User talk:ArtSpaz

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Irene Clouthier, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a great rating for a new article, and places it among the top 23% of accepted submissions — kudos to you! You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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MCE89 (talk) 11:46, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the review and feedback. I recognize the move from Class C to Class B requires some clean up to address the gaps or clean up on writing but I'm afraid I don't know where to start.

The only thing I know for sure is that I saw references to Clouthier's involvement in the Floating Lab Collective (specifically a photograph in 2005 that I cannot seem to find). I'll keep trying to track that down with the founder of floating lab collective. Outside of that I'm not sure where the gaps are.

Is the bigger issue the writing, the gaps, or the resources? Do you have any recommendations on where to start? ArtSpaz (talk) 14:46, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi! To be honest I wouldn't really worry too much about the content assessment grades — apart from grades GA, A and FA, which have specific assessment processes, the other grades are just a fairly rough indication of an article's quality. You can refer to the specific criteria at WP:GRADES. In terms of suggestions on improving the article, the main thing that stands out is that there are still a handful of unsourced statements. As a few examples, these statements don't yet have citations:

• ...has lived and worked in the Washington DC metro area since 2000
• ...and the Floating Art Collective.
• Clouthier's first solo show was at the Antonio Lopez Saenz Gallery, Culiacan (1998) in Mexico followed by her first U.S. solo show at the Mackey Gallery (Formerly 527) in Houston, Texas (2000). She has since held several solo shows internationally.

There are also some places where the source does not fully support the information in the article. For instance, the paragraph that begins In 1987, Clouthier's father, Manuel (often referred to as Maquio), ran for the presidency of Mexico... is sourced only to this article, which doesn't verify all of the information in that paragraph.

So my main suggestion for improving the article would just be to focus on source-text integrity and make sure that everything in the article is backed up by a reliable secondary source. Hopefully that helps — let me know if you have any other questions! MCE89 (talk) 15:02, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to help me. Your feedback really put a lot of things in perspective. I have an idea of where to pull more resources and build out some notes. ArtSpaz (talk) 04:02, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against naming conventions or consensus. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains underway. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:46, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello, ArtSpaz,

Please stop pointlessly moving around your draft article to unsuitable namespaces. If you continue, you will lose your editing privileges. If your draft article is ready to be reviewed, then submit it to WP:AFC so it can be evaluated. But don't move drafts to project/Wikipedia namespace or to an orphaned talk space or it might just be deleted next time.

If you have questions about draft articles or page moving, then bring them to the Teahouse where experienced editors can off you advice, support and a second opinion. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:49, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

I saw your comment on another editor's User talk page that you don't know how to submit a draft article for review. WP:AFC gives instructions on how to do this but basically, you post {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Hey ArtSpaz, I wanted to let you know that I have closed the peer review page you opened for Draft:Edgar Endress. The peer review process is only for existing articles; I see you've already submitted it to Articles for creation, which is the correct process to use for drafts. A reviewer will be along to leave feedback on your submission shortly, but please let me know if you have any questions! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:21, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry to cause trouble. I appreciate all the help. 2601:151:C300:20:F485:5696:DF45:2653 (talk) 16:23, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

No worries, it was no trouble at all, but make sure you're signed in before editing! :) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:24, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Clearly on a roll... will do! ArtSpaz (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2025 (UTC)