User talk:Liz

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Recommended reading for editors who are upset RIGHT NOW!:
Tips for the angry new user - Gamaliel
Staying cool when the editing gets hot!

If you came here just to insult me, I will delete your comments without a reply.
And if I wasn't involved, personal attacks clearly warrant a block.

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and everyone else's input is merely an obstacle to overcome is an accurate summary of how you ended up in this position.

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Well said!Liz Read! Talk!
No matter how cute you are, expect no quarter in the cruel world of Wikipedia.


Wondering if I should report a potential WP:SOCK problem at DYK

Liz, I know reporting WP:SOCK behavior requires a certain kind of evidence. I'm not sure if that exists in this case, and thought I would get an admin's opinion before pursuing a formal report. One of the hooks I reviewed (still technically waiting for a reply), Template:Did you know nominations/City of Oaks Marathon, was recently rejected in this edit by user Sodanight. This user is a newly created account. See Special:Contributions/Sodanight. They also approved Template:Did you know nominations/Hopton, Derbyshire. I overturned their rejection at City of Oaks Marathon because I am still the reviewer and the nominator still has time to address/fix the issues under policy. In checking the /Hopton, Derbyshire review I discovered that it was not compliant with WP:DYKCRIT's guidelines for time. I strongly suspect that the Sodanight account was created by User:U1ajl5xge2 (see Special:Contributions/U1ajl5xge2) who nominated Hopton, Derbyshire at DYK in order that they might approve their own hook and avoid being caught as a late nomination. Am I crazy for thinking this, or this something I can legitimately report? Best.4meter4 (talk) 04:57, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

My rude comments back in December 2024

Hi Liz, I wanted to take some time to write you this note. I sincerely apologize for having lost my temper and yelling and swearing at you back in December 2024. It was very rude of me and I lost my cool, I really apologize. I better understand the rules and functioning of Wikipedia now and will not repeat this behavior. I was incorrectly associated with ConsumersDistributingonline even though there was no proof linking me to them, you can see the Global unlock request here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global/2025-w43#h-Global_unlock_for_TitCrisse-Requests_for_global_(un)lock_and_(un)hiding-20251026100000

I wanted to know if you could please help me in undeleting my draft on Pedro Cuperman? Might you also be able to please give me back access to my other 2 accounts, Pramod8375 & Mamani1990? They were also locked for the same reason as TitCrisse, lock evasion, but this was incorrect as I was never part of ConsumersDistributingonline. Thank you, regards, TitCrisse (talk) 23:29, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Category:November 2025 sports events in Chile

Category:November 2025 sports events in Chile was created (with a CfD banner) during the discussion of similar categories in the now closed Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 October 21#Category:2020 in Chilean sport by month (to merge). Is it possible to interpret the decision to also merge that newly created category as it has been tagged? I've not seen that situation before and emptying it would look like out-of-process emptying if I did it. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:12, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Solved by @Fayenatic london. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 23:04, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ante Čedo Martinić

Hello Liz, would you mind re-opening this discussion? I'd like to add several additional sources to the discussion such as and an eight year anniversary memorial of his passing . Thank you! SportingFlyer T·C 13:36, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

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"Schmear" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Schmear has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 November 4 § Schmear until a consensus is reached. —Myceteae🍄‍🟫 (talk) 17:47, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

FYI: Notifying you as the closer of the recent Schmear AfD. There was some disagreement among participants about how to handle the redirect following your close. —Myceteae🍄‍🟫 (talk) 17:48, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Liz, new email about a recent AfD

Hello, Liz. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Hey, Liz! I'm having doubt on something about Wikipedia's policies. I've sent you an e-mail about it. Deathnotekll2 (talk) 06:16, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Deathnotekll2,
Thanks for the notice. I'm not sure when I'll get to my Inbox but I will look for your email message. Liz Read! Talk! 06:19, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
Hi, Liz! You have a new e-mail. The situation I discuss in it is quite surprising. Deathnotekll2 (talk) 01:05, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
Hello, Deathnotekll2,
Why can't you just describe the situation here on my user talk page? Is there a reason why this information has to be kept confidential? Liz Read! Talk! 01:50, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
Maybe. I used the e-mail because we were previously talking there. Anyway, as you requested, I'll post future replies to new topics here (as the e-mail has already been sent). Deathnotekll2 (talk) 01:58, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
Joshua Johnatan has attacked me repeatedly for proposing an RfC regarding a source from the same organization as "Vimalaramsi's". His behavior can be seen in the RfC proposal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#RfC%3A_Request_for_comment_on_self-published_source_used_to_support_unverifiable_claims
RfCs and AfDs should not be a place for personal attacks, and yet this user is relentless in doing so. I have not provoked him or invited him to the discussion.
(This is a follow-up to the previous e-mail, in which the situation hadn't escalated that quickly). I have sent you this talk page message because the e-mail system failed. Deathnotekll2 (talk) 08:07, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
What exactly is the "personal attack"? See WP:ASPERSIONS, and your comment at User talk:Deathnotekll2#About some non-notable figures that have been put to the test of Wikipedia's Notoriety are fighting back to retaliate through their many likely proxies. That's expected of any ardent follower and honestly, predictable. You could, and should, have noticed that Vimalarmasi is dead, and that I'm a Zen-Buddhist, who's interest is in the history and interpretation of meditation. Accusing me of a WP:COI is far-fletched. And who exactly are the "many likely proxies"? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:38, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
That's my talk page. I have not nominally cited you anywhere on that quotation, highlighted in green.
You have also posted your own personal opinions in these talk pages, had people affiliated with you send me multiple unsolicited warnings in what I viewed as veiled collective intimidation and, in the end, also accused me of being an WP:SPA with no evidence.
In no other space in Wikipedia have I attempted to include personal opinions of any nature: not in Article talk pages, not AfDs or RfCs.
I work as a professional editor here, and policy will be applied to a religious leader and his pages weather his supporters - whoever they are - like it or not. They are not above investigation or discussion.
That's it. I am not favorable or unfavorable to your religion or anyone else's.
It's quite surprising this article, with these sources, affiliated with this specific organization would mobilize such a great effort against its takedown, discussion or scrutiny in Wikipedia. Deathnotekll2 (talk) 20:27, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
I suggest you take a good look in the mirror, and ask yourself: are there really "people affiliated with you [who] send me multiple unsolicited warnings," or is it that your behaviour invites those warnings? Also, you've been warned now sevearly times against WP:ASPERSIONS, yet you state [you] had people affiliated with you send me multiple unsolicited warnings in what I viewed as veiled collective intimidation. Please provide evidence that those editors are "affiliated" with me, and that this is a collective endeavor to intimidate you. If not, consider the possibility that you don't have (yet) what it takes to contribute in a meaningfull way to Wikipedia. Maybe, just maybe, if so many people tell you that your behaviour needs some improvement, then maybe those people have a point, and show you something you're not aware of (yet). Maybe. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 21:31, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
Very well, I'll let you have the last say as you wish.
No further comments will be added by me, as this discussion is getting disrespectful to the editor/admin who is within the rights of her own user space. Enough escalation.
Let further discussion to this topic be made in more appropriate forums. Deathnotekll2 (talk) 23:58, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Tarik Sadouma

HI Liz, Thanks for closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tarik Sadouma. I believe I have merged the relevant information into The Unsafe House and completed the steps for a merge. There still remains this improper Draft:Tarik Sadouma. It has been hanging around since October 16th and was live at the same time the article was. Can you direct me to the steps for removing this draft? Thanks. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:43, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, WomenArtistUpdates,
Thanks for your help with merging articles. That's a task that doesn't get a lot of attention. As for the draft, there is no CSD criteria that applies to draft versions of main space articles so the options I see are let it expire as a CSD G13 in a few months or turn the draft into a redirect to the main space article. Either of those options sound appropriate here? Liz Read! Talk! 01:49, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
 Done Thanks Liz! I picked the redirect option :) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:05, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Message about your AFD warning to me

@Liz Hello Liz I hope you don't mind me contacting you here as well as my response on my userpage but I am quite concerned about the warning about me getting my AFD clerking privileges revoked and I don't know if you would check my userpage for a response. I wanted to ask why did you say that I need to stop closing early after that close? The XFD closure tool listed the timings for Modus Cup as green and I have now checked the timings with a calendar more times than I can count now and it was 7 days since the afd was opened on 30th October at 15:20 and when I closed the AFD on the 6th November at 22:00 and that is within the rules nad your comment that they should be Open at least 7 days. I would also like to ask if I could do snow closures once I get more expereince early as the rules allow for that sort of thing if I recall(which will be quite a while as A I don't want to do them at the moment just in the future and B alot of the AFDS don't meet that or are closed by Admins or non admin closers before I get the chance so getting experience will take a while even after I am eventually wanting to do it again.) GothicGolem29 (Talk) 17:07, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Please can I get a response to this @Liz? GothicGolem29 (Talk) 12:41, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dušan Janićijević (athlete)

I usually find your AFD closures to be excellent, but in this case I'm very surprised at the outcome of "redirect". There's two editors saying "keep" along with three "redirect", but none of the those arguing redirect had any sort of rebuttal to the keep argument at all, even though they were all pinged. In fact, it seems only one of them even saw the sources, which were pretty obviously SIGCOV. Could we get a relist here? Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:14, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, BeanieFan11,
This one was a close call. There was a point some months ago where I got the message from our AFD participants that I was doing too much relisting of discussions so I've been trying to do more closures, even when opinion is divided. Let me think about this tonight. Liz Read! Talk! 00:05, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
Any update on this? Or should I take it to DRV? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:51, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
Have you thought about this yet, or should I open a DRV? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:34, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
I would open a DRV since its been over a week since you received a reply. Logoshimpo (talk) 00:35, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Your WP:SD message being sent to the wrong person

Hi Liz, I recently found a speedy deletion message on my talk page although i did not create the article I just moved it back into draft space as it was unfit for wikipedia like how it was done many times before. Could you please put the message on the correct users talk page. Thank you for understanding. ‪Theknoledgeableperson‬ (talk)  Preceding undated comment added 21:10, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

CfD of Category:American politicians of Middle Eastern descent

Hey Liz, regarding your reversion of my closure, Marcocapelle has posted a comment saying why the discussion need not be kept open. I also agree with that reasoning and would appreciate if you could chime in there. If you have no objection, I would like to close it and list it for action as before. Thanks! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 07:45, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Bunnypranav,
I was just heading to bed so I probably won't see the discussion until tomorrow. I trust you two to use your judgment and do the right thing. But thanks for letting me know. Liz Read! Talk! 07:51, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll go ahead and close it then. :) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:58, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

Reversing the deletion of 2 figure skating pages

Hello Liz,

Could you please reverse the deletion of these pages?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Jean-Hans_Fourneaux&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=C%C3%A9lina+Fradji&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist

https://web.archive.org/web/20240203034636/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Hans_Fourneaux

https://web.archive.org/web/20230712233902/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9lina_Fradji

As you will note on this page, they are the only ice dance team with red links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%9326_ISU_Grand_Prix_of_Figure_Skating#Ice_dance

They are international level competitors, they are absolutely eligible to have a page. They're gonna rise in prominence too, they were juniors previously and this is now their first season in seniors.

They were 5th at the Junior World Championships last year: https://skatingscores.com/fra/dance/celina_fradji_jeanhans_fourneaux/

They were ranked the #3 junior team last year: https://results.isu.org/events/jgp2024/jgpsdance.htm

And they are currently ranked #23 in the world (this ranking has juniors and seniors combined): https://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsdance.htm

(Apologies for anything I might have done wrong. I'm new to Wikipedia, I created an account just for this. Thank you.)  Preceding unsigned comment added by Cil2025 (talkcontribs) 22:28, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

Edit war and unsubstantiated reverts

Hello @Liz.

I am writing to raise an issue regarding a persistent conflict with User:@User4926 on the article of Zagreb. Despite engaging in a discussion on the article's Talk page Talk:Zagreb, User4926 continues to revert my edits without clear justification or new discussion.

- User4926 is a pretty frequent editor on Zagreb page. They mostly edit policital administration paragraph which started this whole dilemma. You see, the paragraph was untouched since 2022, and it seemed that they were upset over the imagery on that paragraph which represented Zagreb’s rich historical monuments. He deleted them. I reverted the edit, he deleted and left a message on talk page. I reverted the imagery, they wrote a Bible on how the imagery has nothing to do with the paragraph, I moved them to another paragraph so they aren’t on the same paragraph, I kept quiet until User decided to remove them again from the new paragraph with the reasoning “ Deleted images as per discussion”. No discussion was discussed about that. [this dif] - The information I added is supported by years of untouching changes for those 3 imagery. Those are cultural and historical monuments of high value to Zagreb’s page. I believe it contributes to a more balanced and up-to-date article. - User continues to revert my changes without addressing the sources I provided or engaging in meaningful discussion. This seems to be happening in violation of the [mention specific Wikipedia policies, such as WP:NPOV (Neutral Point of View) or WP:AGF (Good Faith), which neither of them suits the reasoning for this editor. It seems like they keep pushing some source of Political Agenda, since they are full-time editors of We Can! (Croatia). Not to mention, the user was already warned about their edit by another user which left a message on User4926 Talk Page. - I have tried to explain my edits on the Talk page User talk:User4926 but the user has not been receptive to further dialogue.

Wikipedia is an internet encyclopedia for everyone to use and edit. No reason to delete someone’s work because you simply don’t like it.

I request the assistance of an administrator to review this issue and help mediate a resolution. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely, PublicityVote (talk) 02:25, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello.
Just to add context to the message:
I am not a member of any political party, and if I ever were, I would make it clear on my user page and this conversation. I edit articles of people of all political backgrounds.
I want the Zagreb Wikipedia article to be stable, neutral, factually correct and of good quality. It is not in my interest to have any edit warring on the article, and all my edits are made in good faith.
There is a discussion about this very topic, in which I laid all my arguments. As of now, the last message was left by me on October 26.
I am very sorry all of this this had to be brought up.
Best regards, User4926 (talk) 18:56, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
Edit: a compromise has been made. Consider this topic now irrelevant. Thanks User4926 (talk) 16:55, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Please complete AfD

After you removed the prod for Adam Brooks (wrestler) I have followed the instructions for a non registered account. Could you please complete it for me? Thanks. ~2025-32464-30 (talk) 03:09, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 November 2025

Wikipedia Research

Hello I'm a student from LUISS university in Rome and I'm working on a presentation based on wikipedia's crowdsourcing process and one part of the work is to put myself in the shoes of a wikipedia contributor and find out some feeling he receives when editing or writing pages. The questions I would like to receive answers on are the following:

1 What does the editor think and feel:

2 What does the editor say and do:

3 What does the editor hear and see:

4 What are is pains:

5 What are is gains (what does make him feel good when contributing):

thanks to whoever will participate in this survey :) Tartaluca (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Convection door talk page

I am little confused what happened to the talk page for Convection door. I created one at the old title since there wasn't a talk page and someone moved to page from Convection doors to Convection door but somewhere along the way the talk page got deleted. Katzrockso (talk) 22:43, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Katzrockso,
I think this is resolved now. A new editor renamed and moved the talk page (twice) and then it was deleted as an orphaned talk page. This is not uncommon, for some reason, inexperienced editors like to test their ability to move pages and sometimes they do so a dozen times. I think everything is back where it should be. Liz Read! Talk! 20:13, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! Sorry for the bother. Katzrockso (talk) 20:21, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Weird

I think Talk:Venezuelanalysis.com/Archive 1 was created by some kind of mistake. The actual edits are at Talk:Venezuelanalysis. I think Talk:Venezuelanalysis.com/Archive 1 can be deleted.

Also Talk:Covert incest/Archive 3 (wtf) can be deleted.

And Talk:Lubna Olayan/Temp.

Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 01:25, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Polygnotus,
I'll look into these. There does have to be a policy-based reason to delete a page and I'll see if there is one. Admins who delete pages "just because" find they aren't admins for much longer. Thanks for the alert though. Liz Read! Talk! 20:05, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
They all fall under db-a3 (no content) Polygnotus (talk) 20:24, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
In User:Liz/common.js there are these scripts:
importScript('User:Cameltrader/Advisor.js');
importScript('User:Scottywong/diffconverter.js');
importScript("User:Drilnoth/delresized.js");
importScript('installed15'); // Backlink: installed15
importScript('installed7'); // Backlink: installed7
In User:Liz/monobook.js
there is:
importScript('User:Scottywong/diffconverter.js'); //User:Scottywong/diffconverter.js Polygnotus (talk) 11:08, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Hey Liz (just a small complaint)

I noticed you alerted me about a speedy deletion of a redirect, I just wanted to say that I would like for you to stop giving me those alerts shane (talk to me if you want!) 19:39, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, shane,
No problem. The reason you get these notices is that when you draftify an article from main space to another namespace, you should tag the original page with a speedy deltion tag, CSD R2. If you take care of this step like you should, I should have no reason to also tag these pages and you won't receive any more notifications. The reason you get these reminders is to alert you that you should be tagging these pages R2 but they weren't tagged. If you start, I won't need to and problem solved. Sound good? Liz Read! Talk! 20:03, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
ok shane (talk to me if you want!) 20:04, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

I've noticed that a lot of the time you simply unlink deleted articles rather than removing them from navboxes and lists. Please fully remove them to save others the time of having to go back and do so. There is no reason to retain, for example, names of people without articles on lists of notable people. ♠PMC(talk) 20:06, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, PMC,
Sorry but I spend most of my daylight and night time hours working on this project. I delete hundreds of pages each day. I don't have time to check every single link to all of these pages. I think I will instead stop unlinking deleted pages if that would be a better solution. I was told when I was a new admin to remove all of the red links but if that is causing problems, I'll just stop unlinking them. Liz Read! Talk! 20:17, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
This response makes no sense. I assume you're using XFDcloser like everyone else? When I close an AfD using this tool, it automatically unlinks the article from all pages except those preceded with bullet links (ie, entries in lists and on navbox templates). Those links are then presented to me manually and I can click "keep item", "keep and request citation", or "remove". All I'm asking is that you click "remove" rather than unlink for lists and navboxes. PMC (talk) 20:43, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
I am once again asking you to simply click the "remove" button rather than unlinking non-notable people on lists and navboxes. I cannot understand your refusal to extend this courtesy to others considering all it takes is to click a different button on the same tool you are already using. PMC (talk) 04:05, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
Because I don't want to deal with your complaints, PMC, I don't do much work with AFD any more. It's easier for me to adjust and work on different areas of the project than try to accommodate your frequent demands. And I doubt you'll find any other admin who will also carry out your requests but for some reason you have focused on me even though I imagine all admins behave likewise to me. Good night. Liz Read! Talk! 04:13, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
It's really disappointing to see you respond this way. One request, asked a second time, is "frequent demands"? I don't have to ask other admins to do this, because they take the time to do the removals, as a courtesy to others. If you want to stop doing AfDs because someone politely asked you to click one button rather than the other, that strikes me as an unnecessary overreaction, but do as you like. PMC (talk) 05:00, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
Liz, I share PMC's disappointment, this isn't just one editor making special requests. Many editors have asked you politely to stop leaving delinked or redlinked items in lists, navigation templates, etc that are only supposed to include bluelinks. Please take the time to use your tools properly and remove these items appropriately. It's time to stop relying on what you were apparently taught many years ago, on the few occasions that I've seen other admins making this mistake I've simply pointed it out to them and they've changed their ways. You're receiving multiple complaints about this because you're the only one who refuses to change. –dlthewave 16:08, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
And my mind is boggled that you can't understand how much extra work this request involves. I delete hundreds of pages each day, some have 3, 10, 40, 100+ links to other articles, and you are asking me to check every single link here. I work on this project about 80 hours/week and I can't add another 20 hours for checking links on every article I delete. I think I will instead pass on my tasks to you two since this is so important to you. I'll send you an email outlining my responsibilities. Liz Read! Talk! 21:08, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
Another disappointing response. If you are closing so many AfDs that you cannot take the time to look at what you are de-linking and perform the task correctly, the solution is to take the time to do things correctly, even if it means you personally close fewer AfDs. The encyclopedia will survive, and others will thank you for not forcing them to waste their time tidying up after you - as I'm sure you're aware, you are not the only editor whose time is valuable. I am a volunteer just like you, so I will continue to allocate my time as I see fit. Nevertheless I look forward to your email. PMC (talk) 21:57, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
I've been on this platform for 12 years and had my share of disagreements but this dispute is unnecessarily unpleasant and I'm not sure why you are being so condescending. You don't like the way that I edit so I thought I would pass those duties along to you so that you have everything done exactly as you like. I thought this would be a solution to your complaint but you don't like this resolution either. I don't know what to do at this point except retire which I'm not ready to do yet. And, yes, I'm disappointed in you as well. Doesn't that feel horrible to read?Liz Read! Talk! 22:21, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

I think you all must be talking at cross-purposes with each other. Liz, I don't think anyone's asking you to go through and look at every single link every time you close an AfD: this is just about the rare case when the "keep/remove" dialog box pops up on XFDcloser, like in the picture on the right. It sounds like PMC and dlthewave just want you to click the "remove" button a little more often, which I think is a reasonable ask. I'm thinking part of the confusion may be that Liz does a lot of unlinking with the Twinkle tool, which (if I remember correctly) doesn't give the list-item removal option like XFDcloser does. PMC/dlthewave, would you mind listing some of the diffs that prompted this conversation? That way we can at least be on the same page in trying to find a way forward, because I'm sure no one wants anyone to retire or stop closing AfDs or anything like that. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:31, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

EW, here are a few just from the last couple days: , , , .
As dl and I have both said now, we are asking for Liz to hit the "remove" button when de-linking from lists and navboxes, both of which are almost always supposed to contain only blue links/notable items. If something has been deleted, there's no reason to leave it on those pages. Removing these items does not require looking at every single link a page has, just moving the mouse an inch to the side to click a different button.
Liz, I'm being condescending because you're being condescending. Your response to a clear, polite request for a smoother process has been to go on about your valuable time and workflow, exaggerate what's being asked of you, threaten to stop doing a task you self-assigned, then finally suggest you'll assign me something to do. None of that is a real proposal for a solution and you know it, so forgive me if I understand your tone as patronizing. PMC (talk) 22:50, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
Yes, as I suspected, those are all with Twinkle, which I've just confirmed doesn't offer any option to remove the whole list entry. That's presumably why Liz is so confused here, because she's not seeing any "keep"/"remove" button at all and is assuming that you want her to just check every link manually. There are a couple of other scripts that don't have this problem: I use User:Evad37/Xunlink, and I think Explicit just uses the "XFDC Unlink" button, both of which are built on XFDcloser rather than Twinkle. But yeah, I don't think Liz is just deliberately choosing to push the "keep" button when it isn't warranted. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:04, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
Okay, but then the obvious desired response to a polite request that you maybe don't understand the context for is to ask for clarification. If I'm talking about a "remove" button and you've never seen one on your screen, ask what that is. I did say that I assumed she was using XFDcloser (which I linked to), and she didn't say otherwise, so I was operating under the assumption she was looking at the same set of buttons as me and therefore understood what I meant. PMC (talk) 23:16, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
I don't disagree, but hopefully now we can find a solution. Liz, I think this is an issue with PRODs more than anything else. The next time you delete a PROD, instead of using the "Unlink" button, would you try using the "XFDC Unlink" button instead? (For me it's under "More"; it won't appear until after you delete the page.) This is the button that Explicit uses for PRODs, and while it has some problems of its own, it should at least take care of this issue. If you try that and don't like it, let me know and I can suggest something else. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:36, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

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Deletion review for Special.̇CSD log/BodhiHarp

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Special.̇CSD log/BodhiHarp. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. - BᴏᴅʜıHᴀᴙᴩ (talk, contributions) 06:00, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

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Thank you for letting me know. Maybe now you can explain to me what this page is for. Liz Read! Talk! 06:14, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

2027 Formula One World Championship

Hi, you deleted this page per a deletion discussion. I had requested it through WP:REFUND a couple of months ago to work on as there is enough information to expand it as a draft, and it will be relevant for mainspace within a couple months' time (and I want it to be ready before then). I never intended for it to be published to mainspace prior to January, and I tried to mention this in the discussion. Could you please return it to a draft? Electricmemory (talk) 15:59, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

I am actually quite disappointed it was deleted as it contained a huge amount of finished content, and myself and other's don't want that work to be lost and another person to recreate a blank draft before we can get this one back. Electricmemory (talk) 16:02, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
Should mention that the full article version of 2026 Formula One World Championship was created on 5th May 2024, more than a year and a half before the season actually began, and nobody had problems with its existence. Electricmemory (talk) 16:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
@Liz Penny for your thoughts? Electricmemory (talk) 03:24, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
Hello, Electricmemory,
Did you make a request at WP:REFUND? What did they say? Liz Read! Talk! 03:27, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
@Liz I thought to inquire with you first as you deleted the page this time around. Electricmemory (talk) 05:59, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
@Liz It's been dealt with at REFUND. Free to archive this or whatever Electricmemory (talk) 17:32, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Category:Test for category redirects

Question about your removal of the redirect in Category:Test for category redirects. What do you think about the result of the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 11#Category:Test for category redirects? —⁠andrybak (talk) 08:12, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Stale draft differences

Hey Liz, you just handled Draft:Anthony Graham. Would you mind taking a quick look at it and letting me know if it differed significantly from Draft:Anthony Graham (academic). I doubt it because if it had, it would have likely had edits to reset the clock, but I want to know if I continue to work on the disambiguated version, I won't be missing any additional information written about or using sources provided by another editor.

Thanks, Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 21:33, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Bobby Cohn
It looks like they are the same person. The lead sentence is an American educator, scholar, and academic administrator, currently serving as the Chancellor-Elect of the University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff (UAPB). which looks pretty much identical to the second draft. I'll go back and see who the main contributors to the page were. Liz Read! Talk! 21:40, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
Well, this is weird. You created this page as a redirect when you moved the draft article to the other page title and later, for some reason KylieTastic used (clean up (DraftCleaner)) and it removed redirect and filled out the article. I've never seen an AFC reviewer do this so you might ask KylieTastic why she did that edit and since she is now an admin, she has access to the deleted content on the page. But, at this point, I think they are probably identical versions of the same article since there were no edits to this draft after KylieTastic's edits. Liz Read! Talk! 21:45, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks

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2020 Democratic Party for the People leadership election

Hey there, I noticed that about four years ago you deleted 2020 Democratic Party for the People leadership election following a PROD regarding notability. I've been updating Japanese political party leadership elections, including for the DPFP. English language sources for this one are scarce, but Japanese ones, which I have primarily been working from for other pages, are plentiful - ja:2020年国民民主党代表選挙 has 65 citations. Would I be able to recreate this page or would there still be notability issues in your judgment? Erinthecute (talk) 07:18, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Erinthecute,
It's difficult to judge a deleted page but since it was a proposed deletion (PROD), I can restore upon request. If you would prefer, I could then move it to Draft space where it is unlikely to be deleted again. Let me know what you want. Liz Read! Talk! 22:47, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
Restoring it and moving it to Draft space would be great. Thanks so much. Erinthecute (talk) 23:06, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
Hello, Erinthecute,
 Done You can find it at Draft:2020 Democratic Party for the People leadership election. If you look at the page history, you can find and read the PROD deletion rationale. Good luck with your work. Liz Read! Talk! 23:12, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

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Request for guidance regarding ongoing Zinfandel / Kratošija issue


Hi Liz, I’m reaching out because you were the only person who previously noticed and acknowledged the unilateral redirect of the Kratošija article to Zinfandel. I really appreciated that, and it stayed with me because it was the first time someone recognised that there was no prior consensus. Since then, I’ve sincerely tried to follow every instruction that was given at ANI. I moved everything to Talk:Zinfandel, announced all proposed edits in advance, provided full sourcing, and avoided re-adding anything that had been reverted. I tried to handle everything as calmly and procedurally as possible. However, editor User:Dalida has continued to remove all of my edits with summaries such as “NPOV and misinformations”, but without explaining on the talk page what exactly is considered incorrect. Aside from that, the explanation I provided on the talk page was also ignored specifically by Dalida, not by you or any other editor. I have opened several detailed sections on the talk page and pinged Dalida, but there has been no engagement. The reverting simply continues without clarification. This pattern of reverting without discussion seems to run against several core policies such as WP:CONSENSUS, WP:TALK, WP:BRD, WP:BURDEN and WP:OWN, because there was no attempt to specify what exactly was incorrect, no engagement with the sources, and no effort to work toward shared wording.

I have been trying very hard not to take this personally and not to escalate anything, but at this point I genuinely don’t know how to proceed when one editor continually reverts but refuses to discuss the content. I would really appreciate your advice — not to take sides, just guidance on the correct next step.

Should I open a DRN case, start an RfC, or is there a better approach? Here are the relevant links: • Latest revert by Dalida:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zinfandel&oldid=1322708866

• My previous edit that was reverted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zinfandel&oldid=1322707166

• Talk page posts where I explained everything in advance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zinfandel#Proposal:_Improving_structure_and_sourcing_consistency_regarding_Krato%C5%A1ija_(synonym_of_Zinfandel)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zinfandel#Implementation_note_%E2%80%93_History_subsection_update
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zinfandel#Clarification_%E2%80%93_Budva_and_Venetian_administration

Thank you very much for any guidance you can offer. I really want to handle this in the right way and remain fully within policy. VitisArchivum (talk) 20:02, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Your proposal and your own communication on Talk:Zinfandel appears to be AI-generated. We aren't interested in communicating with AIs, or including AI-generated content. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 20:34, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
Hello Anachronist,
Thanks again for getting back to me.
This time you say: “We aren't interested in communicating...” As I initialy wrote to Liz, on her talk page, I expected that conversation will continue there... Anyway, since We've already spoken , I'll say the following: I think, It would be good if we could be focused on source verification and the substance of the text, in the interest of our shared goal, of making the text as neutral and accurate as possible, and covering all aspects of the given topic. As for the AI, not a single source, reference, or anything of substance is, or can be, AI-generated in this text. Everything is verifiable. I kindly ask you to check every quote, read all the cited references, which are available online, and then we can continue the discussion. AI is a tool for language assistance and proofreading, especially for people who are not native English speakers. We are all aware of hallucinations and various other anomalies that AI brings with it. It would be strange to assume, that someone relies on AI for the essence of the work, the verifiability of references, citations, etc. In times when AI didn't exist, people used Google Translate and various online translators, as well as programs for tables and diagrams like Excel, Word, and later Grammarly, ProWritingAid, etc. Since AI detection tools are not considered reliable evidence on Wikipedia, and cannot determine whether a comment is AI generated, I belive it is important that instead subject "AI", we stay focused on disscution about sources and content , since those are central to the article. Very important sources and facts pertain to the very essence of the topic. I would like you to join the talk page for Zinfndel, so we can have constructive discussion about the essence of the topic of the Zinfandel article, that our goal be substance, not form. Most important is content accuracy and verifiability. Wording can allways be refined collaboratively, in good faith. AI can't provide the kind of historical and scientific details, I presented on the talk page of Zinfandel. As one of the significant , long-time editors of the article, your engagement with the cited sources would be valuable. I am looking forward to see you on the talk page for Zinfandel.
By the way :
Although I studied LLM isue myself, I am grateful to some honest, experienced editors who guided me to WP:LLMCOMM.
Now, LLM matter seems resolved, I hope we can finally move to the main topic .The issue at hand. The Zinfandel article, slowly, detail by detail, and all with the best of intentions, I hope. I look forward to your participation on Talk:Zinfandel. VitisArchivum (talk) 14:06, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
PS: Translated with DeepL.com. VitisArchivum (talk) 14:06, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Deletion of statsmodels page: request for undelete

Hi Liz You deleted the statsmodels page on 24 May 2024

The google scholar page currently has `Cited by 7564`. This year, so far, it has close to 1600 citations mainly in scientific journals across many fields. Statsmodels the main statistics and econometrics package in Python, and usually shows up in top 10 or top 15 Python packages for data science and related areas.

If this does not count as "notability", then what does?

Also there are books, online courses, college and university courses that uses it. Statsmodels is part of the current dominance of Python as a programming language with a wide range of applications.

What can I do to reinstate or undelete the statsmodels page?

Because of the missing statsmodels page, statsmodels was also deleted from `https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_statistical_packages` which is really annoying to me because it include many niche packages with few users compared to statsmodels. And my effort to maintain the information there is wasted. Josefpktd (talk) 22:40, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Josefpktd,
Please give me a link to the deleted page and then I can have an answer for you. I don't delete pages for no reason so I need to review the page to find out what that reason was. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 22:45, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Statsmodels_(2nd_nomination)
I don't have access to the original page. The link is the deletion discussion.
Also, there are essentially still no traditional review articles.
Introduction and popularity comes from online material (many examples, blog posts) and educational material (courses, online courses and books).
For example, a listing of online courses that seem to use statsmodels https://www.classcentral.com/subject/statsmodels
or a recent review (including critical comments at the end) https://www.econometricstutor.co.uk/econometrics-libraries-and-packages-statsmodels-python
Here is what copilot tells me about statsmodels:
"Mature and widely cited in tutorials and educational material; commonly recommended when statistical inference matters"
It's widely used, but it is not a main part in the current machine learning and data science hype because it does "boring" traditional statistics and econometrics.
just another example
DATA 0250. Applied Statistics in Python. is a course at Brown university https://bulletin.brown.edu/datascience/#courseinventory
The last sentence is "Students from the humanities and social sciences are particularly encouraged to enroll in this course." which is typical for the fields that need traditional statistic.
Most of the citations for statsmodels are in natural sciences like biology, humanities, medical and similar areas.
Aside: I did not get an email notification of your reply. So, I'm sorry to reply late. Josefpktd (talk) 19:52, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
just another example, that I found funny when I saw it initially:
The announcement of Python in Microsoft Excel explicitly mentioned statsmodels and sklearn packages
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/excelblog/announcing-python-in-excel-combining-the-power-of-python-and-the-flexibility-of-/3893439
Furthermore, statsmodels is included as a core library by default
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/open-source-libraries-and-python-in-excel-c817c897-41db-40a1-b9f3-d5ffe6d1bf3e
So at least Microsoft finds statsmodels useful and "notable". Josefpktd (talk) 20:10, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

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Hi! Could you pls restore this page? I would like to add Wikiprojects templates. Why don't I just create a new page? I would like to keep the early history of the page and continue it. Thanks :D -- 04:40, 18 November 2025 (UTC) Nurtenge (talk) 04:40, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

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Please provide me with a direct link to the page you are concerned about so I can see why it was deleted. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 08:31, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
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Auto archive

@TonySt I believe Liz is fine with auto-archiving since they previously liked my edit. The page is long, and it looks like Liz has been archiving it manually, so adding the bot should help. @Liz, let me know if you’d like me to set it up. Cinaroot (talk) 04:46, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Cinaroot,
Please do not do anything like that, once an editor imposed a bot archiving content and it completely messed up my archives and I've never had the time to straighten it out. I'll manually archive messages, you just can't expect me to do act on demand. I'll get to it when I get to it. I have a lot of duties here. Liz Read! Talk! 04:50, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
Sorry — not trying to impose. I just wanted to help. A bot with a simple {{Archives}} setup would take care of it automatically, just FYI. Your call. Thanks. Cinaroot (talk) 04:56, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
Hello, Cinaroot,
The bot that was used here a few years ago, randomly put messages in archive folders that had space, rather than placing them in folders chronologically. At some point (never), I need to go through the 40+ folders and rearrange them according to date, not available space. I just don't want to go through that again. But thanks you for trying to help that was kind of you. Liz Read! Talk! 05:11, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Re AfD talk page notifications

The reason I have not been doing this is because, at least when I started Indiana, none of the people who created these articles had contributed in several years, and pro forma notifications of the retired are a blight. There is only one of these who ever payed any attention to the notices anyway. I see that User:Evking22 has returned, and I will resume notifying them. Mangoe (talk) 12:44, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

FPT Software

Hi Liz, back in July I !voted to merge FPT Software with the article on its parent FPT Corporation. A subsequent discussion on the Talk:FPT Software turned up some sourcing which meets the criteria for establishing notability. Had this sourcing been highlighted at the AfD, I would have !voted to Keep. An attempt to restore the article was overturned by Pppery (pinging now) citing WP:CONLEVEL which, in my opinion, ignores WP:CCC. Given the original AfD had minimal participation, I personally don't see why the article shouldn't just be restored and the new sourcing added, or even the article is restored and sent back to AfD. I was about to do this myself but thoughts it might be best to ping the closing adming instead (that's you!). Can either you or Pppery let me know what should be the next step? HighKing++ 18:44, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

I've restored that article and I'll fix it up and add new sources as per WP:CCC. If anyone wants to stick it back in AfD, feel free. HighKing++ 12:22, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Reshat Ramadani

Hey Liz, may you please DRAFTIY Reshat Ramadani, he just made his international debut and I reckon will pass GNG now. I will spruce up the page to see. Cheers!--Ortizesp (talk) 20:26, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Ortizesp,
 Done You can find it at Draft:Reshat Ramadani. I don't recommend moving it back to main space or it is likely to get tagged for CSD G4 speedy deletion. Good luck! Liz Read! Talk! 05:26, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
Great, thanks. Someone already moved it to draftspace, but it's spruced up and should be good to go going forward.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:23, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

FilmLight Colour Awards

I don’t remember exactly, but can you tell me what happened to the page that FilmLight Colour Awards was redirected to? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:08, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Jeraxmoira🐉,
Oh, this is no problem to check, you created this redirect to Colorist Society International#Relationship to awards. This page was later moved to Draft space and/or deleted. Liz Read! Talk! 05:22, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#How_do_I_get_sanctions_lifted?

Hi! Mentioned you here and wanted to drop a note. Not sanctions you're involved with, but you had two G2 notes on @FloridaArmy's Talk, and I think it was script error. They don't create test pages and all I see in the history looks like the usual dummy edits to reset G13 clock. Anything in particular you remember from this to weigh in? Thanks either way Star Mississippi 13:20, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

"Wilderun" Article Recreation

I've noticed that you deleted the Wilderun article way back in 2016. Since their album releases Veil of Imagination (2019) and Epigone (2022), they've become fairly notable for independent articles and sources. I even just finished the base draft on my sandbox page. Would it be alright to submit it as a standalone article, and then build on it? SenselessRumble (talk) 21:17, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

Deletion highlighting script

Hi Liz, could you possible help me with a link of the script/CSS which highlights links of pages tagged for deletion as you mentioned earlier on my talk? It will help me avoid mistakes like User talk:Bunnypranav#Mistaken CFD filing. Thanks a lot! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 03:33, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Ko Yong-suk

If you'd bothered to check, this redirect was just NPP'd and if you'd read my edit summary, you'd have seen I'm working on the target, see User:MisawaSakura/Ko Yong Suk. MisawaSakura (talk) 02:38, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

It was erroneously patrolled by a bot. That doesn't make it acceptable to create broken redirects. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:16, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
I was working on the article and finished it about 45 minutes later and had to recreate the redirect. I put that fact in the edit summary. All this delete did was cause uneeded extra work when STOPPING and thinking (see top of this talk page) would have prevented all this. Several wiki "rules" make no sense. MisawaSakura (talk) 12:49, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
Now what would make sense is if Liz would archive most of this overly long 551K talk page. MisawaSakura (talk) 12:50, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

Delete justification for Maybe Mars

I had left the justification in the edit summary so didn't properly put it in the box: "The article is about a record label with almost no independent coverage, self-promotion, possibly paid to inflate the label’s presence because of all the other similar articles of artists under the label"

Something else noteworthy about article is the clean up tag from 15 years ago indicating the lack of citation problem isn't solvable. Underminer1000 (talk) 06:05, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

Cliff Divine

Hi. I seem to remember the article had a photo of Cliff Divine themself. Can you get me that file name? I can't find it via Commons search. (Please ping me if you respond.) Thanks, The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 08:09, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It was File:Cliff Divine.jpg, which was deleted on Commons. jlwoodwa (talk) 16:54, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, that saves me the trouble of nominating it for deletion as no longer being in scope.. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:08, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

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The Social Reckoning

Hi, it looks like we disagree on whether the page The Social Reckoning should be placed in Category:2026 biographical drama films or Category:2020s biographical drama films. I believe it should be the latter because the page has already been automatically categorized into Category:2026 films, so it stands to reason that it's appropriate to move it into any relevant subcategories. ThanatosApprentice (talk) 06:37, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

Bus Route AfDs

Hi Liz, you've just closed a few of the Bus Routes AfD as no consensus, and perhaps that is right, but in this one, for instance, there is prima facie 5:3 majority for delete. Of course, WP:DISCARD ought to apply to the nom., but the same could be said of a vague wave to sources, and the procedural keep has no policy reasons to keep either, so I don't see how that skews things back. Only one keep !vote discusses any sources at all, and the next three !votes disagreed, and in mine IAjf773 specifically reviewed and attempted to refute the argument from those sources. There's a viable ATD. Would you be able to expand on why you think there's no consensus there? Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:10, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

ETA: I have just noticed that Ajf773 !voted on that one twice. That puts it more in line with the others, but still, it is not totally clear why that is no consensus and not a consensus to do something. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:16, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Sirfurboy,
Most of these AFDs had been relisted twice and I didn't see an obvious consensus for most of them (I did close one as Delete). I have a full day here as it's the day before a big holiday and I don't want to spend it arguing so I accept that in the one you pointed out that you are correct and I read the discussion incorrectly so I have reverted my closure.
By the way, have you ever considered becoming a NAC closer for AFDs? I think you'd do a very thorough job and we are short on AFD closers right now. I realize that you participate in a lot of AFD discussions but there are still plenty of other discussions we could use your help with. Please consider this suggestion. Most of the NAC closers that come our way are pretty new editors and you have a great deal of knowledge and experience. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 19:20, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
Thanks Liz. Well I hadn't thought of closing AfDs so much as I think you once encouraged me just to get involved in participating in them. But if you are short of closers, I'll certainly look at doing some. Have a happy Thanksgiving, and all the best to you and yours. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:25, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

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Scope of U6

I have undeleted User:Olikewat because U6 only applies to user subpages, not top-level user pages (see WP:Replacement of CSD U5 FAQ for why this is). * Pppery * it has begun... 19:28, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

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Turkey and its former colonies

Hello Liz! Today you deleted Category:Relations of Turkey and its former colonies under G4, right before I was going to nominate it to a full discussion. I believe the small attendance in the previous discussion allows for a new discussion, which is now open, so I reinstated it for this purpose. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Place Clichy (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

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Unlinking

Liz, I'd like to ask once again if you could please ensure that you're unlinking deleted items appropriately. The other day you left a number of unlinked entries for List of medical organizations in Pakistan in See Also sections and even a template (). To be fair as a non-admin I don't have experience with the nuts and bolts of the process, but surely the fact that this was a list should've raised a flag that it shouldn't be mentioned anywhere after deletion. This isn't the only example from the past week. Have you tried Extraordinary Writ's suggestions for tools that can handle items in lists and navboxes more accurately? –dlthewave 21:39, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, dlthewave,
And I'm going to ask once again one question, which is what is a way to check individual links in "What links here" if an admin deletes hundreds of pages a day that will not add hours to the time they spend on the project? If a an admin who works in this area has advice let me know because one of my main responses to your queries is that I can't be the only administrator who runs into this and yet I seem to be singled out. Granted I spend more time deleting CSD drafts and articles than most admins but this must be an issuw for every administrator. And how do you know that these links will not be needed in the future? Have a good week. Liz Read! Talk! 22:21, 2 December 2025 (UTC)
If you have any examples of administrators who don't delete the links and unlink like you, I'd be happy to see them. Granted I haven't looked myself but perhaps you may want to do less deletion. Logoshimpo (talk) 23:36, 2 December 2025 (UTC)
Have you tried the suggestions that Extraordinary Writ made here and here? –dlthewave 00:44, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
Liz, I've been seeing a few people ask you about this, and the answer is to just click the extra buttons on XfD closer and twinkle. If you are unable to find and do this for your deletions and say it would take too much time for your volume, then the solution is just to delete less pages, not to leave likely hundreds of bits of useless text around. This is not to say that your work isn't appreciated, but it is evidently frustrating for others to go back and clean up what is an avoidable problem. Sophisticatedevening(talk) 00:56, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
I'm disappointed (and frustrated) at Liz's response. I'm frustrated because she's using up my patience. Logoshimpo (talk) 18:20, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
Well, some editors are complaining about PRODs so I'll stop reviewing those. I am clicking on the box for XFDCloser each time so I'm not sure what the issue is. As for using up my patience, that goes both ways. I asked PMC to take over all of my deletion duties so this would no longer be an issue but she didn't seem interested. I think it would be easier to retire or to cut down my work to about 10% of what I normally do. I'll let other admins pick up the other 60 hours/week that I take care of that no one seems to acknowledge. Liz Read! Talk! 18:41, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
I'm concerned you haven't tried the suggestions Extraordinary Writ made. Logoshimpo (talk) 20:07, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
Indeed, the diffs that I posted above are tagged as Twinkle (which seems to be the root of the problem) instead of XFDCloser as suggested. –dlthewave 20:52, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
Logoshimpo, over my 10 years as an admin, I have deleted 758,459 pages and made 871,811 edits. At this point, I'll try to work this out with dlthewave who seems to know what they are talking about than worry about what disappoints and concerns you. I'm sure there are many of other activities you can busy yourself with. Liz Read! Talk! 21:39, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
@Liz, in XFD closer, when you click the button to remove links, it will automatically remove most of the links, but then will surface some individually for you to evaluate. It tells you where they are, so you can go look at them in context if you need to, and gives you the option to remove the link, remove the entry entirely, or leave the entry and tag with citation needed. What people are asking you to do is to pay attention to this part and not simply hit "remove link" on each of these individually queried examples.
As for the 60 hours a week, please, please cut down. I don't think there's anyone who doesn't acknowledge all the time you spend on this project! But don't wear yourself out over this. Other admins will take up the load if you give them the chance to do so. -- asilvering (talk) 00:38, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
asilvering, I have a lot of respect for you and would like to ask you a question. Every day, I delete dozens of broken redirects that are leftover from admins deleting pages. You can find a few at User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects which updates every six hours. And I even run a Quarry query (see here) to find more broken redirects so I can catch them and take care of them. Clearly, admins do not check "What links here" before deleting pages or they would see these redirects and redirect talk pages and take care of them when they delete the main page. And when a checkuser does a "Nuke", there are often dozens and dozens of Talk pages that don't get deleted by this tool that have to be taken care of. We all work on clean up here.
Why do these instances of my editing have some editors irate (not annoyed but very angry) while all of the broken redirects that get leftover from other admins' deletions aren't even noticed or commented upon? I do my best to abide by Wikipedia policies and guidelines but this has caught me off-guard. Thank you for any help you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 01:22, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
@Liz, with a CU nuke in particular, that's definitely a mistake - the nuke tool makes deleting the accompanying talk pages really easy, or at least has since it was recently redesigned (I never used it before then and couldn't say about earlier). So if you catch someone forgetting to delete talk pages (and redirects? maybe? not sure) after a nuke, I think you're justified in reminding them that if they set nuke to also search for related talk pages, it'll get those, and then you won't have to clean up after them. It's an easy button to forget to push, but it also takes the nuking admin effectively zero additional time to do. CUs and clerks shouldn't be messing this one up, at least not regularly.
As for other deletions, I have no idea why this would happen. Twinkle catches them automatically, and I presume we're all lazy and use Twinkle. It might be worth poking those admins and asking them what's going on. Maybe there's some workflow fix someone can script up so that you're not left having to do this by hand.
And as for why it's noticed, I think that's pretty simple - the things you're talking about aren't visible to people who aren't monitoring a db query or bot output. Which is to say, it's an admin goof that's only being seen by other admins. For all I know you're the only person monitoring that at all. So if you've never told anyone they're constantly ending up in your reports, they'd never know they're causing you hassle. Meanwhile, when you're deleting pages and not removing the item from lists and templates, anyone with that article/template can notice, just by looking at their watchlist. And it's also visible to readers as well. So it's easier for others to catch, and because you work at such a high volume, it's easy for the people noticing it to get very annoyed indeed. -- asilvering (talk) 01:43, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
  • You know, I do want to find a solution to what you see as a big problem. But I have been physically sick now for a week, I'm not getting any sleep and I find that it is hard for me to maintain civility and AGF when I'm feeling targeted out of all admins who do any work with page deletion. I'm going to take a "partial retirement" by which I mean I will not be doing any editing that involves these issues and just doing tasks like responding to all of the overdue messages on my User talk page. Let's call a truce and when I'm back at 100% strength we can come to a workable solution. And perhaps now that you will not be spending your time scrutinizing my logs, you can look at other superactive admins and see if they act differently or exactly the same as I do. Peace and see you in another week or so when I get over COVID or the flu or whatever has got me down. Peace. Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

Daniel Bryant

Hi Liz. I saw that you deleted Draft:Daniel Bryant under G13 back in 2022. When you have the opportunity, would you mind taking a look at the draft and seeing if it is about the sinologist Daniel Bryant at the University of Victoria, and if it is, could I request an undeletion? If it is about a different Daniel Bryant, no need to bother. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 14:26, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

@SunloungerFrog No luck, this is about "an American professor credited with developing a universal guide for financial responsibility". Toadspike [Talk] 00:43, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
@Toadspike, many thanks. I will start afresh! Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 05:47, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

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Merge history

Hello. Is it possible to move/merge the editing history of page User:Lady Centavo to Lady Centavo? I previously made a mistake by moving my sandbox User:Rinai Natsumi/Lady Centavo to User:Lady Centavo (which should be in the mainspace). Thanks. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 08:40, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

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Deletion review: Listo-Film

Hello. I created an article titled Listo-Film then moved it to Draft: Listo-Film and it was deleted. I'm not quite understanding why as it didn't look any different than the example found at Draft:Example, except that it looks like I should have added {{Draft article}} at the top and removed categories? Reading through Wikipedia:Drafts it says "Editors may instead choose to create draft pages in their userspace or new articles directly in mainspace" so that's what I did. Can you provide a clearer explanation of why it was speedily removed and what I should have done differently?

I guess it's the opposite of "Redirects from drafts moved to mainspace: Redirects that are a result of page moves from the draft namespace to another namespace should be retained"?

My apologies for breaking any rules, I'm not used to working with drafts, just had limited time to work on it so wanted to save it and come back to it later.

In any case, can it be restored so that I don't have to start all over again? Tengu99 (talk) 00:40, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Tengu99,
I didn't delete your article. You can find it at Draft:Listo-Film. I deleted the redirect from main space to Draft space because we delete most cross-namespace redirects. This was just a notification of that redirect deletion. If you draftify another article, please tag the redirect for speedy deletion, CSD R2. Does that explain the situation? Liz Read! Talk! 00:47, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Hi Liz. Sorry, I tried to remove this once I'd understood what took place. My apologies. One shouldn't edit while tired. ^_^ Tengu99 (talk) 01:44, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Tengu99, no apology necessary. Liz Read! Talk! 02:21, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Re. ANI

To reply to this, you haven't done anything to me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Though I, personally, found it interesting that you asked that question of AirshipJungleman29 several minutes after you'd closed the thread, then altered the timestamp in your signature to make it seem like you'd done it before. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🧸 12:34, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
"Who among us, given the powers of a God, would remain fair, scrupulous and grounded in frail humanity against the face of all temptation - no matter how small, petty and seemingly superficial?"
Know who said that?
Me.
Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 16:38, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
well ... but since it's really none of my beeswax, I think I'll keep my mouth shut on that score. Know who said that? Well almost that: Stephen King (and check out his Hansel and Gretel in posthumous collaboration with Maurice Sendak). ---Sluzzelin talk 18:44, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

I wanna redo Kang Khai Xing articles

Since you're deleting the page for Kang Khai Xing before, I want to do redo this article again with the sources being added. and he is the world junior champion and also won syed modi recently and on a good form with good coverage from my country. So, now he is better than previous year for BLP articles. Lowyat Slyder (talk) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC)

Request regarding the deleted page "Amaruk Kayshapanta"

Hi Liz,

Could you please help me with the page "Amaruk Kayshapanta"?

I saw that it was deleted on 14 November 2025 at 19:33 as R2: Cross-namespace redirect. The page was previously located at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaruk_Kayshapanta

Could you restore the deleted page so that I can review it and fix the redirect issue?

Also, I would appreciate your advice on what exactly needs to be done in this situation. Is it acceptable to recreate or edit the page with proper encyclopedic content?

I also saw on your user page that you have been dealing with health issues. I hope you are feeling better, and I truly appreciate you taking the time to assist despite that.

Thank you very much for your time and guidance.

Best regards, Maryna Maryna Fryda (talk) 15:32, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)
@Maryna Fryda the article is at Draft:Amaruk Kayshapanta
It was only the redirect that was deleted. Please log in with your main account and you'll see your contribution history. Star Mississippi 17:03, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your reply!
I understand now that only the redirect in mainspace was deleted and that the draft exists at Draft:Amaruk Kayshapanta. However, I need to clarify one more thing: I no have access to the account that originally created that draft, so I cannot see its contribution history or continue working from that account.
Is it possible to restore or publish the page as it previously existed, or to allow me to continue editing the draft from my current account? I would like to improve the content and rewrite it in a more encyclopedic and policy-compliant way, if that is acceptable.
Thank you again for your time and guidance!
Maryna Maryna Fryda (talk) 22:58, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
You are welcome to edit the draft and submit it to AfC @Maryna Fryda
If you are new, how do you know where the page was previously located? Star Mississippi 23:55, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the clarification.
I would also like to explain that I did not create the original page. I work with open sources in my professional field, and I previously used information from Wikipedia about this person. I had the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaruk_Kayshapanta in my materials, but at some point it stopped working, so I tried to find out what happened.
Since this is a fairly well-known person, I am able to update and expand the information to make it more encyclopedic. However, I do not have access to the old draft because I don’t know its draft URL — I only saw the deletion log entry for the redirect.
If there is a way for me to access or locate the draft, I would be happy to continue working on it and then submit it to AfC.
Thank you again for your time and guidance.
Maryna Maryna Fryda (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for the clarification.
I would like to ask one more question to ensure I follow the correct process.
Since I do not have access to the original draft and did not create it, would it be acceptable if I create a new draft article about this person from my own account, based on reliable independent sources and written in an encyclopedic, policy-compliant manner?
I want to make sure this approach is appropriate before I proceed.
Thank you again for your time and guidance. Maryna Fryda (talk) 19:39, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
Please edit the existing draft @Maryna Fryda. You can find it at Draft:Amaruk Kayshapanta
We do not need multiple drafts about the same subjet as that is confusing to the reader and reviewers. Star Mississippi 02:51, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
I’m not able to find the draft at that link at the moment — am I allowed to create a new article on this topic? I also noticed that Gatita Estrella requested to have the draft moved to her user space for further editing. May I request access to that draft in my own user space as well so that I can work on it?
What would you recommend I do in this situation — should I start a new article, or is there a better approach? Maryna Fryda (talk) 16:43, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
You may edit the same draft. We do not create separate ones for each user. Star Mississippi 02:53, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
@Liz @Logoshimpo just noting for your convenience that Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Amaruk Kayshapanta now exists should you wish to participate. Star Mississippi 21:19, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2025 Newsletter

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2025).

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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 23

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Category deletion request

I put Category:Sky Sci-Fi up for deletion last week, and consensus was that it should be deleted...but the discussion was closed two days ago, and it has yet to be deleted. If you could delete it, that would be much appreciated. JHD0919 (talk) 23:13, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

I went and emptied the category in preparation for the deletion. JHD0919 (talk) 10:14, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! JHD0919 (talk) 19:47, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

trolls, canvassing and others

hi liz! i'm sorry to ask you directly, but could you check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Silohpso? thanks ~2025-30597-01 (talk) 22:00, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

solved by other admins, nvm ~2025-30597-01 (talk) 00:08, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 17 § Meteorology by year subcats

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2FA

Hi Liz. I just saw that you haven't been able to get 2FA turned on. Is there something I could do to help? Would you want to hop onto a Google Meet and do a screenshare so I could try walking you through that way? Knowing that in the not too distant future the announcement about arbs retaining/giving up permissions will go out, it seems like a real deadline to get that sorted so you could retain if you're able to use them and give them up if you're not able to get it sorted. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:56, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Barkeep49,
That would be awesome! It has driven me crazy all year. I think it's because the email address that is being used isn't being recognized. I might have to create a new one or use my arbitration email address. Are you going to be around any time tomorrow? Then I could try a few times, figure out exactly where I'm running into problems and then get your advice. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
I'm going to be around here and there but it shouldn't be too hard for me to hop onto a call at some point with you. You have my email, so feel free to reach out. The multifactor shouldn't have to do with email so hopefully we can get it cleared up. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:59, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, Barkeep49, I got busy with Christmas shopping. I'll try again tomorrow. Liz Read! Talk! 02:33, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. I have some stuff planned myself during the day, but will be available in the evening tomorrow. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:47, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Alex Terrible

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RD2 req

Diff id 1310313112 fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 04:10, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four,
I'm not sure what to do with that number, can you provide me with a direct link? Liz Read! Talk! 04:13, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) This.—Odysseus1479 05:21, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
 Done. Oh, that was just awful. Liz Read! Talk! 05:27, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Category:Works by Alejandro González Iñárritu

Hi Liz. Smth went wrong there, could you please have a look? Thanks. Ymblanter (talk) 21:51, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Ymblanter,
I'm sorry about that. I've restored it. Liz Read! Talk! 02:32, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
Hello, Ymblanter,
I don't see that anything is being done with Category:Works by Alejandro González Iñárritu now. I'm not sure what the right something is at this point. Liz Read! Talk! 05:35, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
This category, together with the two subcategories, was listed yesterday at CFD/Speedy, but during (my) night the nomination was opposed, so that chances are we do not need to do anything. I moved the subcategories back for consistency. Thanks for restoring it, I was not sure what you wanted to do and was afraid to interfere. Ymblanter (talk) 08:18, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 21:22, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Re: Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wikipedians by alma mater:Jan Matejko Academy of Fine Arts

Hello, I mistakenly created this category for the page that, as it turned out, does not belong to the category. So to me there are no obstacles to delete the category. All the best. Franek Vetulani (talk) 11:44, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Merry Christmas, Liz!
Wishing you Season's Greetings and a Happy Winter Solstice! As the year comes to a close, I want to express my appreciation for your dedicated efforts on Wikipedia and extend heartfelt thanks for your assistance throughout the years. May the holiday season bring you and your loved ones abundant joy, good health, and prosperity.

4meter4 (talk) 16:46, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Liz!

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An extra ornament!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2026!

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Merry Christmas!

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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2026!

Hello Liz, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2026.
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Morgz

Hello and happy holidays, I've recently created an article for Morgz at User:Dwarfroe/Morgz, but was unable to move it to mainspace due to you having previously protected it after it was deleted in this AFD. I believe that he is notable now and I ask that you please reduce page protection. Thanks in advance! - dwarfroe (talk / contr) 20:20, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, dwarfroe,
If an article subject has been deleted through an WP:AFD discussion, you should submit the draft of a new article to WP:AFC for review. Recreated articles on deleted subjects are not just moved to main space. Let an AFC reviewer offer their opinion and then a move to main space can be considered if all of the pre-existing problems have been resolved. Good luck. Liz Read! Talk! 20:53, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

New pages patrol January–February 2026 Backlog drive

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Request for undeletion: Angela Busheska

Dear Liz,

I am writing to request the undeletion/restoration of the article Angela Busheska, which was deleted in May 2023. Since that time, the subject has achieved significant new recognition that addresses the previous concerns regarding notability and primary sources.

Most notably, in August 2025, she was appointed to the UN Secretary-General's Youth Advisory Group on Climate Change [1], a high-level advisory role. Furthermore, she was named a 2024 College Woman of the Year by Glamour magazine, which published an in-depth feature interview [2]. She has also served as a featured speaker at COP28 alongside climate experts [3].

These are substantial, independent secondary sources that did not exist during the 2023 discussion. I believe she now clearly meets WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO.

Sources:

Before I realized there had been a previous deletion discussion, I had already compiled a substantial set of independent reliable sources establishing coverage over several years, including publications, major media features, academic citations, and event documentation. Feel free to take a look here:

, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Thank you for your time and consideration. Happy Holidays and happy 2026! ~2025-42766-79 (talk) 17:56, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

2026 New Year

Hello @Liz. Happy New Year! Wishing you a year filled with knowledge, collaboration, and meaningful contributions. Thank you for your dedication to building free, reliable, and accessible knowledge for everyone around the world. May the new year bring you inspiration, successful edits, respectful discussions, and strong community spirit. Here’s to another year of improving Wikipedia together! Warm regards, — A fellow Wikipedian

Thanks! Happy editing! New Years 🥳🎄 (Iluziya7 (talk) 04:55, 28 December 2025 (UTC))

Request for undeletion: Beta-Lactamase Database (BLDB)

Dear Liz,

I am writing to request the undeletion/restoration of the article Beta-Lactamase Database (BLDB), which was deleted in May 2023 after discussion. I am the developer of this database, which is one of the most important resource in the field. I am doing all this work in my free time, so there is no commercial interest. This Wiki page was created by Alex Bateman during the "JRC Workshop on Antimicrobial resistance databases" organized at Varano Borghi in Italy on 22nd May 2019 by the European Commission with the developers of databases related to antimicrobial resistance. At that time he created several other Wiki pages for the related databases, in the section dedicated to antimicrobial resistance.

Our database BLDB is described in detail in a dedicated publication and is used daily by many clinical hospitals worldwide for the surveillance of the spread of antibiotic resistance (more than 2,000 unique visits every month). Since 2017 it received 772 citations.

I hope that all these arguments will justify the undeletion/restoration of the article Beta-Lactamase Database (BLDB). Afterwards I will complete the Wiki page with additional details, which was one of the criticism expressed in the discussion. Thank you in advance and don't hesitate if you have additional questions.

Best regards and a Happy New Year !

Bogdan Biorga (talk) 23:11, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Happy New Year and a barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Happy New Year, Liz! In 2025, other editors thanked you 1035 times using the thanks tool on the English Wikipedia. By that measure, this made you the #10 most thanked Wikipedian in 2025. As I said last year too: congratulations and, well, thank you for all that you do for Wikipedia. Here's to 2026! Mz7 (talk) 05:33, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Liz!

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Happy New Year
Happy New Year! May 2026 be your best year yet! BD2412 T 00:59, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

In these first hours of 2026, thank you

As the subject of this 2024 ANI, I remember and am grateful for those closing words which you expressed to perfection. My thanks for your kindness and my best wishes for 2026. Roman Spinner (talkcontribs) 01:39, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

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Thank you for the many, many reliable and constructive edits you made again this past year, especially in the area of category maintenance. Happy New Year! Place Clichy (talk) 03:31, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

Jumping the gun - deleting pages immediately after notification?

Hi, Liz. Wishing you improved health. Suggestion. You deleted page Draft:Haro v. Kaiser Foundation Hospitals 5 minutes after DreamRimmer bot II notified me : "If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission, and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code." The timing is ... less than ideal. Makes sense to give editors a chance to see the messages DreamRimmer bot II leaves before deleting. Especially as I had improved the article in the 6 months since the previous warning. Just a suggestion for the future. Make sense? RememberOrwell (talk) 20:35, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

Deleted speedy deletion

Deleted your speedy deletion on airlines disestablished. Air Japan will cease March 2026 Grffffff (talk) 16:58, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

Celebrate Wikipedia's 25th anniversary in Portland!

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You're invited to the celebration of Wikipedia's 25th anniversary in Portland, Oregon! Join us at the Rose City Book Pub at 2:00 PM on Sunday, January 18.

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Deletion review for Angela Busheska

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Angela Busheska. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ~2025-42766-79 (talk) 00:11, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Liz and @~2025-42766-79
I have closed this DRV and restored the article to draftspace for 79 or other interested editors to improve it. (The close was fine, factors have changed in the intervening two+ years) Star Mississippi 03:54, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
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where to find deletion discussion

Hi Liz,

You deleted Mbaba Mwana Waresa based on a PROD. How do I look up the discussion? I'm trying to answer a question on whether the name is dubious or not.

Thanks — kwami (talk) 09:49, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for asking, Kwami. For reference, my question was Talk:Meanings_of_minor-planet_names#Mbabamwanawaresa. Renerpho (talk) 12:51, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Isn’t the main feature of a PROD that there’s no discussion? Indeed AIUI the raising of any objection would have killed the process. It can also be undone at WP:RFU without need for discussion (unless the article is speedy-deletably in violation of policy, I suppose).—Odysseus1479 20:19, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
There were never any citations in the deleted article other than the five shown in the talk page discussion Renerpho linked to. The only citation for the first three years of the page's existence was the Encyclopedia Mythica one, and the article's factual accuracy had been disputed since November 2005; in particular, the first objection, by an IP, stated in part that "the Zulu language does not have an 'R'", which fwiw Zulu language#Consonants confirms. —Cryptic 20:35, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
Actually, both that section and the following 'orthography' sections do show an /r/, though only in foreign loans and 'expressive' words. We don't know that this isn't an 'expressive' word, though I'm not finding it in Doke's dictionary. There's also the question of the supposed alt name Nomkhubulwane, which is easier to confirm as a goddess, including in modern cultural revival; see the several quotes going back to the 19th century in Bryceson et al. (2007: 172 ff) Identity and Networks: Fashioning Gender and Ethnicity Across Cultures. Perhaps the page could be moved there with a citation-needed tag on the Mbaba alias. — kwami (talk) 00:54, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Please undelete and move this page

Hello, Liz. Please undelete and move User:Isaac J Morris\Draft BaBa 2Switt to User:Isaac J Morris/BaBa 2Switt.

Details: Isaac J Morris is a mentee of mine who registered yesterday (18:31, 4 January 2026). He had time to create a draft article on his user page, and it was on my list to discuss with Isaac about moving it either to Draft space or to a user subpage. Before I could get to it, Escape Orbit moved Isaac's user page to User:Isaac J Morris\Draft BaBa 2Switt (diff), thus creating a new user page (note the backslash), instead of a subpage of Isaac's userpage. At that point, you noticed the userpage of a nonexistent user, and deleted it per U2 (log).

To remedy this unfortunate sequence of actions, could you please:

  1. undelete User:Isaac J Morris\Draft BaBa 2Switt
  2. move User:Isaac J Morris\Draft BaBa 2Switt to User:Isaac J Morris/BaBa 2Switt

Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:52, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

My bad. Should have noticed I was using a backslash rather than a forward slash. Apologies for the mess. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 10:14, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

2027 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships

I saw that you deleted this and/or its talk page. I think it might be notable, and would contest its proposed deletion, which I very rarely do. Bearian (talk) 07:34, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:29, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

FYI, and perhaps to look in.

We have posted a comment to a Talk page of a participant in the Renee Good article discussions, in hopes that they might convey our concerns in that restricted Talk space, where we cannot. Because the matters are so important, and fundamental to the encyclopedia, we convey them to you as well, as a longstanding and esteemed Admin. Please see User_talk:Alexandraaaacs1989#Giving voice..., and do as you think best. With regard, a former registered editor of long standing. ~2025-42222-78 (talk) 19:52, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) I've been staying away from editing that incident myself; it is a current event and current events tend to be unstable on Wikipedia, but the Wikipedia community very consistently eventually rights itself. It's unfortunate that some dedicated interests make it a point to disrupt editing of these sorts of topics, but it will subside, it always does. I don't mean to make a comment on the topic nor offer direct assistance at this time, I just noticed your comment here and thought you should be aware that you can make an edit request while the talk page is protected: please see Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for edits to a protected page where several requests have already been made. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:03, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Afd talkpages

Hello, hope you are well! I noticed Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/American hybrid warfare against Greenland during the second Trump administration and thought a Template:Right place could be fitting. But... what actually is the purpose of an afd-talkpage? Are you able to formulate something short and helpful on that? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:51, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Observations regarding a relatively new, SME/subject-dedicated user

For the sake of UX and general relations here, have a look in on the interactions that arose, at the last of our most recent series of edits, as posted here. We are not asking for any intervention here, regarding the unmerited, protective reversions—we will, as indicated in the discourse, wait 24-hours, so that a cooler heads might yet prevail. But the observation that rather than archive Talk page content, regular reversion and wholesale page blanking is done, and the fact that a host of policy-compliant edits have met with quick, accusatory, judgmental, and overly harsh (and simply inaccurate) responses—in the reverting edit summaries, and now in Talk—make me concerned for more broadly non-compliant editorial behavior that might be suggested by the ill-tempered responses (and masked by repeated blanking of Talk content). (I will check in again in 24-hours, in particular if there has not been self-reversion of the en mass reversion, such that the repeated WP:VERIFY violations we addressed are returned to the article in question.) With regard, a former registered editor of longstanding. ~2025-42222-78 (talk) 22:45, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2026 Issue 1

MediaWiki message delivery 00:30, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Three outline drafts slated for deletion

There are 3 outline drafts that I've slated for deletion by removing them from the outline draft tracker. There's either not enough coverage to develop a full outline, or there's a topic overlap problem. They will no longer be edited by me and will likely be routinely deleted by the draft namespace maintainers eventually.

They are:

  • Draft:Outline of wild cats (topic would be better served by an outline on cats or felidae)
  • Draft:Outline of typography
  • Draft:Outline of wave power

I'm telling you this so that you aren't alarmed when they pop up as unedited for 6 months.

Sincerely,    The Transhumanist   15:35, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Afghanistan Study Group

I am about to create this article through the redlink on Selig S. Harrison, and I saw that you've once deleted it, so I want to make sure I'm not missing something. There seems to be a good amount of independent coverage, such as this . TIA. Drew Stanley (talk) 16:11, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

That's an interesting deletion. Given that the study group was widely covered in the media including the NY Times, I'm surprised it was deleted. You might want to use WP:REFUND. Jahaza (talk) 20:02, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
Here are some additional RSs.. Jahaza (talk) 20:05, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
I have (re)made the page. I assume the issue is that the Harrison ASG is non-notable, while the more recent group is - I believe the note about the independent group is necessary since there is also coverage of that one (mostly on political commentary websites). Drew Stanley (talk) 18:16, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Happy 25th Anniversary of Wikipedia!!

Feel free to read my story at User:Interstellarity/My Story and join in for some Wikipedia-related fun. I hope you like it. Interstellarity (talk) 22:15, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Short Story by Hans Christian Anderson

Is every short story or tale by HCA notable just because it is by HCA? I see many of his stories that have their own page, but some that do not. It appears that some had a page, and then that page was removed. How would one know in advance? I wouldn't want to go to the effort of writing a page only to have it be deleted.

Again, this is specifically about HCA tales, not just a general question. Darryl.Kerkeslager (talk) 15:02, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Darryl.Kerkeslager,
I don't do a lot of editing in this area so I can't answer your question. My best guess is that articles are written on subjects where decent sources exist and there could be a lot of stories that haven't been analyzed by academics or folklorists. I think the only way you'd know that in advance is to start your research and if you can find a lot of supporting literature, then you can probably write a decent start article.
My other suggestion is to look at the articles that do exist and see which editors have worked on them in the past. Contact editors that have worked on this articles would be the best judges for these questions, and I hope a few are still active. Also, on the Talk pages for these articles, there are often WikiProjects listed and you can go to the talk pages for these WikiProjects and pose your questions there and hopefully there are still some interested editors around who could help you. Sorry I can't give you a more definitive answer.
If you have questions about editing in general (say, how to judge the quality of sources), then there is always the Teahouse where you can get some feedback from experienced editors. It's a friendly place. Good luck. Liz Read! Talk! 05:06, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
Thank you. I will check out the Teahouse page. Darryl.Kerkeslager (talk) 13:31, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

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What do you mean by test

Hi Liz, you have recently reverted on of my edit on Porepunkah police shootings and only provided the word "test" as a reason, what do you mean by this? Nightmares26 (talk) 04:28, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Nightmares26,
That was a bad edit summary but sometimes I edit when I'm in a hurry and the skin I used just fills in blanks with words I've used before in other situations. When I look at the edit now, I think I just agreed with the editor who removed that category from this article, I believe, because no one was convicted of murder. I'm sorry that I wasn't more clear about my intentions. Liz Read! Talk! 04:59, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Draft:Walter Steding

Hi Liz, can you please undelete Draft:Walter Steding? Requests for undeletion seems quiet right now. Steding just got a NY Times obit and I’d like to get the article started asap but can't remember if I had an extensive draft or not. Best, Thriley (talk) 06:17, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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you really deserve this Robloxguest3 (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

revdel request

As best I can tell, for every contribution by 119.224.60.232 (talk · contribs · IP contribs · WHOIS) that's after 10 September 2025 at 04:31 UTC (also, all over 6000 bytes of increased size) are suffused with copyright violations. I recognize "The Last Question" as having been copy-pasted into many of those edits, while others I don't recognize but reasonably assume are also copyvios. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 15:20, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, user:Fourthords,
I don't see any edits after 10 September. They stopped editing on 9 September. Can you tell me which pages you are concerned about? We don't often revision delete on User pages unless they are personal attacks because it is unlikely anyone will comb through the page history on an obscure editor who didn't edit here for very long. Liz Read! Talk! 19:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
Every edit they made after 10 September 2025 at 04:31 UTC is full of copyrighted material. For example, their very next edit (at 04:32), they pasted Asimov's short story, "The Last Question", into the talk-page history sixteen times; another example was at anarcho-punk thirteen minutes later, where they pasted some other work into the article history many times (at least eight, I think). — Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:36, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Restore request of Draft:Ferns N Petals

Hi Liz, I was about to create a page(Ferns N Petals) and saw that the page is deleted via AFD. I would like to request to restore the page on draft space so that I can improve the page. Thank you in advance Nomadwikiholic (talk) 05:23, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Restore request of Steven Laidlaw

Hi Liz, I would like to request to restore the page on draft space so that I can improve the page. Thank you in advance ScottishFootballObseasive (talk) ScottishFootballObseasive (talk) 12:44, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

notifications on my talk page

Is there a way to reduce the automated notifications? Other than telling to stop creating those pages...... That would be appreciated. Crafterstar (talk) 20:50, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

@Crafterstar (talk page stalker) what are you referring to? thetechie@enwiki:~$ she/they | talk 16:05, 4 February 2026 (UTC)
@TheTechie - They mean Liz making up 40% of their talk page history and editing it 344 times; @Crafterstar there is {{Twinkle opt-out}} that may be available soon and {{bots}} to get rid of Firefly bot, but hopefully a request to stop them would suffice. Sophisticatedevening(talk) 16:20, 4 February 2026 (UTC)
@Crafterstar you may want to enable talk page archiving. You can use Lowercase sigmabot III for this, that's what I use. thetechie@enwiki:~$ she/they | talk 16:32, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

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Wikipedian members of the People's Front of Judea

hey! I edited the code on the userboxes so the categories Category:Wikipedian members of the Party for Socialism and Liberation and Category:Wikipedian members of the Communist Party USA are no longer empty. 🐦DrWho42👻 01:26, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I have removed the tags NightWolf1223 <Howl at meMy hunts> 01:50, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

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Repurposing MyNetworkTV affiliates as Independent stations

Since you decided to delete the list of MyNetworkTV affiliates article following an article for deletion request, I decided to add them back onto the List of independent television stations page. This was a result of an archived discussion on the talk page of Television stations task force regarding its status as a broadcast network, and they agreed that MyNetworkTV affiliates are effectively independent stations according to Nielsen Media Research, with the secondary affiliations as a footnote. ~2026-65791-8 (talk) 02:00, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Deletion review for Template:WikiProject Writing/litspotlight1

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Template:WikiProject Writing/litspotlight1. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —⁠andrybak (talk) 14:01, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Reply to your message

Tag me if you reply here please. I didn't know if you'd see the reply on my page? The thing you described in the message on my talk page doesn't seem to match what I did. Which categories are the "replacement"? The only categories I replaced were replaced with existing categories that seemed to connect to more of the other categories. Late Night Coffee (talk) 03:52, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

@Liz I think I worked out what you mean now? I was confused by your message because I thought Category:Terrorism in the 2020s and Category:Terrorism in the 2010s counted as already "existing". They appear automatically on the header, e.g. Category:Terrorism_in_2010. But there were two pages I made for categories in that set, so I marked those pages for deletion, and deleted those categories from pages where I added them. I also undid the change I made on the header. I was trying to stop it auto generating near-empty categories, but I'm not really sure how it works, so I should have asked for advice first. Late Night Coffee (talk) 05:42, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2026 Issue 2

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Question about DraftAkam Rezaee

Hello Liz, I hope you’re well. I noticed you handled the deletion of the mainspace article for Akam Rezaee after it was moved to draft space. I understand this may have been a procedural step. I am the subject of the article, and I’ve been working professionally in film and visual effects for over 15 years. I’m currently improving the draft to make sure it follows Wikipedia’s notability and sourcing guidelines. If you have any guidance on what specific areas need stronger sourcing or changes, I would sincerely appreciate it. Akamxp (talk) 19:02, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

Unnecessary Redirecting

Hi, I hope you’re doing well. I noticed that User:502hsuya has been making some questionable redirects. For example, the article Khatarua was turned into a redirect without any clear explanation. You can see the revision here: . I don’t think this was appropriate, as the topic appears to meet notability guidelines. Could you please take a look into this matter? Thank you. Jesus isGreat7 05:46, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

I have already cleared that the redirects which I have done was only because those were stubs and has less sources than required or without any sources. I have no malice or anything from anyone. If you or anyone find these redirects problematic, you can revert them. Thank you! 502hsuya (talk) 09:04, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

G8 deletion

Hi @Liz! Following up from our exchange here, I saw that you deleted the redirect User:Skdb (WMF), which I had tagged with {{G8-exempt}}, but did not take any action on the other redirect. Was this intentional? Sdkb‑WMFtalk 06:28, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

Hello, User:Sdkb-WMF,
Are you sure? I tried to look at the page history of User:Skdb (WMF) and couldn't find any. I've been careful not to delete them when they showed up on the Broken Redirexts page. Liz Read! Talk! 09:15, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
Oops, I meant to refer to the redirect User:Sdkb (WMF), which you deleted here. Sdkb‑WMFtalk 15:14, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2026

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2026).

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  • Due to the result of a recent motion, a rough consensus of administrators at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard may impose an expanded topic ban on Israel, Israelis, Jews, Judaism, Palestine, Palestinians, Islam, and/or Arabs, if an editor's Arab-Israeli conflict topic ban is determined to be insufficient to prevent disruption. At least one diff per area expanded into should be cited.

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Category:Mass media franchises introduced in 2026

Hi Liz. I am pretty sure the category has not been moved (and now I have feeded it to the bot, so if one of us restores it the bot moves it to the target). Could you please have a look? I can restore it myself, no problem, but I would not do it without asking you first. Thanks. Ymblanter (talk) 06:40, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Ymblanter,
When questioned about these decisions, I feel it's easiest to restore the page and let another admin to review it. Tell me what you think. Liz Read! Talk! 07:23, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
In this particular case, it looks to me like a technical error: The deletion log says the page (the category) was moved, but the page history says it was not. I was about to restore it (and let the bot move it), but I know there are some people around watching my admin actions hoping to find something they could take me to ArbCom or to recall with, so I do not think it would be a good idea for me to unilaterally restore it. Anyway, thanks a lot for taking action. Ymblanter (talk) 07:45, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Mạch Ngọc Trân

I just added her negative content (there is a website source), but the user "User:SniffTest" maliciously deleted it. It must be a cyber army. Please give "User:SniffTest" a warning, Thank you! Valentino0322 (talk) 16:12, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi Liz!

I noticed your deletion there and just wanted to say, pleasure to meet you. ‎ ‎ BJayden (talk) 04:17, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

i just needa know if u get paid for this

do u get paid for this or what ~2025-38142-98 (talk) 04:40, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia editors are volunteers. There are some outside agencies that sell their services and make promises but they are mostly scam artists that collect money and don't deliver. But the vast majority of us, we just do this editing for education and entertainment. If you have other questions about Wikipedia, the best place to get answers is the Teahouse which is staffed by experienced editors just to answer questions like this. Liz Read! Talk! 04:46, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Message

can previous versions of this photo be deleted please:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nepal_Police_Club_seal.png#mw-jump-to-license ~2026-96302-4 (talk) 17:17, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

February 2026 meetup in Portland

Library entrance at NW 23rd and Thurman

Hey Liz,

You're invited to the February 2026 meetup in Portland, Oregon! Join us at the Northwest Library at 2:00 PM on Saturday, February 28.

Please RSVP at the link above, even if you might be interested, so we can know how many people to expect. Hope to see you there!

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Restore request of Eugenio Sena

Hi Liz, I would like to request to restore the page on draft space so that I can improve the page. Thank you in advance ScottishFootballObseasive (talk) ScottishFootballObseasive ScottishFootballObseasive (talk) 17:17, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

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Lâm Đức Thụ and Tôn-Thất An

I hope you can restore the content of these two entries. I think User:Ponyo is a "useful idiot"! YYY553366 (talk) 09:22, 20 February 2026 (UTC)

Hello, YYY553366,
I'm just an admin on the English Wikipedia, not WikiData. You'll have to find an admin on that platform. Good luck. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 20 February 2026 (UTC)
I mean the entries for "Lâm Đức Thụ" and "Tôn-Thất An" were maliciously deleted by "User:Ponyo". Can you restore them? YYY553366 (talk) 06:35, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
@Liz: SPI filed. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:54, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
.... and now blocked. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:32, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

Qualitative Research + Documentary for Wikimedia


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Shwa Losben Article Draft Restoration

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Hi Liz,

I’m reaching out about the deleted Shwa Losben article. I’m the subject (and aware of the COI guidelines), though I didn’t create the original page.

There are a number of independent sources that weren’t fully reflected before, including coverage in The Washington Post, DCist, NBC Philadelphia, and recent industry reporting in Deadline about a feature film I wrote.

Would it be possible to restore the deleted version to Draft space so I can improve it before any resubmission?

Thanks,

Porcinifan Porcinifan (talk) 04:46, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Porcinifan,
Have you reviewed the reasons for deletion in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shwa Losben? I just can't restore it to main space but you can work on a version in Draft space and submit it to WP:AFC. Liz Read! Talk! 06:14, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
Hi Liz — thanks for the clarification. Yes I've reviewed the reasons for deletion. Would you be willing to restore the deleted version to Draft:Shwa Losben (or userfy it to my userspace) so I can review the prior content and work from it? It would be helpful to see what was previously included before revising. Porcinifan (talk) 00:23, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Version history question...

I just removed URLs from two citations in an article that contained quite a number of 'odd' parameters like a user agent string, two email addresses, and hex strings. They were first added in the edit prior to mine. I don't quite know what all of them mean, but is this something that could/should be purged from the version history? Orxenhorf (talk) 06:08, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Orxenhorf,
Those links are to edits that you made, not me. Liz Read! Talk! 06:11, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
I made the first edit. TheUltimateGrass made the other one. What I'm wondering is, as an admin, do you think they should get purged to not be visible with all that extra info in them? Orxenhorf (talk) 06:14, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
We have millions of edits in the page history of different articles. I'm not sure what you mean by "purged". You can always go into the page history to find content that has bee overwritten by newer edits. Liz Read! Talk! 06:54, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
Probably not called "purging", but the thing that is done to copyright infringing text, personal attacks on talk pages, and I would think, user privacy issues whenever they come up. The revision's date changes to grey with a line drawn through it, and the links for "cur" and "prev" diffs are disabled. Does having a user-agent string from a browser, and/or the email addresses "botmanager_support@radware.com" and "noc@wikimedia.org" showing up fall under Wikipedia's definition of sensitive information that shouldn't be publicly visible forever? Maybe I should just forward it to the wikimedia.org address to let them figure it out. Orxenhorf (talk) 07:48, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

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Deferred to you by User:MPGuy2824

Sorry for the inconvenience but I would like clarification in regards to the deletion (and the removal of the deletion tag of my) talk page archive. I requested to be deleted under U1 which, while referring to user pages and subpages specifically, was (assumed by me) to be similar in usage for talk archives.

Here's a link to the discussion. Blitziko (talk) 10:20, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

You've Got Mail!

Hello Liz!

The Onijah Robinson article was deleted due to BLP sourcing concerns abd the BLP1E guideline. I'm currently reviewing additional coverage from several international sources and considering working on an improved version with stronger sourcing. Before moving forward, I wanted to ask if it would be possible to have the previous article restored to draft space so it can be improved or would you recommend creating a seperate article focused on the incident instead?

I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thank you. Philosophysubboy(talk) 20:42, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

Deletion of Cypronia

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Hi Liz, I saw that you deleted the Cypronia article, a non-American game studio from the early internet era with some popular games. Many sources are non-English, which makes verification tricky. I noticed the deletion caused a few broken links— 8 for Cypron Studios and 15 for Cypronia. The article is currently under re-deletion review, so I thought I’d mention it in case it’s useful. Thanks for all your work on Wikipedia! Best, Asceno (talk) 16:26, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Administrator Advice

Hello! I reached out to User:Ceranthor to discuss requests for RfA nominations first, but you have been such an inspiration to me that I wanted to talk to you as well about the work of an administrator. If it weren't for your encouragement, I would not be auto-patrolled today.

As you may remember, I have been a Wikipedia editor for more than a decade and have created more than 100 high quality pages, with more than 34,000 edits under my belt. However, I am not here to ask for a nomination to be an administrator. Although I believe that I would be a good fit for the role, I believe that I could do more and be a more outstanding member of this community. If you would be open to poking around my work and giving any notes, I would love to hear them.

Before you even have to search through them, I wish to disclose two errors from the past, both of which I would be forthcoming about in an administrator discussion. The first was more than a decade ago, when I first joined Wikipedia. I created a Wikipedia page for a tattoo artist named Sasha Unisex, one that I now clearly understand did not have the necessary sourcing. This was quickly noticed and deleted by User:Mike Rosoft, just as I would do today. Not understanding the space or the rules at the time, I vandalized his user page in a fit of rage, something easily undone and yet nonetheless wrong and hurtful. I was not even an adult then, and I certainly did not behave like one, something that I regret tremendously. I finally had the guts to write a formal apology on his Talk Page last year, and I have tried in the decade since to be a kind and inclusive member of our community. (Since he is also now tagged in this discussion, I'd be honored to receive his guidance as well, although I apologize for bothering him on a second page with this as well.)

The second error was a mass redirect discussion that I was involved in. Seeing literally thousands of redlinks as part of Supreme Court of the United States rulings, I decided to redirect them to the individual years of cases that they were ruled in, believing this could help law students and others seeking these older cases. However, after another user working to create new articles for SCOTUS case redlinks found that their project was complicated by my creation of redirects, a discussion over my good faith edits resulted in them being returned to redlinks. This did not stop me from receiving autopatrolling permissions, but it has impacted the percentage rate of my active edits. This was the case in which we first connected. Outside of this, I have never edited or created a page for money, and I hope that my work is able to speak for itself.

I want to be the best member of this community that I can be, since it means so much to me. Any feedback that you have on my path to administrator-dom would be amazing. I would also be happy to answer any and all questions. Thank you so much, once again! PickleG13 (talk) 00:18, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

Delete that did not happen?

Hi Liz. I'm confused by Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gravitational coupling constant. The consensus was delete but the result was redirect. It's talk:Gravitational coupling constantback in play sadly. Johnjbarton (talk) 19:16, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, please ignore. I think we have a fix. Johnjbarton (talk) 20:40, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

"Empty" categories

Tagging a brand new category for speedy deletion as "empty" three minutes after creation is premature. This is not even the first time this week that this has happened. Please allow a reasonable amount of time before applying tags. eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:58, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

Hello, eh bien mon prince,
I don't notice when a category was created. About 4 times a day, I do a search for Empty categories and tag the ones that I find. I'm sorry if this tagging came right at your heels. But honestly, I'm not sure how long to wait before tagging a category that is empty. An hour? Three hours? I'll try to be less "vigilant". Liz Read! Talk! 23:12, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

User:Nuttyprofessor2016

Hi @Liz, hope you are doing well.

I noticed that the user is active again and came across this ANI.

I was not sure whether reopening it would be appropriate or if some other action might be needed, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention.

Happy editing! Zuck28 (talk) 13:19, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

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DRV notice: Igor Lestar

Deletion review for Igor Lestar

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Quarry queries

I see three of your queries are failing on Quarry. You can replace those queries with the following ones. Quarry 102705, Quarry 102704 and Quarry 102703DreamRimmer 03:10, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, User:DreamRimmer, I was going to ask if you could review the ones I commonly use (I think there are about 6 or 7). I borrowed all of them from editors who are more skilled in writing and amending code so I'm rather helpless to fix them when things change on the other end. If you could still review those listed at the top of the page for my profile on Quarry, I'll be eternally grateful. Thank you for being so responsive, a skill I definitely need to improve on. Liz Read! Talk! 01:40, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm too involved to make the block

Responding to User_talk:LateNightCoffee#PLEASE_STOP! I'm too involved to make the block myself. But I think you'd be right to block them from at least category space, until they take other people's concerns seriously. SMasonGarrison 01:29, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, User:Smasongarrison,
I'm not sure how involved you are in this case, I just wanted a second opinion so thank you. I see this kind of thing a couple times a year, an overly enthusic new editor just goes overboard creating dozens and dozens of categories or redirects or sometimes an entirely new WikiProject overnight, usually. I'll see if things quiet down over the next hour. I hadn't thought of a namespace block but that's probably the best solution. Liz Read! Talk! 01:35, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
No worries! Happy to give the second oppinion! I've been keeping an eye on them for similar reasons. They've been at it for a couple of weeks with making overlapping categories. These kinds of editors have potential, but it is tough when they repeatedly go overboard. SMasonGarrison 01:40, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

User talk:Psiĥedelisto

Hi Liz! Would you be so kind to protect User talk:Psiĥedelisto. It is the account of Fredrick Brennan. He died in January. Indefinite semi would be great. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 17:41, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)  Done Star Mississippi 03:17, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
Thanks! Polygnotus (talk) 04:27, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

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Hello, I reverted a vandalism edit from a user that is now banned, because of the content and it being a FA, I was wondering if you could delete the revision per WP:RD2. I saw your name at Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests and thought maybe you could help. Thanks. Ajheindel (talk) 01:13, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Ajheindel,
 Done I think it's taken care of. I've also protected the article for a few days in case they come back. Liz Read! Talk! 01:20, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
Thanks! Ajheindel (talk) 01:22, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

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Jesse Edge

Hi Liz. I wanted to let you know that I removed the CSD tag you placed on the above article. The AFD was in 2014, and the article contains post-2014 information, so I don't see how it could possibly be identical to the deleted version. Given that, I don't think G4 applies here. You're welcome to take it to AFD if you still think it should be deleted. (Also, I'll admit that this is a very strange message for a non-administrator to give to an administrator. Shouldn't it be the other way around?) Chess enjoyer (talk) 06:20, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

WP:C1 and {{Wikipedia category}}

Hi Liz, I appreciate all the work you do in the maintenance space, but have some concerns that many of the empty categories you've tagged don't meet the CSD criteria.

WP:C1 says that it does not apply to project categories that by their nature may become empty on occasion, and also to Place {{Possibly empty category}} (or, for administrative categories, {{Wikipedia category}}) at the top of the page to prevent such categories from being deleted (emphasis mine). Many of your tags yesterday were on ineligible categories that had {{Wikipedia category}}, such as this one that's been used since 2011; it may be worth adjusting your search query to exclude any cats with this template?

Also a friendly request to please double check pages before tagging, as it appears you accidentally tagged this as empty. Thanks, nil nz 23:39, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Hmm

I know that editing takes a lot of craftsmanship and detailed information where you don't make a single mistake because any single is information can lead to world havoc right Noah Fearnelyy (talk) 10:27, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the deletion of Talk:Higglytown Heroes (2003 TV series) because i going through the tags list when I saw a talk page without an article. So I used the G8 template via Twinkle, and within 20 minutes after I put that in, it was deleted. Glad i caught it really quickly. ~ŤheŴubṂachine-840 23:20, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2026 Issue 5

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March 2026 meetup in Portland (online participation available!)

Northwest Library

Hey Liz,

You're invited to the March 2026 meetup in Portland, Oregon! Join us either in person at the Northwest Library or online at 10:00 AM on Saturday, March 28.

Please RSVP at the link above, even if you might be interested, so we can know how many people to expect. Hope to see you there!

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Balša Popović

Hey Liz, any chance you can drafity the article that was at Balša Popović, that page will likely pass GNG.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:38, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Quick CT editnotice request

AP applies to the article 2020s American renouncement of allies, so while you're online, could you make the edit notice of it for me please? :3 LS8 (ruikasa is 100% real) 05:15, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

"Timeline of X" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Timeline of X has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 March 19 § Timeline of X until a consensus is reached. Abesca (talk) 17:39, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

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