User talk:Catjacket

Hi Catjacket. You added references to "Mendy 2013" to Bissau, but no such work is defined in the article. Could you added the required cite to the Sources section, or let me know what work this refers to? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 12:17, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. Confusion between different editions of the same book. I'm still working on the history section, but I'll fix this ASAP. Catjacket (talk) 12:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Carjacket. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 12:29, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to Ghana Empire, would you be interested in a taskforce on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 19:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely!! I've never worked on a Wikipedia taskforce before, but very excited to participate. How does it work? Catjacket (talk) 02:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

It’s a place for people to collaborate on improving Wikipedia’s coverage of oral tradition. It’s still very nascent so there are lots of things that need to be done and what exactly it’ll involve hasn’t been completely clarified, at the moment we’re discussing the scope. Anybody can suggest initiatives on the talk page and edit the main page (there’s no leaders, it relies on consensus) and give ideas. I recommend seeing WP:WikiProject Kowal2701 (talk) 06:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, sorry I should’ve said earlier but we’re working on Draft:Oral traditions of the Soninke people if that’s something you might be interested in? None of us speak French so we can’t access a lot of the literature Kowal2701 (talk) 10:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

For sure, I'll take a look and see what I can contribute. I speak French, are there any paticular sources that y'all need help integrating? Catjacket (talk) 18:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

I haven’t been able to have a proper look but there’s a couple mentioned in Conrad and Fisher’s “The conquest that never was”, I’ll give the links in a sec Kowal2701 (talk) 19:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

We’re looking at rewriting the sections on epics so that they’re summaries rather than transcriptions and translations Kowal2701 (talk) 19:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

There's fr:Bida (mythologie), and Legende by Monteil (I can't find a link) Kowal2701 (talk) 19:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, I responded on the talk page. I think that nominating this article for speedy deletion is unnecessary and harsh. Tagging the page with 'More citations needed' or something would have been better. If the link in the population information is dead, you can just mark the link as such. It's copied from the original page on the French wikipedia. I acknowledge that I should have checked if the link worked, but that's got nothing to do with AI chatbots. For the ISBN thing, a simple search in Google books would have brought up the Gomez book and proven that the source is legit. Do your homework before accusing people of using chatbots. Catjacket (talk) 17:31, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Edit on Sack of Old Oyo:

Hello, is aw you edited, my Wikipedia page, and edited something completely different? That had nothing to do with my page? Maybe you an make as standalone wiki page on a separate sack of old oyo you're discussing? Because this has nothing to do with my sack of old oyo, that not only has more sources, but older, more credible, by yoruba historians in the 19th century. I just want to know why you deleted everything on my wikipedia, and wrote a random write up, with barely any sources. This wikipedia took weeks, of editing, and requiring multiple wiki mods revciewing the evidence of both sides. Again, can you explain why you removed basically my page, and sourced a different sack, or fall to the one i'm discussing? I think actions like this can fall under requirements for a report, if you don't explain.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oluwafemi1726 (talk • contribs) 19:32, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello, i Saw you edited, my Wikipedia page, and edited something completely different? That had nothing to do with my page? Maybe you an make as standalone wiki page on a separate sack of old oyo you're discussing? Because this has nothing to do with my sack of old oyo, that not only has more sources, but older, more credible, by yoruba historians in the 19th century. I just want to know why you deleted everything on my wikipedia, and wrote a random write up, with barely any sources. This Wikipedia took weeks, of editing, and requiring multiple wiki mods reviewing the evidence of both sides. Which can be seen her ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sack of Old Oyo ),

• furthermore, your "sources" the oldest, one is 1959, again, i think anyone that's being neutral can see i have more "ancient", or "grounded" sources, that link directly to people that lived in that error, (1800's) Like arguably the most accredited Yoruba Historian Samuel Johnson. Even in the battle box, he removed the Sokoto caliphate, when Ilorin was under the leadership of it, and completely ignored the fact that after this, led directly to fula settlements in Yorubaland. All of this can easily be found by reading The history of the Yorubas : from the earliest times to the beginning of the British Protectorate, by Samuel Johnson, which is by far the most accredited Yoruba historical book prior to colonialism. Again, can you explain why you removed basically my page, and sourced a different sack, or fall to the one i'm discussing?
• This is evident, as you removed my soruce which goes into detail, the sacking, and how towns left, like "All the towns owing "any allegiance to Oyo, and hence Gbodo was besieged"[1. While your "sources", you didn't cite a single one, or have any real reference, in context to where you put them in your text. its obvious you just looked up random sources, to cite in your wiki page, that you didn't read.
• My sources, citations, i put direct quotes which you didn't. every citation goes directly, to the text/narration of the part of the page its cited in. And i again, included the oldest document in both of our edits, and arguably the most important, and detailed book on yoruba history, prior to colonialism.

I don't appreciate you just removing, my wikipedia , and adding a shorter one, with less "official" sources, with no quotes, for no reason. This is grounds for reporting, so i'd appreciate a response.

Oluwafemi1726 (talk) 21:00, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I responded on the Talk:Sack of Old Oyo page. Let's discuss there, since it's only about that article. Catjacket (talk) 21:34, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, hope you're well, just in case you didn't catch it, UNESCO's released two more volumes of the General History of Africa, volumes 9 and 10, might find them useful Kowal2701 (talk) 00:58, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

oh shiiiiiiit Christmas comes early! thanks! Catjacket (talk) 09:21, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Btw you might be interested in fr:Royaume du Bandial? It's a World Heritage Site (somehow) Kowal2701 (talk) 23:12, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Relax it's tentative lol. Doesn't look like there's much information on the 'kingdom' of Bandial. I've heard of these houses, but not of a kingdom around them. Probably more of a village-level chiefdom, since the Jola famously didn't have kings. I will add some info to Bandial, but a separate article doesn't seem necessary. Catjacket (talk) 08:20, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi Catjacket, if you had to add one or two more sentences to User:Kowal2701/sandbox#Western Sahel and Sudan (covering 7th century–c. 1800), what would they be? It's for History of Africa Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 19:37, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

Senegambia is probably not going to coverage in other sections, so maybe something about Jolof's collapse into Serer and Wolof states? Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 19:51, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

There are a number of things I would change about this paragraph, not just add some content on Jolof. This is your project so I don't want to step on your toes, but do you mind if I rewrite it? Obviously you can take or toss whatever you like from what I put in. But based on my overall reading I don't think that Takrur was ever a vassal of Ghana, Awdaghost wasn't the capital of Ghana, and a couple other things. Catjacket (talk) 20:54, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

Yeah that's okay, go ahead. I copied the Takrur bit from History of Africa#The western Sahel and Sudan which I thought you wrote IIRC? IIRC Conrad and Fisher just say Aoudaghost was a royal seat rather than the capital, but worth checking. I'm trying to keep these sections between 250 and 350 words which is challenging, basically just trying to include the most important historical developments and give fair coverage across a region. Happy to defer to you as I've not done much work on West Africa tbh Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:02, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

Yeah... it is very likely that there is content that I myself put on Wikipedia in the past that I no longer agree with. I'm always trying to read more and more widely, so my opinions evolve. And then sometimes there are things that seem clearly true if you put several sources in conversation with each other, but none of them explicitly make the connection, so you can't use it here... it's complicated. Catjacket (talk) 21:20, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

I had that problem w the sentence on Mali's collapse/Songhai's rise, struggled to find a source that gave a coherent narrative (and mentioned Yatenga's role). Ngl I copy content I've written to other pages a lot, and have sometimes found some very dumb mistakes. Key is just to keep reading I guess, I'm only able to do this 'project' after two years of reading/writing, even then my knowledge/understanding is hopelessly shallow in places Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:28, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

Michel Izard, the most prominent historian of the Mossi that I know of, does not believe that the Mossi who raided the Mali empire and helped break their hold on the Niger Bend are the same people who founded Yatenga etc. I'm not sold on his argument, but still you definitely should not go out to look for sources that say that Yatenga had a role.

Michael Gomez's African Dominion could probably be your coherent narrative source. But also let's not forget that Mali did not collapse when Songhai rose. It remained a powerful, if somewhat diminished and southerly state, and didn't collapse until after Songhai did. Catjacket (talk) 21:42, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

How on earth have I not heard of that book before. Thanks, I'll use it in future. Re Yatenga, Zahan 1973 discusses origins. Re Mali, yeah, it's more their empire collapsed, but it's hard not to be grotesquely reductive with the word limit. Main purpose is giving people a cursory view and the links to learn more Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 22:04, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

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