Talk:Twelve-Day War

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I would like to formally request to change Muhammad al-Ghamari's status from wounded in action to assassinated please to avoid any misleading information that he is still alive, thank you.

 Not done: He was not assassinated during the war. Day Creature (talk) 18:27, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

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"Change '700 Mossad agents arrested' to 'Iran claimed it arrested 700 Mossad agents'"

"Change '5 Mossad agents executed' to 'the Iran claimed it executed 5 Mossad agents'"

"Change 'israel killed civilians' to 'there were civilian casualties on both countries, while the IRGC specificly targeted civilian targets in israel such as Soroka medical center'" ~2026-34551-57 (talk) 13:09, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done--the first two edit requests are already properly attributed as "per Iran" in the infobox (the only place where these specific numbers/claims appear, although there's also some properly attributed statements of Iran's claims regarding Mossad activity in the body), the proposed change is redundant. The 3rd request is unclear, as there is no text on the page reading "Israel killed civilians". _signed, Rosguill ^talk 13:53, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

The result of the 12-Day War can be described as Tactical Israeli Victory or Israeli victory as per the events that have occured since it's end. This is supported by the articles that claim significant damage and destruction to Iran like. https://www.timesofisrael.com/irans-military-degraded-by-12-day-war-with-israel-but-still-has-significant-capabilities/ https://www.iiss.org/online-analysis/online-analysis/2025/07/how-12-days-have-changed-iran/ https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/fastthinking/the-big-lessons-from-12-days-of-war-with-iran/ While after that Al Jazeera went on to include the 12-Day War to the Prelude to the 2026 Iran war in https://www.aljazeera.com/editorial/2026/2/28/nine-months-after-12-day-war-us-israel-seek-to-topple-irans-leaders In the infobox the above info should be added along with the summary with bullet points-

• 2025 US strikes on Iran
• 2025-2026 Iranian Internal Crisis begins,
• Hostilities resume with the 2026 Iran War

Kgeo2.0 (talk) 08:22, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

The first link is to an AP piece.

ISSS is the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

The Atlantic Council is the Atlantic Council.

So at best it's a tactical victory, and even then the support could be improved. Selbstporträt (talk) 15:02, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

ye it is a tactical victory. So do we have an agreement on this? If your answer is yes, please do change it. If not, please tell why. Kgeo2.0 (talk) 15:05, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

I said "at best" your sources supported a tactical victory. I did not wish to imply you were right. I was rather suggesting you needed better support. Have you looked at the support already on the page?

Besides, warboxes don't stand alone. Like leads, they need to be discussed on the page. If only because most of our readers don't have access to them. Selbstporträt (talk) 17:34, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

I cant actually change the main body of the text as I am not an extended confirmed user and hence if you could do it, that would be a major help as I consider my points valid. Regarding stronger sources, I found: https://idsa.in/publisher/issuebrief/the-12-day-iran-israel-war-and-reverberations-in-west-asia states in its analysis that the Israeli war effort did cause alot of damage to Iran, degraded Iranian capabilities and exposed the weakness and strengths of Iran to its opposing powers. The opening statements of the article Iran internal crisis (2025-present)'s opening statements state it for the Twelve Day War to be directly responsible or to be a major reason for the domestic crisis for erupting. The Twelve-Day War ceasefire too states for the expiration date of the ceasefire to be 28th Fehb 2026, i.e., directly stating that the Iran War was a return to hostillities and hence it does prove my point of it being a prelude to the Iran War. https://www.britannica.com/event/2026-Iran-war too states "Iran’s posture was in a weakened state after years of sanctions, recent destabilizing protests, damage inflicted during the 12-day War with Israel in June 2025" calling it a prelude to the 2026 war and confirming the vast amounts of damage inflicted on Iran to be severely high and we ourselves assesing and seeing the damage can consider it as a tactical victory for Israel. Was that convincing? Kgeo2.0 (talk) 10:03, 10 July 2026 (UTC)