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Cheers, ChzzBot IV (talk) 15:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
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Best, ChzzBot IV (talk) 15:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation
{{subst:AFC submission/submit}} to the top of the article.) Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Hallows AG (talk) 21:35, 23 November 2011 (UTC)How to edit entry?
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As I understand it, we need to include in-line references for this entry to be accepted by Wikipedia. Is anything else needed? Will it go through another review process?
Because I wasn't sure how to proceed, a shorter version was also submitted. The longer version is much-preferred.
Please advise as to how best to proceed.
Many thanks, William Pepper
- You do need inline references, but these references should support Notability. At present, I don't see anything in the draft to indicate that he is notable. In addition the sentence In the popular imagination, he is known as the “Indiana Jones of Ancient Ales, Wines, and Extreme Beverages.” is problematic. At a minimum, it requires a reference, but it is hard to imagine a reference which would contend that this is true, so it may need to be reworded, if an appropriate reference is found. Otherwise, it will have to go.
- Does he have an publications which appear in refereed journals? This will help, although discussion of such work will be even more help.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 20:49, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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I have familiarized myself much more with the ins and outs of Wikipedia, and edited the article close to a final version, I believe.
It should be noted that Patrick E. McGovern is very notable, having been listed in Who's Who in America. He has written or edited ten books and over 150 articles, most of which have been peer-reviewed. His book on Ancient Wine won the prestigious Grand-prix in Histoire, Littérature et Beaux-arts from the Organisation Internationale de la Vigne et du Vin (OIV) in Paris, the principal wine organization of the world. Uncorking the Past won an award from the Archaeological Institute of America, the largest such organization in the U.S. He lectures widely at museums and institutions in the U.S. and around the world. Recently, he gave the opening night address at the annual meeting of the Archaeological Institute of America in Philadelphia, a distinct honor. He is a consultant on many archaeological and scientific projects. He is a pioneer of the interdisciplinary field of Biomolecular Archaeology. He has been a visiting scholar and taught at many universities, including Penn. His work has been extensively profiled in popular outlets, e.g., see the July-Aug. issue of the Smithsonian magazine, Brew Masters on the Discovery Channel, etc.
I can certainly add more details to the write-up along these lines or others, if that will be helpful.
One problem that I did run into and couldn't solve was how to link to a non-Wikipedia entry or a Wikipedia entry when the title as such was not used in the article. I did discover a way around this by placing the weblink in square brackets after the text in the article, which produced another series of footnotes separate from the reference list. See Iran and Kavaklidere in the text for examples. Maybe, there's a better way to handle this?
Many thanks, William Pepper
Help
- On Wikipedia, add either section
==Further reading== or ==See also==
Off Wikipedia,
==External links==
Cheers. Dru of Id (talk) 03:35, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for the help in citing some additional Wikipedia and non-Wikipedia links; I decided to use See also.
What is the next step in the process--a review and decision on whether the article is suitable now for Wikipedia?
Cheers, William Pepper
- By using the down arrow next to the 'Search' box, you prompt the 'Move' option. Consider adding the {{AFC submission}} template at the very top, then moving it to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Patrick McGovern (archeologist) (or /Patrick E. McGovern) for review (there are currently 417 awaiting review, and 200~400+ are reviewed daily), or (not recommended), (no template) directly into article space Patrick McGovern (archeologist)/Patrick E. McGovern. Note that Patrick McGovern is what we call a disambiguation page, where he would be included, which allows readers to choose their destination. The article will be reviewed by a New Page Patroller (NPP), and may be propsed for deletion (I think this would be declined) or may be submitted for a deletion discussion (which take a week or more). Stay calm, many editors will look it over, apply 'Wikification' formatting, categories, and help improve it. At worst, you can request it be returned ('Userfication'), and improve it without time pressures. Dru of Id (talk) 19:15, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Re: Patrick E. McGovern
This Smithsonian article refers to him as "the world’s foremost expert on ancient fermented beverages".[1]
This should meet 1/2 of the notability concerns; other available references should more than meet the rest, showing coverage in multiple independent sources. Initially, less is more: pick the most important detail from each source, understating so that the importance isn't lost in the volume.
The reference is formatted: <ref>{{cite web |url= http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/The-Beer-Archaeologist.html |title= The Beer Archaeologist: By analyzing ancient pottery, Patrick McGovern is resurrecting the libations that fueled civilization |author= Abigail Tucker |date= August 2011 |work= ''[[Smithsonian (magazine)|Smithsonian]]'' magazine |publisher= [[Smithsonian Institution]] |location= www.smithsonianmag.com |accessdate= March 13, 2012}}</ref>
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