not been aware of it in the first place.[28][29] Then provost, Alan Garber wrote, "Harvard University's procurement decisions should not and will not be driven by individuals' views of highly contested matters of political controversy." Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, writing in the Jerusalem Post said that students should have boycotted the machines, rather than asking for their removal.[30]
In July 2014, SodaStream fired 60 Palestinian workers after they filed a complaint SodaStream announced that its factory in Ma'ale Adumim would be closed by the end of 2015 in order to save $9 million in production costs. The plant's operations were transferred to a new factory in Lehavim, where it reportedly
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I'd be happy to discuss other ideas for which parts should be trimmed and which parts shouldn't be trimmed. But I think we can all agree the current version is not ideal. Thanks! DAK1980 (talk) 08:30, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
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- DAK1980, I agree with your proposed edits, except for the paragraph on the responses of Human Rights Watch and United Church of Canada, which seemed more significant than other comments in that section. The chronology may need to be reworked a bit, but in general I think the history is in better shape without the less relevant facts. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 23:01, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Grand'mere Eugene: Thank you - your approach in implementing my proposal was sensible. I hope you won't mind getting pinged in future requests here, which will most likely be initiated by a colleague of mine. Thanks again! DAK1980 (talk) 09:32, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
