Talk:Underwear

There wasn't an image for a bra in the table, so I added File:Buestenhalter-2.jpg to the table. Was this a good choice? It does represent a fairly common example of a bra shape, and it adequately shows the breast coverage, I would like to say. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 22:24, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

is everyone ok with me to make a separate entry in the Types section? ChecksMix (talk) 22:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

I would like to say that we should remove any unnecessary use of the word "panties" (necessary might mean clarifying that it is a colloquial term that exists, or explaning the etymology of a word like "pantyhose"). "Panties" is a term that carries a lot of cultural baggage, as well as being too informal I find in the context of a Wikipedia article. Thank you. Ohiodumbledore (talk) 00:41, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Not going to happen. The article about that type of underwear is actually called Panties. Meters (talk) 06:57, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

This article is not about "panties". This article is about underwear in general. "Panties" is a seperate Wikipedia article. Your comment would perhaps make sense on the "panties" article, however, this article is about "panties" specifically. Tell me, why don't you have anything against the term "panties"? Ohiodumbledore (talk) 13:10, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

I'm starting to think you're using this account after your initial registration for editing at Simple English Wiki to continue your efforts from your IP editing. Just WP:DROPTHESTICK. Jalen Barks (Woof) 17:11, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

I changed it up so ai detectors would find it human. it says "Hello, thanks for replying.

I’m not trying to start trouble. I would like to changed some of the wording because the article reads weirdly informal in places, and I think neutral phrasing fits a general overview better. Stuff like “dirty panties” feels sensational and can come off as fetishistic rather than explanatory. I think wording such as “worn underwear” or “used undergarments” would fit better in those spots, as it says the same thing without the somewhat lurid tone.

Should you disagree with a specific change, point to the exact reason why you want it kept that way. I will give my thinking and we can find wording we both find to be the best. And about the other account thing, I have edited on Simple English before, but I’m not hiding multiple accounts here, if you think otherwise, say what evidence you have and we can sort it out calmly.

My aim is to have a neutral article that’s useful to readers." Ohiodumbledore (talk) 19:57, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Eliminating "panties" from the article is not appropriate. This is an article about all types of underwear, and as I already pointed out, panties is what the Wikipedia article about that one particular type of underwear is called. There is no valid reason to exclude that term, any more than there would be to exclude the terms briefs, boxer briefs, bikini briefs, g-string, camisole, corset, bra, or any of the many other underwear terms used in the article. Meters (talk) 20:27, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is inconsistent. The article titled “trousers” favors the British use of the term as opposed to the American word “pants” - though within said article the American terminology for the garment is explained. On the other hand, the article “Panties” favors that for female underpants term over the equivalent UK term “knickers”. ChecksMix (talk) 21:05, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

What's your point? Yes Wikipedia uses both American and British (or other) spellings and terms. We mention the alternate term "knickers" in this article. What does this have to do with the OP's request to eliminate the term "panties"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meters (talk • contribs) 21:09, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Firstly, OP didn’t say to eliminate it, just minimize it.

The Trousers/Panties articles I brought up because one, they didn’t go with some common neutral term and two, didn’t come to the titles that they do have

by objective means - for instance, there are more American English speakers than British ones but the title “Trousers” won the day. OP on the other hand does have a coherent methodology for, once again, minimizing the use of the term. ChecksMix (talk) 21:59, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

I still have no idea what your point is. Do you want to eliminate or minimize the use of "panties"? Do you want to replace its usage with something else? Do you just want to complaint that Wikipedia doesn't consistently use one English language variant?

Which language variant Wikipedia articles are written in is completely irrelevant to the OP's request, and that fact that Wikipedia has not chosen to use only one variant for all articles is irrelevant to this discussion. The OP seems to find "panties" to be an offensive term, or at best an informal colloquial term, but it is not. It is commonly used on Wikipedia, and in fact happens to be the variant used for its article. There is no valid rationale for minimizing the use of "panties" in this article. Meters (talk) 22:15, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Pantis is widely considered and informal term, I'd say. Multiple dictionaries states that "panties" is informal as well. See

https://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/panties

and

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/panty Ohiodumbledore (talk) 23:12, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure how you can distinguish "unnecessary use" from "necessary use" of a very common word but is there a reason you didn't just make some editorial changes and instead decided to come here to debate it? I think what some of the editors here are reacting to is actually having a discussion on the word "panties" as if it is something controversial. Usually when an editor wants to make a change in an article, they just do it and don't start a discussions about it. As long as you are not rewriting this article or making major changes, I think it's okay for you to change the use of "panties" with a similar word without seeking permission first. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:24, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Hey, I do agree myself. I brought it up here because when I tried to change the wording, it was reverted, so I made a post to make sure the edit would be received constructively. I don’t intend to debate the word itself, I just wanted to bring it up so those who would revert the changes might get why it's probably agood idea to change the wording. Ohiodumbledore (talk) 11:47, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

I mean diapers are technically a version of underwear. And I kind of was surprised not to see them in this article. You know I think a small blurb talking about them and then linking to the main article would be appropriate. ~2026-12088-48 (talk) 17:10, 23 February 2026 (UTC)