Talk:Air rage

The flight attendants want to have more training so that they can be better prepared for cases like this and so that they can better handle the situation. They want to have tools that can restrain the passangers to their seats in case they are overly aggresive and so that they do not harm flight attendants or other passengers.^[1] Samatlock (talk) 02:08, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Samatlock, this is my week 6 evaluation for our Psych class. This post was supposed to be on the article's page, but still, I corrected your grammar and sentence structure. However, because it is not on the main article, your source cannot be identified for the class. Also, if it were posted on the article, I wouldn't really have an understanding on what "situation" you are describing, so maybe elaborate on that so your reader can better understand what you are talking about. Happy editing! danielle*rose (talk) 01:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm concerned that more than half of this article is just examples of people behaving badly on planes or at airports. A lot of the examples seem like fairly minor incidents involving otherwise ordinary people, and even the incidents involving celebrates seem pretty trivial. My thought was that WP:BLP discourages including content like that in the encyclopedia. Are any of the incidents actually notable enough that they should be mentioned as examples here? I'm somewhat of the opinion that the whole examples section should just be removed, but I wanted to know what other people think. Calathan (talk) 21:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I decided to ask about this article at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Air_rage, since no one responded here and that was the best place I could find to get opinions from people familiar with BLP policy.

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I suggest that Unruly aircraft passenger be merged into Air rage. The subjects described are pretty much exactly the same. Unruly passengers are responsible for air rage. Why have two separate articles that describe the same thing? Funplussmart (talk) 01:20, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Just do it. It's obviously right. EEng 02:30, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Okay then. I guess I will do it. Funplussmart (talk) 21:42, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Give me another drink! I demand to speak to the captain! This is outrageous! Do you know who I am? EEng 21:43, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Don't say stuff like that. That is not what the talk page is for. Funplussmart (talk) 23:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Land the plane! I want off! EEng 01:58, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

The article claims that "The most common cause of a passenger or crew member acting unruly is from drunkenness."

The only support provided for this claim is a single study that suggests that half of offenders had recently consumed alcohol, and a dictionary citation (https://dictionary.reverso.net/english-cobuild/air+rage) that claims "Most air rage incidents involve heavy drinking" without any source.

Even assuming that the one study cited that found half of people involved in air rage incidents had consumed alcohol is accurate, this is not evidence that alcohol can legitimately be described as the single overarching cause of most of those incidents, and it discounts the fact that even given the above assumption, half of all such incidents didn't involve alcohol, and thus there could well be a more subtle and overarching cause that encompasses more than half of these incidents, irrespective of alcohol consumption.

The claim is simplistic and not well supported. The most one can legitimately say is that a study showed that half of all western passengers involved in air rage incidents had consumed alcohol recently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:2501:F5D:61E:A741:5238:6E4A (talk) 17:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

In the "Causes" section the article also claims "The HKPU study found that on Asian airlines, where air rage incidents are rarer due to a less entrenched drinking culture and greater tolerance for the inconvenience and space shortages involved in air travel". However, the citation links to a paywalled article at a publication that Wikipedia's own article suggests may be primarily a propaganda vehicle, and the only visible relevant claim on the page says that "Asian societies are more well behaved, based on common Confucian values", which has nothing directly to do with alcohol consumption or being tolerant of confined spaces. So this claim appears to be speculation.

The "Traits" section in general seems to be an expression of some sort of personal animus over this issue in general. Examples:

"Undue anger": "Undue"? What does this have to do with the subject matter? A characteristic of a person with air rage would seem to be simply anger, regardless of how "due" it is.

"Gratuitous violence": "Gratuitious? What does this have to do with the subject matter? A characteristic of a person with air rage would seem to be simply violence, regardless of whether or not it is "gratuitous".

"Unruliness": Seems redundant with "Disruptive behaviour"

"Temper tantrums": Seems redundant with "Disruptive behaviour" as well as possibly pejorative

"Obnoxiousness": Does this really belong here?