User talk:The Midnite Wolf

i've removed this table from the Folx article. please vet similar edits in the future, especially in regards to unsourced content: the sample list did not warrant inclusion. Kinnimeyu (talk) 08:11, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

How does it violate WP:INFO? Listing sample credits is standard practice on Wikipedia, see My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy or To Pimp a Butterfly. It's all sourced from the bandcamp page as well. If you click on a track title then you can see the credits for it. – MW_(t•c) 08:27, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

the problem is you're comparing landmark and award-winning albums whose sample credits are just about ten lines in size (many of which are analyzed with sources in the article) to an independent bandcamp album, whose unwarranted sample list composed of one hundred and thirty-nine lines takes up an entire third of the article's size.

please read WP:UNDUE carefully: "Undue weight can be given in several ways, including but not limited to the depth of detail, quantity of text, prominence of placement, juxtaposition of statements, and use of imagery."

additionally, i advise you read WP:IINFO "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information" and WP:NOTDIR "Wikipedia is not a directory", both of which were stated in the reason itself. it doesn't seem this rationale was taken into consideration with your reply and revert.

finally, noting its nature as a bandcamp microgenre album, take WP:SPS into consideration: "Be careful when using such sources: if the information in question is suitable for inclusion, someone else will likely have published it in independent, reliable sources." Kinnimeyu (talk) 09:09, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Can you show me the Wikipedia policy that states we should have different rules for albums depending on how famous they are? UNDUE is in relation to NPOV and irrelevant here, unless you're gonna argue that a majority of music scholars agree the album doesn't actually contain any of those samples.

Which specific item in the lists in IINFO and NOTDIR are the sample credits violating? The information is not indiscriminate or directorial. It's very relevant to the album.

With regards to the source, see WP:TRACKLIST: Track listings can be sourced to liner notes (WP:PRIMARY) as a definitive WP:VERIFIABLE source without the usual WP:SECONDARY sourcing requirements of most Wikipedia content... Per WP:AFFILIATE, commercial sources such as online stores and streaming platforms are acceptable to cite for track list information – MW_(t•c) 19:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

you're misusing WP:TRACKLIST and WP:AFFILIATE here. yes, these are WP:VERIFIABLE... explicitly for track lists. note i didn't take action against the unwieldy track list because its presence is valid. a 139-line granular sample list is not a track list. you wouldn't need to ask this question if WP:IINFO was properly read and interpreted: refer to point 1, "Summary-only descriptions of works". wikipedia's for summary, not a personal whosampled-like database. just because it's true doesn't automatically warrant inclusion.

also, this isn't what WP:UNDUE is for. see WP:BALASP. if the overly long track list weren't already there, your sample list alone would be double the length of the entire article. i actually checked this.

• "An article should not give undue weight to minor aspects of its subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight proportional to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject."

you backed up the sample list with a single citation: the bandcamp page. even with all other sources in consideration, > 90% of the sample list isn't discussed anywhere reliable.

in the future, kindly avoid edit wars (WP:EW). i will be removing the table one final time. please see WP:3RR, and consult WT:ALBUMS if you have further opinions about this matter that you want addressed. if you attempt to re-add the sample list, this will be taken up with WP:DRN. Kinnimeyu (talk) 19:21, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

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