User talk:AnthonyCamp

Hi Anthony. I'd like to thank you very much for your most excellent and thorough research work on this curiously misattributed house. I'm trying to tidy up the article and the references/citations to meet Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I notice that two of your citations refer to the Principal Probate Registry (PPR) but do not have year dates. Could you possibly supply the years? (I'm guessing that since the deaths were both in September/October the year date for the probate registry may be for the following year for each death.

Here are the items in question:

The Revd George Bennett died at the Red House, 5 September 1915.^[1][2] His widow, Caroline Elizabeth Bennett, died there 4 September 1937.^{[3] [4]}

Thanking you in advance, Softlavender (talk) 23:54, 28 December 2015 (UTC).

Thank you very much indeed for your very kind words, but it is I who should be thanking you for your work on this article and for improving it considerably. I have checked my notes from the Principal Probate Registry calendars and the will of George Bennett was proved in London by his widow on 24 September 1915 and the will of Caroline Elizabeth Bennett was proved also in London on 12 October 1937. Both indicate some very fast work by their London solicitors! Today it would take quite a lot longer. These entries are online in the subscription website ancestry.co.uk. Thank you again for all your trouble.AnthonyCamp (talk) 11:09, 1 January 2016 (UTC).

Great! Thanks. :-) One (final) pair of dates, if you perhaps have them, this time for the two Crockford's references:

Shortly afterwards The Red House was occupied (and it seems owned) by the Revd George Bennett, former Head Master of Sarum Cathedral School (1881–90) and Rector of Folke, Dorset (1890–1903) and later Vicar of Rodmersham, Kent (1903–5) and Rector of West Quantoxhead, Bridgwater (1907–11).^[1] Bennett was, in fact, described as of the Red House in 1898,^[2] so he had presumably let the house to Colonel Legh for a short time.

Cheers, Softlavender (talk) 12:14, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, the dates of his early career came from Crockford, 1898, page 104, and then those for his later career from his obituary in the Western Gazette for 1 October 1915, page 5. I looked quickly at a later Crockford just to see that those later dates were correct but (slackly!) did not note any specific one, so perhaps that reference should be to the Western Gazette. Thank you once more. AnthonyCamp (talk) 13:58, 1 January 2016 (UTC).

Great! All airtight now. Thanks again for your great research work. Without your research, it would never have come to light that this whole facade and elaborate fable about the hotel is a house of cards. I had fun filling in some of the details and refining it. Often it takes teamwork on Wikipedia for an article to take its best shape. I admire your due diligence, and hope someday you might like to re-publish your book with all of the corrections on this and other matters that you have unearthed since you first published it. Happy 2016, and happy editing if you continue to spend time on Wikipedia! Softlavender (talk) 14:09, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Cheers, Anthony! Hope you are well. I'm stopping by to let you know that we do not use "op. cit." or "ibid." in Wikipedia citations, because any given single reference could get moved or removed. I have therefore fleshed out all of your citations on Lillie Langtry. One alternative is to list the work once in a section called "Sources", and then format individual citations in the format of: Surname (year), p. __. -- Softlavender (talk) 15:34, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

By the way, please let me know if you ever re-publish your book with all of your new information. Thanks again for your great research! Softlavender (talk) 15:35, 11 June 2017 (UTC).

Thank you very much indeed for your kind words and further help with this article and my poor efforts on Wikipedia. I published that book myself in 2007 because I could not find a commercial publisher who showed the slightest interest in it and I had wasted much time on futile correspondence and unanswered letters. I doubt that that situation will have changed and so although I would very much like to see a new edition, I have to be realistic and doubt that I shall live to see it. AnthonyCamp (talk) 08:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC).

Hmmm. Don't you think that with all of your new information, some of it rather explosive, more people might be interested in publishing it? Especially in this climate of very popular TV series and miniseries about monarchs? If I have any ideas, I'll let you know. Anyway, I certainly hope it happens! Softlavender (talk) 08:33, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you for your interest in my biography. The basic details of my biography have been on my Wikipedia User Page and on my web site since 2008 and I have not previously received any comment about their accuracy. Many of the details appeared in "Who's Who in Genealogy and Heraldry" (Gale, 1981; Filby & Meyer, 1990) and in "Debrett's People of Today" from 1990 to 1997, and they have appeared annually in "Who's Who" since 1993. AnthonyCamp (talk) 10:37, 30 March 2018 (UTC).

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Hello, I created an article for Phyllis Marion Gotch and you recently added a citation to this article saying that the authorship of a book attributed to her has been challenged. It is titled Once I had a home: the diary and narrative of Nadejda, lady of honour to Their Imperial Majesties, etc.. By coincidence there is a member of the Narishkin family buried in our Sussex village (David Vadim Vadimovich Narishkin) and I have been in correspondence with his half sister Vera (I believe she is second or third cousin of Obolensky) and obtained a copy of Prince Serge Obolensky's book "One man in his time". I have tried to find the reference you referred to on page 147 but so far have failed to find it. Any help you could provide on the wording of this section of text would help me to locate it. I wonder if Gotch co-authored or edited the book? She is still given as the author in the British Library catalogue. Ted Sidpickle (talk) 20:58, 3 December 2019 (UTC).

Thank you for your interest and I have given some further details of the claim and of the family members on the Talk Page of your article on Gotch. The reference at the bottom of page 147 of Prince Obolensky's book is given there in full. His mother was a Narishkin and I give reference to the pedigree of the family in Nicolas Ikonnikov's "La Noblesse de Russie", Tome K.1, pages 189-263 (Paris, 1960). That pedigree shows the connection to the illegitimate Vadime Alexandrovitch Narychkine (died 1952) under No 346. AnthonyCamp (talk) 09:38, 4 December 2019 (UTC).

Thanks for the update. The husband of Phyllis Gotch, supposedly Marquis de Verdieres, was a wrong'un. However, I cannot pin-point a reliable source to confirm, so I was unable to put down any of my findings about his family in the article. A newspaper piece in a French newspaper when he married Gotch called him Andre Schlossmacher. His father seems to be Georges Emmanuel Jean Schlossmacher 1851-1937. His mother probably Louise de Plàsman who died in 1900. However his stepmother was Marie Mathilde Icard 1867-1955 and her family can be traced back to Philippe Joseph Xavier de VERDIERE (see web page [Quelques illustrations de la lignée de Raismes http://www.virnot-de-lamissart.com/Raismes.html], search on Georges Schlossmacher). The story of the father, Schlossmacher and stepmother Icard, gets complicated with them divorcing in Monaco, however what makes it interesting is that the divorce notice calls her Dame Mathilde Icard de Verdieres. During the WWII it seems that Andre Schlossmacher/de Verdieres may have been a Nazi collaborator. There are two references in published French books indicating this, but not enough evidence to publish in Wikipedia. I never found out what happened to him despite trying making enquiries about the trials of collaborators in France. As you probably know Schlossmacher is a German name and I believe they came from Alsace-Lorraine area originally and one of their relations was someone in the Royal Court and lucky to survive an accusation of treason, although I need to dig out the details to confirm to facts. One of Andre Schlossmacher's uncles was a well known brass foundry manufacturer and known for producing brass lamps.

Sidpickle (talk) 21:02, 14 December 2019 (UTC) Ted

Just an update to last entry: I was wrong about the treason issue related to an ancestor, it was on the de Plasman side of the Schlossmacher family and related to the events of the French Revolution. This de Plasman was father of author Louis C De Plasman who in turn was grandfather of Louise de Plasman (believed to be mother of Andre Schlossmacher/de Verdieres). I do have correspondence somewhere from a member of the family who had some genealogy records from an aunt (now deceased). The records indicate that she ostracised Andre but would not disclose the reason, so that link has now been lost!

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Greetings, Thank you so much for your correction to my edit. On Olive's article it reads that she first claimed to be an illegitimate daughter of Cumberland, then later revised her story, so apparently that's where I got confused. I understand she revised her story a few times! Today I also found your webpage with information about this and other pretenders and found it quite interesting reading. Cheers. History Lunatic (talk) 00:35, 2 July 2020 (UTC)History Lunatic

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	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Hi Anthony, I just wanted to give you this to thank you for all of your diligent efforts in rooting out facts and towards preserving truth and accuracy on Wikipedia and elsewhere. Softlavender (talk) 05:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I greatly appreciate your very kind thought and your trouble in expressing it in this generous manner. Anthony. AnthonyCamp (talk) 10:00, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi AnthonyCamp. Thank you for your work on Bridgewater Square, London. Another editor, Klbrain, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

An interesting history for a London square; eloquently written. There's a bit of a political point made in the last sentence, but it's sufficiently neutral in tone that it seems reasonable to keep it; then again, 'contrary to the Act' is a statement not tested in court, so might well be objected to. I've addeed a few more links on the page, and linked it from elsewhere - something that helps to integrate the page better.

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