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A fact from A Media Luz appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 March 2026 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that "A Media Luz" ("With Dimmed Lights") is one of the most successful tango compositions of all time?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Did you know archive/2026/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/A media luz.

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:05, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

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... that "A Media Luz" (transl. "With Dimmed Lights") is one of the most successful tango compositions of all time?

Source: *Curotto, Angel (June 7, 1964). "Figuras del Tetro Rioplatense" [Figures of the Rioplatense Theater]. Diario El Día (in Spanish). 33 (1638): 11. Retrieved January 16, 2026 – via Archive.org.
Ferrer, Horacio (1977). El libro del tango: crónica & diccionario, 1850-1977. Vol. 1. Editorial Galerna. p. 105.

- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Right Here, Right Now (Giorgio Moroder song)

Created by GDuwen (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

GDuwenHoller! 17:32, 30 January 2026 (UTC).

Article was previously a redirect and was created on January 28 as an overwrite of that redirect. In this scenario it is considered a new article and not a 5x expansion. I have modified the nomination template to reflect that this is a new article. It was nominated on January 30 in the proper window. No copyright violations detected and QPQ has been done. Hook fact is interesting, but I am having trouble verifying that fact. I will need a quote in the original Spanish and with an English language translation provided here to verify the hook fact.4meter4 (talk) 16:56, 26 February 2026 (UTC).

Thanks for taking up the nomination. I'll gladly provide both of them:

Curotto:

Spanish: "Según las estadísticas de la Sociedad Argentina de Autores y Compositores de Música, esa composición musical, con “La cumparsita” y “El choclo”, siguen siendo todavía los mayores éxitos mundiales de la música popular rioplatense."

English: "According to the statistics held by the Argentinian Society of Music Authors and Composers, that musical composition, together with "La Cumparsita" and "El Choclo", still are the biggest successes worldwide of Rioplatense popular music".

Ferrer:

Spanish:"A MEDIA LUZ. Tango. Música de Edgardo Donato, letra de Carlos César Lenzi. Se cuenta entre las obras de mayor éxito, de más larga permanencia en los repertorios y de mayor divulgación nacional e internacional."

English:"A MEDIA LUZ. Tango. Music by Edgardo Donato, lyrics by Carlos César Lenzi. It is numbered among the most successful works, with the longest stay in repertoires and one of the most widespread nationally and internationally."

Note that the translations are my own. I've made the attempt to do it as faithfully to the original text as possible, so some of the wording may sound awkward to read.GDuwenHoller! 17:44, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

@GDuwen: Hmm.. I do not see popularity directly stated in those quotes (although certainly hinted at). "Most successful" would be verifiable and/or "most enduring work in the tango repertoire" would be verifiable. Without the word "popular or "popularidad" its not really feasible to make the claim as the quote is basing success on the enduring place in the tango canon and how widespread it is (which again hints at being popular but isn't outright stated). I would try crafting a hook more directly tied to the translation. Sorry to get fussy here, but we've had too many hooks get dragged to WP:ERRORS over little stuff like this. Some minor tweaking of the hook language based on these quotes should yield something we can use.4meter4 (talk) 04:19, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

@4meter4: Excuse me for the late reply. I can reword the hook for sure, but I don't really understand how the first source wouldn't be clear enough to call it "popular" when Argentina's version of RIAA was stating that it was among the biggest successes in popular music (they referred to stats that looked directly into record sales). The second source is a bit more subjective for sure, but it does refer to how it happens to be a perennial piece of music to tango repertoires and recordings. With that, I would consider it to be a match to Merriam-Webster's definition of "popular".

As I said, I can reword it (and I've seen similar discussions around other nominations as you correctly pointed it) but I think we're getting a little too picky altogether. False information is for sure not admissible and it hurts Wikipedia, but there's nothing wrong with a bit more of a subjective hook that is easily verifiable. I had to revisit the nomination I reviewed as the QPQ for this hook because even though the information was properly sourced, it was not extremely explicit within the article I guess...GDuwenHoller! 17:36, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

@GDuwen: If this weren't wikipedia I would agree, but unfortunately we have many nit-picky editors/readers who will drag us to ERRORS over small stuff like this. I know it is annoying, but we really do need to stay a bit closer to the language in the quoted text to avoid issues when this runs on the main page. Please propose alternative hooks below. Best.4meter4 (talk) 17:12, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

@4meter4: Just replaced the hook, I hope this sad trend reverts at some point to what it used to be. It makes all harder for the reviewer and for the reviewed for sure.GDuwenHoller! 18:52, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Looks good. Hook fact is verified to the source. This hook (which was rewritten above in the spot of the original proposal) can be promoted.4meter4 (talk) 18:58, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

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