Talk:AAA (video game industry)

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Don't see general agreement either to rename this article or what to name it instead. As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors may strengthen their arguments and make another attempt in a few weeks to garner consensus for the highest and best title/disambiguator for this page. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! (closed by page mover)  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  18:52, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

AAA (video game industry) → AAA gameAAA game – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NATURAL this makes sense as a better title that would not require parenthetical disambiguation. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:26, 23 March 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:29, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose as sounds too much like it's referring to a game called "AAA". Maybe AAA game (video game industry), but even then that is unnecessarily expanding the title. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:37, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
  • With all due respect, it doesn't sound like that at all, and I don't see why you would think that. If it were about a game called "AAA", then it would be called "AAA (video game)" per Wikipedia policy. There is literally no game on Wikipedia that is called "Title game", so there's no way anyone would get confused._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:15, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

• AAA rated game or AAA game classification are other alternate names which are less ambiguous than simply "AAA game". I still don't quite get what the issue is with the parentheses, but if they're going to be removed, should it not aim to retain clarity? Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:15, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
• I have to agree with Bungle here; if the proposed title is not ambiguous with a particular game, it still sounds like a game genre, along the lines of Role-playing game, Board game, Casino game, Online game, Battle royale game, etc. Dekimasuよ! 16:39, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

• "AAA" isn't a "rating", it's a genre of sorts, generally implying that the game has a massive budget. AAA rated game makes no sense. Just like Blockbuster film is the de facto term for a high budget film, AAA game is the de facto term for a high budget game and that is used commonly in sources._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:21, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

• I'll remain neutral on the proposal for now. Dekimasuよ! 13:54, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

• Blockbuster film isn't the primary article for that though. Besides, I made another suggestion of AAA game classification which you didn't poo-poo (so to speak) and one which is less ambiguous. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:29, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

• Move to AAA video game to reduce ambiguity. feminist (talk) 16:57, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure what the ambiguity is with, as there are no AAA board games or AAA gambling games. AAA game is a redirect there - the term is only used in video games. However, I do still support this version more than the current title._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:11, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support for "AAA game". It meets all of WP:CRITERIA better than the current title or any of the other proposed titles. "AAA rated game" and "AAA game classification" are both very confusing and un-recognizable titles—to me, they both sound like some sort of official label/rating system, when in fact, "AAA" is a fairly informal and arbitrarily-applied label. "AAA video game" fails WP:CONCISE; as User:Zxcvbnm said, there is no other type of game that uses the term "AAA". The title "AAA game" is also really good because it is WP:NATURALDAB—the exact phrase "AAA game" is used all the time in news sources. –IagoQnsi (talk) 03:36, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

One more point: User:Dekimasu said he disliked this title because it sounds like a genre, but it sort-of is a genre—at least, in the same way that indie game is sort-of considered a genre (and "Indie game" has the same name pattern as "AAA game"). Poke through some of the articles in the Google search I linked above and you'll see what I mean (for example, here's an article where, in the first sentence, "AAA" is sort-of implied to mean "opposite of indie"). –IagoQnsi (talk) 03:46, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

• I still find myself somewhat reluctant to endorse the original proposal. Sources used in the article like this and this use "AAA" without necessarily appending "game": "Pursuit of AAA is"... "that will leave the AAA blockbusters..." "AAA launches are..." "present themselves as common-or-garden AAA titles..." "the AAA market..." "conventional AAA publishing..." "tough climate for AAA launches does not..." This use of "AAA" as a noun by itself indicates to me that the article is probably at the right title where it is now. Leaning oppose. Dekimasuよ! 18:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
• Proposal: It seems like there's a decent amount of opposition to "AAA game", so I'd like to propose a compromise: Why don't we at least shorten the title a bit by making it "AAA (video games)"? The word "industry" isn't particularly necessary in the title, and this would make it a lot more WP:CONCISE. --IagoQnsi (talk) 06:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.