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Hi CNMall41, thank you for your contributions. FYI, please do note that I have re-written the article. M. Billoo 19:22, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi CherryPie94, hope you are doing well. Reason to mention you is that initially, you had declined this article's AfC. Afterwards, a sock expanded this and moved to mainspace. However, then I re-wrote it and have been editing this page since yesterday. But recently, this page has been flagged, therefore, I request you to please make a comment as well. Thank you! M. Billoo 19:37, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000:, See WP:CANVASSING. Also, you do realize that you are editing the same pages as the StayCalmOnTress sock farm. What is your connection to these account or pages of their clients?--CNMall41 (talk) 20:05, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

If you're pinging me to ask whether it's notable and written in NPOV, I'd lean more on the side of sure. No idea what the sock background is, so no comment there. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 08:29, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

@CherryPie94: Thank you for your kind comment, and understanding my neat intention.

M. Billoo 08:35, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

With all due respect, I felt disheartened and discouraged by the response. To clarify, I have no association with any sock groups. Neither do I know any Wikipedian personally, nor am I editing on behalf of anyone. My edits are totally based on what I have learnt from my own mistakes and from valuable input by many senior editors.

Editing similar topics alone should not be the basis for such serious questioning, but a more detailed review of the editing patterns is very necessary before drawing conclusions. I understand this may not be the right place to respond, but I felt to speak up against the suspected accusation which was difficult to ignore.

My intention is always to contribute positively. I sincerely believe that a respectful discussion leads to better outcomes than making assumptions — especially towards users from a particular region, since I have witnessed the same previously at Draft talk:Tabish Hashmi where another fellow country Wikipedian was there too. If I have made any mistake, I am more than willing to learn and improve. And if anything in my reply comes across the wrong way, I apologize, because no offence is intended.

I do not like violence and I am not here to defend sockpuppetry; I stand against it firmly. Thank you for understanding. Hope for betterment. M. Billoo 22:11, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

Sorry you are disheartened, but it was your editing pattern that gave rise to the question (which you answered), not just editing the same pages. It was also a question not an accusation, unlike yours about being biased towards a specific group of people. I have followed SCOT Sock Farm for a couple years so I know exactly how they edit, defend, talk with other socks in an attempt to mask, avoid CU due to their familiarity with SPI, and make accusations of bias against that region of the world. So yes, the veiled accusation in your "reply [came] across the wrong way." --CNMall41 (talk) 22:32, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

Then let's just talk constructively about betterment of the page, instead of destructive statements or assumptions about someone. You need to highlight if there is any issue in the page, which I missed while editing and can be rectified. M. Billoo 23:36, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

Seems like you want to avoid the other part of the conversation. At this point, I would suggest letting another editor review as I took a quick look and see there are plenty of unreliable sources so the cleanup you did would not have taken care of the issue. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:10, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes 3O is ne very crucial. This all does not prove me being a paid editor (as you flagged the article after my re-writing). I am not being offensive, and I am not playing victim. I am just trying to be defensive and repeatedly offering a very specific constructive conversation rather than...... M. Billoo 10:22, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

FYI, I filed at SPI but wanted to notify you so you can comment there if necessary. Also, this is canvassing and a continuance of your accusation of me being biased towards a race/nationality. I will bow out of the NPOV discussion so someone can look at it with fresh eyes. I will say that your accusation against me needs to be taken to ANI with evidence at this point as there is nothing to support. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:13, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

I will add that IPs are now removing the COI template. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:01, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

NPOV?

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