Talk:Ukrainian Insurgent Army
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Polish bias
Added a [disputed – discuss] after cites 11 and 12, not enough cites and are somewhat biased. There is far more nuance than the cites claim. Example of evidence to dispute the cites - "What is historically indisputable is that prior to World War II Poland occupied western Ukraine which was not its ethnographic Polish territory. The Poles imposed a policy to pacify the Ukrainians and colonize the area with Poles. Ukrainians through the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and other formations fought that occupation and those policies. They killed representatives of the occupying regime. What is also historically indisputable is that during the war, the OUN sought a reconciliation with the Polish people and Polish government in exile in order to fight the Soviets."
https://krytyka.com/en/articles/we-need-discussion-oun-and-upa-without-labeling-and-stereotypes
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has not issued a formal apology for the Volyn massacres, but he has participated in joint reconciliation events with Polish leaders. The topic remains a sensitive issue in Polish-Ukrainian relations, particularly regarding the formal recognition of the events.
Even today, Poland and Ukraine have to fight Moscow based Imperialism to survive. Tito Jugoslavchenko (talk) 05:17, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
(Pencilceaser123 (talk) 04:55, 30 October 2025 (UTC) here) use the add topic button, this just makes talking wierd, but most of what you said isnt relavent to what you added, you added a disputed tag to the fact that the masseceres happened.
- Thanks, I am not an expert Wikipedia user, but, you miss the point, the Poles also conducted massacres and ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians. This is the bias. Even today, it is a contentious issue as stated by President Zelensky who is Jewish, may I remind you. The cites are biased to the Polish "view on history". There should be some balance to both sides of that contention. Maybe I just remove the tags and add a paragraph with the counterpoints with reliable cites ? Is that the best way to proceed and improve the article ? Tito Jugoslavchenko (talk) 05:32, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Counter points" aren't needed. Perhaps it deserves some content on the page. But this page is about the Ukrainian insurgent army, who committed massacres against poles. Not the poles. Those massacres could be mentioned. But probably not in the lead Pencilceaser123 (talk) 06:15, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Really, they are not needed ? But there is some serious context lacking that does not give any reader of the article the true reasons for the actions due to parties on both sides.Do your opinions on context really matter ? Extra cites are needed, you cannot base your "facts" on one cite in this contentious issue. Tito Jugoslavchenko (talk) 22:27, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Cites for what? That is happened. Plenty exist, go onto the page for the massacres. And the apology obviously has sources. But the polish ones aren't not needed in the "lead" part Pencilceaser123 (talk) 02:08, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Really, they are not needed ? But there is some serious context lacking that does not give any reader of the article the true reasons for the actions due to parties on both sides.Do your opinions on context really matter ? Extra cites are needed, you cannot base your "facts" on one cite in this contentious issue. Tito Jugoslavchenko (talk) 22:27, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Counter points" aren't needed. Perhaps it deserves some content on the page. But this page is about the Ukrainian insurgent army, who committed massacres against poles. Not the poles. Those massacres could be mentioned. But probably not in the lead Pencilceaser123 (talk) 06:15, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
May/June 2026 PL-UA dispute
- Shouldn't we add a mention of this to this article? The current version of this article doesn't even mention the name Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
- Ukrainian officials criticize Polish president's decision to strip Zelenskyy of honor
- Polish President Karol Nawrocki has decided to strip Volodymyr Zelenskyy of Poland’s highest state honor
- By CLAUDIA CIOBANU Associated Press and VOLODYMYR YURCHUK Associated Press
- June 20, 2026, 5:22 AM
- WARSAW, Poland -- A decision by Polish President Karol Nawrocki to strip Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelenskyy of Poland’s highest state honor was beneficial to Moscow, which has an interest in seeing Kyiv in conflict with its allies, Ukrainian officials said.
- Nawrocki announced on Friday that he will strip Zelenskyy of the Order of the White Eagle over the Ukrainian leader’s decision to name a military unit after a Ukrainian paramilitary organization accused of massacring Poles during World War II.
- Former Polish President Andrzej Duda bestowed the award on Zelenskyy in 2023 for services to security, resilience and the defense of human rights.
- Zelenskyy issued a decree on May 26 naming a military unit of Ukraine’s Special Operations Forces after the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, or UPA, which operated during the 1940s and 1950s and has been accused in Poland of mass killings.
- “For the majority of Polish society, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army remains above all a formation responsible for cruel crimes against the citizens of the Polish Republic during World War II,” Nawrocki said in a 13-minute address on social media.
- The decision to revoke the honor did not mean Poland’s support for Ukraine in its defense against Russia would decrease, Nawrocki said.
- ~2026-20625-89 (talk) 15:30, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
There's a section Poland–Ukraine relations#2026–present, which can be cross-referenced here. Boud (talk) 10:21, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
Let's not paint UPA as some kind of a monolith organisation
Some people treat UPA like a monolith, but reality is different. There are a lot of pro-German UPA factions, and given it was too decentralised, misleading is dangerous. MadNomadist (talk) 03:53, 2 December 2025 (UTC)
Add "Cursed Soldiers" as an ally
It should be included in the Infobox. ~2026-20071-83 (talk) 20:15, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request, 29 June 2026
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Category:Anti-fascism in Ukraine should be removed, as OUN-UPA was a fascist organization. ~2026-37402-53 (talk) 00:23, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
Done Day Creature (talk) 01:41, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
