User talk:Ejhpm

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Please help me with... Hi, my article was rejected due to being too biased. Could someone please help identify the points in which there are bias so I am able to make changes? I tried to model the page after other Security Companies like ADT and Vector. Ejhpm (talk) 19:09, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

You disclosed a COI, what is the general nature of it?

See other stuff exists. Though understandable, it is a poor idea to use any random article as a model or example, as it too could be inappropriate and you would be unaware of this. If you want to use other articles as a model, use those that are classified as good articles. 331dot (talk) 19:13, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to the good articles page - I was not aware of this and will review some of the relevant pages. I largely used ADT and Vector as models as they are in the same industry as the topic, and I assumed their general topics met a threshold of neutrality and could be purposed for this article.

My COI is that I am employed by the company. Ejhpm (talk) 19:18, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, that means that you must make the stricter paid editing disclosure instead of a COI disclosure. Your salary as an employee is sufficient to trigger this requirement, it does not require specific payment for editing. I would also suggest that you read WP:BOSS, and have your superiors/colleagues read it too. 331dot (talk) 19:26, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I will make that change to my user page. And thank you for sharing that page as well; I've discussed several of these points with the group which requested the article, but will share this with them as well.

Once changing my user page, am I free to re-submit? Or are there specific changes you would recommend? Ejhpm (talk) 19:33, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

So I am going to tell you what I tell many in your position. You are telling us what the company wants us to know about it, like its offerings, activities, and what it considers to be its own history. That's the wrong approach. You should be summarizing what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about your company, showing how it is a notable company. "Largest family owned company in the Midwest" might qualify, if most independent sources discuss that aspect of the company and what makes it significant. Does it have a particular influence in its industry for that reason? Something like that?

Routine business activities like acquisitions of competitors doesn't contribute to notability, per WP:ORGDEPTH. Awards don't contribute to notability unless the award itself merits an article(like Nobel Peace Prize or Academy Award).

Please see WP:BOSS, and have your superiors/colleagues read it, too. There are also good reasons for a company to not want an article. My advice is to not pursue this further, to be honest. But if you wish to proceed anyway, you'll need to jettison the things that don't contribute to notability and focus on sources that do.

Creating a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia, and it's even harder with a conflict of interest. We usually recommend much experience via editing existing articles first before attempting it. 331dot (talk) 19:56, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Draft:Per Mar Security Services, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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