Talk:The Chronicles of Narnia

There is a hidden note in the criticism section indicating that the section has been discussed at length on the talk page. I don't see that discussion anywhere. Has it been archived? Can anyone point me to its location? Thank you. SunCrow (talk) 17:01, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Did you check the four archives? Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:09, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

The criticism section is far too long. I also question the notability of the entire "Accusations of gender stereotyping" sub-section. It appears to fail WP:Fringe and WP:Undue, given that it contains extremist terminology like "gender stereotypes" to describe the ordinary behavior of adolescent girls, and it gives undue credence and weight to the fringe view that gender norms/roles are somehow bad, even though the vast majority of people in the world regard gender norms as a good thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chideegwen (talk • contribs) 15:54, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

It's one thing to disagree with a piece of feminist criticism, but the idea that the term "gender stereotypes" is "extremist terminology" reveals you don't have much contact with the world of literary criticism these days. I can assure you critiques of Lewis's ideas about gender in general are not few, and it shouldn't be surprising to find some attaching to the Chronicles. —VeryRarelyStable (talk) 22:03, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

gender stereotypes were invented sometime in the 2000's to 2010's. before that, gender was a genetic thing. The film and books are not based on futurists. they are based on an old book. should they be whitewashed? Are you trying to change history? Autumn Wind (talk) 09:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

There are so many confusions packed into this comment that I'm not going to bother untangling them. —VeryRarelyStable 12:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I was going to delete my stupid rant but I don't know if that would be rude/proper. Autumn Wind (talk) 21:56, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

So, every time I try to include the a reference to "Further Up, Further In" by the Waterboys, someone deletes it. Here is the most recent version that you deleted :

The song "Further Up, Further In" from the album Room to Roam by Scottish-Irish folk-rock band The Waterboys is heavily influenced by The Chronicles of Narnia, with the title coming from a passage in The Last Battle. C. S. Lewis is acknowledged in the liner notes as an influence.

The reason you gave was "Odd Linking." I don't know if you meant "discuss on Talk" here or on the page for The Chronicles of Narnia. I see now that the song "Further Up, Further In" does not have its own Wikipedia entry; I thought it did. The other links resolve so far as I can tell. I do not know how to cite the liner notes of a CD. (Actually, my earlier attempts to use the citation generation tools even for conventional books and journals have resulted in disaster.) The Wikipedia entry for Room to Roam does acknowledge C.S. Lewis as the source of the song title, and no, I did not write that entry.

I suppose it is improper to link to The Chronicles of Narnia within that article, and C.S. Lewis will have already been linked previously by this point. So, if I change the entry to the following, will you allow it to stand?

The song "Further Up, Further In" from the album Room to Roam by Scottish-Irish folk-rock band The Waterboys is heavily influenced by The Chronicles of Narnia. The title is taken from a passage in The Last Battle, and one verse of the song describes sailing to the end of the world to meet a king, similar to the ending of Voyage of the Dawn Treader. C. S. Lewis is explicitly acknowledged as an influence in the liner notes of the 1990 compact disc.

Pciszek (talk) 21:08, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. My talk page says to talk on the talk page of the article in question, so I've moved this here. The linking looks good now and the copy is much more clear.

There are other works that are based on elements of the Chronicles. The Roar of Love is based on the first book, and there are other works. I'm not sure we want a WP:COATRACK of all works that are based on, quote from, or allude to one of the books, but I'll open if for discussion. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:10, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I would suggest that having the Narnia reference on the Room to Roam article is fine if displayed within the appropriate section. However, I would refrain from adding such cultural references to the The Chronicles of Narnia article unless it is of actual significance, rather than "based on, quote from, or allude to" as Walter Görlitz mentioned (WP:HTRIVIA). — Christopher, Sheridan, OR (talk) 04:24, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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Major spoiler in the description of the article! I was looking forward to reading the series but thank you now I know Narnia is destroyed in the last book? 166.181.81.251 (talk) 12:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps you should fully read a book or book series before examining its Wikipedia article. If it's any consolation (and here's another spoiler—read further at your own risk), it was never truly Narnia anyway. pillowcrow 17:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

If I get my laptop back from the mender's before anyone gets to it I'll do it myself, but no, "Janis" [sic in IP edit summary] does not have a cameo appearance in Prince Caspian. This article is about the books, not the films, and in the book the necromancy spell is thwarted before Jadis returns. I'm astonished it's gone uncorrected for two days. —VeryRarelyStable 01:44, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

I have removed the word "subtly" in the lede, where it read "...Christian theology subtly interwoven..." In my opinion, the interweaving is hardly subtle. For instance, Aslan's reassurance to Lucy at the end of her final alive visit to Narnia (Dawn Treader?) that he is present in our world, just under a different name, seems hardly subtle. And the religious allegories in The Last Battle come fast and furious. However, this is arguably WP:OR by me, as well as by whoever put in the "subtly" word in the first place. Which leads me to: there must be considerable discussion in literary criticism of the works on this topic. Should we cite it instead? We do of course have a Christian Themes section further down, but it refers more to Lewis' avowed intent and the reaction of Christians. Martinp (talk) 21:37, 16 October 2025 (UTC)