User talk:Bulleid Pacific

I have looked at the sandbox and will start making some comments here tomorrow - my comments will be nitpicks, but wanted to give you a heads up. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think there should be a space between "2-" and "cylinder" in The LSWR N15 class was a British 2– cylinder 4-6-0 express passenger steam locomotive... or is this a railway convention?
• Missing word? Robert Urie completed his H15 class mixed-traffic 4-6-0 design in 1913 and the prototype [was?] built in August 1914.\
• Missing article (or is this train lingo?) It incorporated features from the H15 class, including eight-wheel double bogie tenders with outside plate frames over the wheels and [an?] exposed Walschaerts valve gear.[5] Or is it plural? ... and exposed Walschaerts valve gear[s].[5]?
  • "and exposed Walschaerts valve gear" is correct: "gear" here is in the sense of "apparatus" or "equipment", not "cog wheel", so is plural already. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:33, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
• The MOS says to spell out primary units like imperial gallons on first use (can abbreviate after), so fix imp gal in ...although strengthened during construction with extra internal bracing to hold 5,000 imp gal (22,700 l) of water.[7]
• The MOS also suggests spelling out per cent in things like The Urie boiler was retained, though the Eastleigh superheater was replaced by a Maunsell type with 10% greater superheating surface area.[6]
• There are some terms that seem like they should be linked, like Hammer blow
• Are the two clauses in this sentence logically connected? If so, the connection is not clear to me The company had under-quoted to gain the contract, and the necessity to maintain an intensive timetable on the Southern Railway’s Western section meant that the order was increased to 30 locomotives (Nos. E763–E792).[16]
  • I wonder if the sentence could be split with a bit added: The company had under-quoted to gain the contract, which would cause problems later. The necessity to maintain an intensive timetable on the Southern Railway’s Western section meant that the order was increased to 30 locomotives (Nos. E763–E792).[16]
• I think I would say explicitly that 14 were built here After [the first 14 (]Nos. E793–E806[)] were built, it was decided to discontinue construction in favour of Maunsell’s new 4-cylinder Lord Nelson class design in June 1926.[17]
• I would at least link Herbert Ashcombe Walker in When Maunsell was told of the decision to name the locomotives, he replied: "Tell [Sir Herbert Walker] I have no objection, but I warn you, it won't make any difference to the working of the engines".[20] you might add a bit of explanatory text too.
• Deputised here is not a usage I am familiar with From 1945 the King Arthur class regularly deputised for Bulleid’s new Pacifics, which were experiencing poor serviceability due to mechanical failures. would "were substituted" be OK? or "took over duties"?
• Unclear which plate is meant here These resulted in the plate design illustrated above, and were gradually fitted to the class from late 1927 onwards.[28]
• Identify by nickname the poor performance batch here Under LSWR ownership, the N15s were initially well-received by crews, though Nos. 736–755 [(the fill-in-the-blank Arthurs)] soon gained a reputation for poor steaming on long runs.[6]
• I would specify the year here instead of "recently" Recently restored to British Railways Brunswick green livery, as of 2010 No. 30777 can be seen at the Great Central Railway and on the railway network hauling mainline railtours. [67]

O, that's it - looks very good already, these are just some very nit-picky suggestions. Hope they help, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:30, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, will work through this in due course. --Bulleid Pacific (talk) 20:13, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Done.--Bulleid Pacific (talk) 22:08, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Re the passage "Tell [Sir Herbert Walker] (the General Manager of the Southern Railway) I have no objection, but I warn you, it won't make any difference to the working of the engines". I have the book in question, and the actual quote shown by Nock is "Tell Sir Herbert I have no objection, but I warn you, it won't make any difference to the working of the engines!". The exclamation point aside, Nock uses the words "Sir Herbert", so whilst it's admissible to insert "[Walker]" by way of clarity, it's incorrect to put the square bracket around "Sir Herbert" as well. I would also suggest changing the order of the sentences to place the nicknames after Maunsell's remark, as being closer to chronological sequence, something like this:

When the former Drummond G14 and P14 4-6-0s were rebuilt to Maunsell’s N15 specification in February 1925, the Southern Railway decided to give names to all express passenger locomotives. Because of the railway's association with the West of England, the Public Relations Officer, John Elliot suggested that members of the N15 class should be named after characters and places associated with the legend of King Arthur.^[1] The first G14 to be rebuilt, No. E453, was given the first name and christened King Arthur. The Urie locomotives (hitherto referred as N15s rather than King Arthurs) were also given names connected with Arthurian legend and were referred to as "Urie Arthurs"; the Maunsell batches of N15s were nicknamed the "Eastleigh" and "Scotch Arthurs". When Maunsell was told of the decision to name the locomotives, he replied: "Tell [Sir Herbert [Walker] (the General Manager of the Southern Railway) I have no objection, but I warn you, it won't make any difference to the working of the engines".Walker was was the General Manager of the Southern Railway, who had told Elliot that Maunsell's permission was required. The first G14 to be rebuilt, No. E453, was given the first name and christened King Arthur. The Urie locomotives (hitherto referred as N15s rather than King Arthurs) were also given names connected with Arthurian legend and were referred to as "Urie Arthurs"; the Maunsell batches of N15s were nicknamed the "Eastleigh" and "Scotch Arthurs".^[2]

This also brings the explanation of who Walker is outside the quote. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:30, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks. --Bulleid Pacific (talk) 01:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm just doing a review of Holt Manufacturing Company for an editor who has massively expanded the article over the past week. He's put it forward for a DYK (due in the next day or so?) and is considering GA too. It's nothing arduous at the moment, just a proof-read to make sure everything is nicely readable (it's mostly created by one editor) with plenty of links. So, if you'd like to join in... (Check the history, and you'll see what I've done so far.)

Holt was a pioneering US manufacturer of steam tractors, formed in the late 19th century, and went on to become Caterpillar Inc. Although not about Southern steam locos, I'm sure you'd find it interesting.

I've noted you haven't edited for a few days, so no need to apologise if the DYK comes and goes before you see this request!

EdJogg (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

How about nominating your article on the SR Leader Class for Today's Featured Article? It would be a lovely article for the main page, but obviously I thought I ought to ask the main contributors before nominating. I've written a little blurb below: Bob talk 20:09, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

The only problem with the 'Today's Featured Article' feature is that it sets articles up as targets for vandalism. The last one to have this treatment was the N15, and we had to get a team of editors to watch over it. As for me, I don't have the time at present to do much on Wikipedia, although I have got a couple of articles that I have been working on ready to be assessed for GA prior to further advancement. --Bulleid Pacific (talk) 22:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Re this edit (section "Design and construction"): it's not really the smokebox that is fitted with these components, but the boiler, although they may all be contained within the smokebox. The superheater header is almost always inside the smokebox, but the superheater elements themselves - which do the actual job of superheating the steam - are inside the boiler flues. The regulator valve is fitted between the steam pipe from the dome and the superheater header. The snifting valves are between the superheater header and the pipes to the steam chest: they prevent a vacuum forming in the cylinders when the loco is coasting with the regulator shut. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Changed to 'housed'. --Bulleid Pacific (talk) 17:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

This diff re-added the 'e' to Mort[e]hoe. This must have been spelt deliberately in the first place, as it was there as a piped link, but the Bulleid Society page shows the conventional form of the name.

Could you double-check in your refs please? -- EdJogg (talk) 13:17, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Bradley, D.L. (1976). Locomotives of the Southern Railway: Part 2. London: RCTS. pp. 76, 107. ISBN 0 901115 31 2. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) has Mortehoe. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:07, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Whoever had added it originally used this spelling intentionally (piped link), and Mortehoe and Woolacombe railway station was known as 'Morthoe' for the first 25 years or so, hence I needed proper confirmation.

EdJogg (talk) 14:38, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

This is a note to let the main editors of SR West Country and Battle of Britain classes know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on March 8, 2013. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 8, 2013. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegates Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), Gimmetoo (talk · contribs), and Bencherlite (talk · contribs), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you can change it—following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:

The SR West Country and Battle of Britain classes, collectively known as Light Pacifics or informally as "Spam Cans", are classes of air-smoothed 4-6-2 Pacific steam locomotive designed for the Southern Railway by its Chief Mechanical Engineer Oliver Bulleid. A total of 110 locomotives were constructed between 1945 and 1950, named after West Country resorts or Royal Air Force and other subjects associated with the Battle of Britain. Incorporating new developments in British steam locomotive technology, both classes were amongst the first British designs to utilise welding in the construction process, and to use steel fireboxes, which meant that components could be more easily constructed during the wartime austerity and post-war economy. They were designed to be lighter in weight than their sister locomotives, the Merchant Navy class, to permit use on a wider variety of routes. They were a mixed-traffic design, equally adept at hauling passenger and freight trains. The classes operated until July 1967, when the last steam locomotives on the Southern Region were withdrawn from service. Although most were subsequently scrapped, 20 locomotives found new homes on British heritage railways. (Full article...)

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