Talk:RuPaul's Drag Race season 10
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Alphabetizing of The Vixen
We've bounced this back and forth enough to make a talk page discussion worth it. In my opinion, the "The" is part of her Drag name, and as such it should be alphabetized under Th, not V.Naraht (talk) 21:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Well, that might be your opinion, but VH1 lists Vanessa before The Vixen so we should defer to that. See, e.g., the MTQ playlist or the livestreamed interview with Sasha. It'll be a moot point in any event since they're only in alphabetical order until we know what place they finish on the season. Umimmak (talk) 21:58, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Referencing
Is "backyardbracket.com" a reliable source for the contestants' names? Especially since the other source writes: (Tony asked to be identified by his first name only, citing concerns for his personal safety.)
we should be particularly careful about sources that might just copy names from unreliable sources like wikia.
Also the prose plot summary for episode one went from using the episode itself as a source to using the AV Club as a source due to a deletion of a citation and an addition of a refname. Seeing as the summary was not originally using this source as a reference, I just wanted to make sure this was an intentional change and that the summary should be written just based on the AV Club review. If we do, can I suggest a better name than "episode1" since that is unclear that refers specifically to the AV Club review of episode one (I assume the article will incorporate reviews from other sources)? Even "avc_ep01" or something like that. Or we add back the reference to the episode itself as originally written.
Umimmak (talk) 10:32, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about the website you mentioned but I removed the citing of the episode as it went against what was agrees over on the consensus on series talk page, which is we can use the episode as a reliable primary source for placing if it is explicitly stating, if not it should be a reliable secondary source. Hope that clears it up. Brocicle (talk) 10:58, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Hope that clears it up.
No not completely. That explained why you removed it as a ref for the Contestant Progress table but not why you removed it as a reference for the summary down in Episodes, where it had been used as a reference for like, who won the mini challenge, who won the main challenge, who won the lip sync, etc. I suspect it was unintentional and you just didn't realize the episode itself had multiple footnotes associated with it? Umimmak (talk) 11:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
- So should it be added back? Or should it now be referenced as if it had been written using the AV club as a source? I suppose the AV club (or some other ref) is needed for the statement about Yuhua being in the top for the week, but should the rest cite the episode itself? A variety of reviews from WP:RSs -- presumably we don't want our summary to be based entirely on one arbitrarily chosen one? Or are uncited statements implicitly understood to have the episode itself as a primary source? Umimmak (talk) 11:14, 23 March 2018 (UTC)