User talk:Railsparks

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Direct Democracy Ireland, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. With COI you shouldnt edit the article, and you keep breaking the links, and removing cited material. WP:3RR is a good read too Murry1975 (talk) 14:58, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

murray1975 sorry new to this still trying to figure it out,but i was requesting changes to the ddi page and also you said DDI wasnt around in 1922 of course they werent but Direct Democracy was why dont you list article 47 of the 1922 constituiton for everyone to see other would you rather keep up the pretende that we never had it.

Because DDI have nothing to do with the 1922 constitution, why not link democarcy in ancient Greece? I has nothing to do with them either. Murry1975 (talk) 15:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

the sole purpose of DDI being formed was to reinstate Direct Democracy back into the constitution like it was in 1922 maybe should read article 47 of the 1922 constitution and then look at article 47 of the current constitution and you will see the difference,i can always copy and paste it if you like if you cant find it.

Direct demorcary isnt meantioned in the 1922 constitution, "on the written demand of two-fifths of the members of Dáil Eireann" and then a direct vote, isnt direct democracy. Also the 1922 states "I will be faithful to H. M. King George V., his heirs and successors by law in virtue of the common citizenship of Ireland with Great Britain and her adherence to and membership of the group of nations forming the British Commonwealth of Nations".

I see you have pur forward yourself for adminship. A way to get around the article editing restriction? A few of things, you have to have a good high level contribution history, and other people have to express faith in your abilities and show such qaulities in your edit history, and your suppor for yourself is a given. It aint gonna happen with your Murry1975 (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I would suggest you read, WP:ISNOT and WP:NOTHERE. Murry1975 (talk) 21:19, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

murray1975 i see deleted the reply about direct democracy being in our 1922 constitution this just shows you are biased towards Direct Democracy Ireland or part of a political grouping that does not want it,admins are supposed to be neutral and not one sided which you clearly ,as it was cited material that i had put on this page and you had removed it.So you prefer to put up material that suits you and not what is the truth.it is you that should be removed as aan admin.

I have archived your RfA, given that you did not complete the nomination process and you do not meet the implicit criteria for adminship (see WP:NOTNOW). I strongly encourage you to read Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship. Antrocent (♫♬) 04:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

attrocent if the correct infomation is put on the DDI i wouldnt have to keep editing the page but as murray1975 seams fit to post material that is not conclusive to DDI but being totally biased even on my talk page he deleted cited material as Direct Democracy being in our first constitution it shows him to totally biased against DDI and would a request to have removed from edition the DDI page as its only for his own agenda or if he was to allow this cited material to be posted without him removing it every time material is posted. Below is articles 47&48 of the 1922 constitution with the provision of (Direct Democracy)

Article 47.

Any Bill passed or deemed to have been passed by both Houses may be suspended for a period of ninety days on the written demand of two-fifths of the members of Dáil Eireann or of a majority of the members of Seanad Eireann presented to the President of the Executive Council not later than seven days from the day on which such Bill shall have been so passed or deemed to have been so passed. Such a Bill shall in accordance with regulations to be made by the Oireachtas be submitted by Referendum to the decision of the people if demanded before the expiration of the ninety days either by a resolution of Seanad Eireann assented to by three-fifths of the members of Seanad Eireann, or by a petition signed by not less than one-twentieth of the voters then on the register of voters, and the decision of the people by a majority of the votes recorded on such Referendum shall be conclusive. These provisions shall not apply to Money Bills or to such Bills as shall be declared by both Houses to be necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health or safety.

Article 48.

The Oireachtas may provide for the Initiation by the people of proposals for laws or constitutional amendments. Should the Oireachtas fail to make such provision within two years, it shall on the petition of not less than seventy five thousand voters on the register, of whom not more than fifteen thousand shall be voters in any one constituency, either make such provisions or submit the question to the people for decision in accordance with the ordinary regulations governing the Referendum. Any legislation passed by the Oireachtas providing for such Initiation by the people shall provide (1) that such proposals may be initiated on a petition of fifty thousand voters on the register, (2) that if the Oireachtas rejects a proposal so initiated it shall be submitted to the people for decision in accordance with the ordinary regulations governing the Referendum; and (3) that if the Oireachtas enacts a proposal so initiated, such enactment shall be subject to the provisions respecting ordinary legislation or amendments of the Constitution as the case may be.

this is the cited material that murray1975 keeps removing from the DDI page this material can easily be verified by following this link www.irishstatutebook.ie/1922/en/act/pub/0001/print.html

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Dear wiki i have repeatedly tried to make corrections to Direct democracy ireland,jan van de ven is not the current leader of DDI Pat Greene is http://www.directdemocracyireland.ie/honour-and-privilege-to-be-elected-once-againpat-greene-leader-of-direct-democracy-ireland/ also there is other issues with the page that have not bee allowed to be correct,most the cited material used is just heresay and not actual fact.

Done Stickee (talk) 01:55, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

hi i am looking for the reference to be removed in relation to DDI of the primetime interview (Rita O'Reilly (24 October 2013). A Matter of Trust - RTÉ Prime Time (Investigative Documentary into the Freeman movement in Ireland, National Television). Dublin, Ireland: Radio Teilifís Éireann.)this interview was engineered to discredit,DDI themselves were not allowed to have any opinion or given chance to confirm or deny this it was just typical gutter journalism as you would find in ireland.

Hello, I'm MusikAnimal. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Direct Democracy Ireland  with this edit, without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:11, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Get a hobby, you deluded fantacist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.220.53 (talk) 12:26, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Direct Democracy Ireland. Murry1975 (talk) 13:45, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Direct Democracy Ireland shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Murry1975 (talk) 13:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

first of i did used cited material to make the edit and now your saying that that is unsourced which i did use form the Irish Times so that is not cited material then.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Railsparks (talk • contribs) 14:02, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Railsparks it has to independently reported, in other words not a quote from one of the DDI saying what they are, Gilroy in this case "The party is not “left or right but about balance”, party member Ben Gilroy said as he invited people and groups to join." You have been on here long enough to know this. Murry1975 (talk) 14:06, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

if that is the case then that would apply to political partys and grops making up there own story about a political party and publishing it on there website,and then being used as sourced material,but you seam to have no problem with that.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Railsparks (talk • contribs) 14:19, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Railsparks, you and Murry1975 need to discuss this instead of reverting each other. I've fully protected the article for a couple days to allow for this. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

hi have tried to make factual correction on the DDI page but to no avail it is always murry1975 or snappy who revert the page they seam to be watching the page like a hawk for any changes,as soon as a change is made they have it reverted within a few minutes,that is not the actions of someone who un biased or neutral,as i have previously stated the supposed cited material is alleged and not proven,there seams to be no problem using material off another political partys website for sourceable material but when i try to do it i am told i cant,these reference need to be taken down or backed up with creditable evidence to substantiate these these claims.

Reuters is not a blog. It is a reliable source, something you are having a bit of difficulty grasping. Murry1975 (talk) 18:25, 2 November 2015 (UTC) are you sure its not a blog maybe you should do a bit more research as this was copied from there page. blogs.reuters.com/padraic-halpin/page/12/?archive=articles&page... Jul 16, 2015 - DUBLIN, July 16 (Reuters) – Former Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern ... Social Democrats latest new Irish party ahead of uncertain elections.

(Below added from my page, try keep all together)

so i see its ok to use a blog as sourceable material for one group but not another just shows how unbiased and neutral you are as thats what editors are supposed to be you have just shown your true colours. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Railsparks (talk • contribs) 18:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

What are you on about???? Reuters aint a blog!!! It as an article written by its Irish political correspondent, not blog. YOu are the one that added a primary source, and incorrectly cited it. Murry1975 (talk) 18:34, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

so can you not read the first 4 letter work try putting your glasses on (blogs.reuters.com/padraic-halpin)

Not on the page I was linked to,

uk.reuters.com

Also sign your comments, the first piece on this page said it to you and it still apllies. Murry1975 (talk) 18:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

blogs.reuters.com/padraic-halpin/page/12/?archive=articles&page=13 Jul 16, 2015 - DUBLIN, July 16 (Reuters) – Former Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern ... Social Democrats latest new Irish party ahead of uncertain elections.[[:railsparks}}[blogs.reuters.com/padraic-halpin/page/12/?archive=articles&page=13] Jul 16, 2015 - DUBLIN, July 16 (Reuters) – Former Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern ... Social Democrats latest new Irish party ahead of uncertain elections.</ref>

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

i am finding it very difficult to edit this page user murry1975 and snappy are repeatedly reverting changes that have been made on the DDI page most of the reference material that has been used is unsubstaniated but it is allowed to be used as factual material,wikipedia editors are supposed to be unbiased and neutral but clear this not the case.Railsparks (talk) 18:58, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Railsparks, this is not a place to discuss edits to a specific article. You should discuss them with other editor's at the article's talk page (Talk:Direct Democracy Ireland). Vanjagenije (talk) 15:52, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

hi Vanjagenije, i have tried this several times to discuss with other editors to no avail,i have asked several questions relating to Direct Democracy Ireland wiki page questioning the reliability of the sources but have been told thats whats there and thats the way it is,i will happily discuss this with someone except 3 editors on the page who do not have a NPOV. Railsparks (talk) 18:00, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

user(snappy) i suppose you are going to say now that the irish times is not citable materialRailsparks (talk) 17:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I'm CAPTAIN RAJU. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Direct Democracy Ireland— because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. CAPTAIN RAJU ^(✉) 19:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Your recent editing history at Direct Democracy Ireland shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 23:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

user batsun i have tried to reason with editors but to no avail i have used citable material which i was told i could use and when i use it the page is reverted i have left queations on the users pages and they have not replied,if you are willing to accept my sources as citable sources i will engage in a calm and collective manner.Railsparks (talk) 18:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)