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Whoop whoop gonna party in the old hostel tonite!!! Thanks for the links, have to go thru the images and adjust the placement.... ThanksRobco311 03:43, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
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| Your article She-She-She Camps is wonderful! You've done such a great job. I hope you plan on continuing to write such interesting articles for Wikipedia. I certainly appreciate your work Bfpage |leave a message 11:42, 13 April 2015 (UTC) |
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When I was a new editor like you, I was alarmed by some of the messages that kept appearing on my talk page that let me know about all the mistakes that I had made. I got a little discouraged over this and didn't know or interact with any other editors. I begin to edit on Wikipedia in 2007, but didn't even get one message of any kind from another editor or bot until late 2013! At that time, I even doubted the existence of other editors since I had never heard from any of them. THEN the very first message I got from anyone was from an administrator that said she was going to BAN me from editing because I had written some spam! How about that for a first message?
Anyway, the purpose of this message is to let you know that you can delete anything from your talk page that you want. I've deleted some things, things that other editors wrote that weren't very nice. So this message is to encourage you in your writing. Your work has been quite amazing for being so new. You learn SO quickly and with so many interesting facts and info. Isn't that photo on Henning amazing? I was so lucky to find it - and it was copyright free. I'll do some more editing to help you out, but you are learning so fast that you are not going to need me for very much longer. I am enjoying helping. The Very Best Regards,
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Yes, I wanted to use that pic from the first, but couldn't figure out if it was publix. Thanks, your help has been invaluable, I left a note in talk at hemmings....Robco311 19:50, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
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I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:41, 13 May 2015 (UTC) |
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Speedy deletion nomination of SMOKESTACK HARDY

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A tag has been placed on SMOKESTACK HARDY requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.
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- Hi. I'm confused too. The version I deleted contained no information, just a question from you. And there is no such page as User:BeeCeePhoto/SMOKESTACK HARDY. The log suggests that User:RHaworth restored the deleted revisions, but I don't see them. Deb (talk) 11:33, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- I found it! The draft is currently located at User:BeeCeePhoto/Smokestack Hardy where it should be improved before submitting it for review at AFC. It is currently not in an acceptable state. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:40, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, any thoughts as to whats lacking, or the direction thats missing? I'm no expert, so speculation about the nature of Hardys peculiar obsession with fires, and the compulsion he had with keeping records with a germanic mindset to details points to him suffering a form of Asperger syndrome, which it would be interesting to explore, but he was normal in most respects.
I have encountered others who have the same complusion, in the 70's I hung out with a crew of Ham Radio Operators, who went about their lives normally, but had no other real interests (other than bowling league) who entered a world of postcards in their radio rooms. Some had 3000 or more collected, from around the world, that was a response sent them from a midnight contact, however brief, on the radio. Every night they entered that world, and attempted to make contact thru a ionosphere bounced signal propagated around the globe to set up a postcard mailing. Thousands of hours, night after night, mountains of days tweaking their rigs and antennas, all in pursuit of another postcard. Kind of like wikipedia editors, if you catch my drift. Robco311 11:44, 14 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BeeCeePhoto (talk • contribs)
- I'd have to agree with Dodger - lots of work needed. I'd recommend you spend some time looking at other articles and noting how they differ. There's little evidence of notability. Deb (talk) 13:14, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Your other draft Draft:Vulcan blazers is becomming fairly good - after a bit of a false start - so follow your own example. She-She-She Camps, which you created earlier, is also a quite decent example. It seems like you do actually know what an article is supposed to look like. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:34, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- I am very disappointed to see phrases such as "how to find it" or "I don't see them". If you follow the red link to the original page do you not see the words "moved page"? Surely you automatically follow the link to the stated destination of the move? Also Deb and BeeCeePhoto, are you aware of a useful report called contribs history which shows where the text has landed up?
- I have to admit that I and probably Zackmann08 (talk · contribs) saw the shouted title and automatically assumed vandalism. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:37, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- BeeCeePhoto, I assume you are using a custom signature in your preferences that signs you as Robco311. By all means call yourself by a different name but will you please set up a signature that provides a link to your user page, your talk page or your contributions history, preferably all three so that the SignBot does not keep following you around. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Your other draft Draft:Vulcan blazers is becomming fairly good - after a bit of a false start - so follow your own example. She-She-She Camps, which you created earlier, is also a quite decent example. It seems like you do actually know what an article is supposed to look like. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:34, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- I'd have to agree with Dodger - lots of work needed. I'd recommend you spend some time looking at other articles and noting how they differ. There's little evidence of notability. Deb (talk) 13:14, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Whoa buddy!! Thats no mah dog!~ I only have a sausage in my pocket and I don' knoa why he's in the bar....
Still learning the lingo, but sometimes an editor moves something and by the time I've figured out where it ended up I've already zoned out on the search~~
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Some pointers
Okay, here are some issues with your first sentence:
"Arthur Smokestack Hardy is a professional fire Buff, Photographer, Black Fire Historian and collector of fire memorabilia who was the first African-American firefighter in Baltimore."
The words Buff, Photographer, Black, Fire and Historian should not have capital letters. You have linked "professional fire Buff" with a term that doesn't exist in wikipedia (hence the red text) and, even if it did exist, it does not mean anything like "professional fire Buff". Presumably "Smokestack" is a nickname, not a real name, so it should be inside quotation marks. And you should provide a citation for him being the first African-American firefighter in Baltimore. Deb (talk) 17:47, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, noted. The Professional fire buff is a pejorative, an inside joke among police and firemen. They buy 2-way radios, know the slang used on the job, and get there to a 'job' before the uniforms do. I will adjust it to 'fire buff', as this guy was the most famous of them all. I don't want to explain all the details, like 'buff' from the stand-arounds at a fire in the 1890's snug and warm in their buffalo coats watching but not helping, and getting water thrown on them... 'black fire historian' because he chased that info down relentlessly, so there is room for improvement in the phrasing that I won't see until tomorrow. It helps to have someone point this out now, while it's still in draft... Thanks Robco311 18:12, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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Copyright problems on the Vulcan Blazers draft
Please take care when adding content to the Vulcan Blazers draft that you do not simply copy text directly from the sources - you must restate the information in your own words. Directly copying is not permitted (it is in fact illegal, not merely a Wikipedia rule). And before you ask, no it does not make a difference if it's from the subject's own website or even if you personally are the author of the original source text - it is still copyright of the website owner.
A paragraph has been copied from this source and another from this one (there is also a correctly done direct quote from that source). You may make limited use of direct quotes if the particular wording in the source is important enough to preserve. Such quotes must however be clearly marked as quotes by punctuation and the source must be referenced directly after the closing quotation mark. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Thats the legal jargon that I'm having issue with. Perhaps I can find a way to reword, but I originally referenced it along with all the other legal stuff. Robco311 (talk) 13:54, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Stopping in to say HEY!
You did such an amazing job on She-she-she camps I want to make sure you don't lose your momentum! Did you need any other support that you think I can provide with any new content? The president of your fan club,
- Bfpage |leave a message 19:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
It's really nice of you to stop by and offer encouragement. A barnstar for you! I am stuck between 3 editors who want me to clean up my drafts on 2 articles. Draft:Arthur "Smokestack" Hardy and Draft:Vulcan blazers are in progress but the editors are looking to remove some material that I feel essential to the subject. They are in AFC so I you have any insi8ght as to the overall Balto situation, let me know what needs improvement so I can fix it soonest..... Thanks again for the encouragement Robco311 (talk) 01:08, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Anita Florence Hemmings
Hello. I have just patrolled (and worked on) the article you created. The topic is very interesting. I would just like to invite you to read wp:COATRACK. Article content really has to stay on topic. Long digressions about conditions at the the time for blacks, or the subjects daughter, or husband, or school, or biographer etc. may be interesting, but they just don't belong in the article. I have cut down to directly related content and reorganized into more standard sections. If I accidentally removed relevant, on-topic content or sources, please feel free to restore it. You can copy paste it from old versions of the article. Anyways, great topic and good start. Happy editing! Happy Squirrel (talk) 01:49, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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Ramnath88 (talk) 07:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Arthur “Smokestack” Hardy has been accepted

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Sulfurboy (talk) 22:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Vulcan blazers (June 18)

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You have a long rant on Institutional racism regarding aboriginal issues.You have also said the following:
The collective failure of an organization to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their colour, culture, or ethnic origin. Thats what defines Institutional Racism. I wrote of the failure of the church to provide services in canada to the ethnic children rendered into its care, not about the residential schools. You removed that and replaced it with plagarized material explaining the residential schools. The fact that the church ran the schools needed that backdrop to show the continued, ingrained racism, not of the individuals, but of the system that allowed social workers(gov't) to remove babies from mothers, children from their families, and deliver them to a chop shop (residential schools) where TB infected kids were bedded with healthy kids whom had no immunities, abused and neglected, and left dying at a higher rate than if they had been left alone in their pagan villages. The worst of the abuse was doled out to the ones who were not christians (by Clerics and staff). Stop trying, you cannot change the past. If you want to write about the schools, be my guest. I'm writing about institutional racism - the two are not the same Robco311 (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
This - details the lenghts to which others have gone to remove and whitewash the extent of the crimes perpetrated against the First Nations. 2 paragraphs is not enough to go into all the attempts to cover up a 'final solution', a termed coined at the highest level of government 35 years prior to the NAZI's using it for their own pogroms against their victims. There is no need to link it to the main article, the citations in it validate every sentence made. Stories of buried priests babies being dug up and moved when the schools closed should horrify everyone, you choose to remove that truth to serve your agenda. The section is not about the Aboriginal Truth and Reconciliation Commission, it is about institutional racism. Let it stand for others to hack at, you should stand away. Robco311 (talk) 08:33, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
I have told you to put this on other well-moderated sites like the Canadian Indian residential school system or other well-moderated Wikipedia pages, and you refuse to do so. WHY? Beyond the fact that I advised that feedback from other editors help support your statements, and beyond the fact that they would probably recommend better choice of words, and beyond the fact that it would prevent an edit war, why are you resistant in doing this? It seems that if you want people to know about the residential school system, then you should tell them. You rant about not whitewashing the issue and removing the truth, and people not talking about what happened in the residential school system, but when I encourage you to tell people about it (through editing Wikipedia pages), you do nothing. You are being hypocritical. You rant that people shouldn't be silent on the residential school experience, but then you are silent on the experience.DivaNtrainin (talk) 22:28, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Your timetable for me advancing your agenda is not up for discussion. I am not editing the residential scchools, which you seen intent on whitewashing, I am discussing why systematic racism occurs in institutions, and you want to clear the churches of involvement. They were involved, and you are vandalizing pages to neutralize their involvement, adding sentences to make it seem as if what happened was bad, but we don't do that anymore.(But only in the Canada section...) Your attempts to show that I should be editing an unrelated topic (residential schools) rather than showing truths about Institutional racism perpetrated by the gov't and the churches to further a racist agenda against an ethnic population smacks of... need I say it? (Institutional racism.) Making it seem that I'm refusing to edit the article on residential schools is a load of horsepucky. A nun throwing a child from the window of a three story building is an atrocity. You whitewashing articles that point out that this may have occurred is an atrocity. Your removal of sources detailing this occurred is an abomination. Your whitewashing the facts surrounding the violence perpetrated against native women, (a vagina brought to court to show what, the hole in it or that that person's life does not matter becuz' she was just an Injun...) Every article you deleted sentences and paragraphs from to try to change the facts to controversy are an affront to the tenets of good journalism, and deleting sources should be enough to get you banned permanently. this coming from a very bad writer... Robco311 (talk) 20:02, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Institutional racism

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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I've made attempts to resolve this, the other editor, DivaNtrainin (talk) has a prior history reverting edits to engage in an edit war regarding Canada issues.... Robco311 (talk) 20:20, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
June 2015
Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Institutional racism. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. NeilN talk to me 23:44, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Every sentence was sourced, they were wholesale removed by your partner. Robco311 (talk) 23:50, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- You might want to read Wikipedia:Citing sources. --NeilN talk to me 23:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm working on transferring the cites, more than 40sec is required Robco311 (talk) 23:54, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- Please add the cites with the text and tags like <big> don't go in articles. --NeilN talk to me 00:01, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- You might want to use your sandbox to prepare the content. --NeilN talk to me 00:02, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Please stop continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to. This may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your account being blocked from editing. NeilN talk to me 01:18, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
You seem to have a problem with material sourced and cited from other wikipedia pages. None of the material cited is from an un-sourced POV, they have already been vetted. Post no more unless you can find errors of fact not sourced.
to you too... Robco311 (talk) 01:29, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- As I stated on the talk page, much of the material is problematic and written horribly non-neutrally. --NeilN talk to me 01:33, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Soon achieved, with no help on your part, thanks. Robco311 (talk) 01:38, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
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See my talk page.
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