Talk:Emma Sinclair

Hi there, I have updated this page so that it conforms to Wikipedia's standard of formatting, sources and references. However, it is constantly being reverted to the previous version that is incorrectly formatted, sourced and referenced. I do not wish to be involved in an edit war. Please can you help me.Keeley Dann (talk) 20:05, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

I reverted because you removed referenced content, as I said in the edit summary. Specifically, there were two WP:RS references for Sinclair being forced out of her public company, Mission Capital, in 2008.^[1][2] You removed the refs and mention of her removal. Also, instagram and articles by Sinclair are low quality sources and should be replaced by independent coverage.Dialectric (talk) 02:47, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

If there is no policy-based objection to including these references, I will add them when protection is lifted, to support a sentence stating that Sinclair was forced out of her public company, Mission Capital, in 2008.Dialectric (talk) 19:25, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

I have reverted BonaFide88's readdition of the disputed material primarily because their edits at EnterpriseAlumni were blatant violations of the biographies of living persons policy. It may be reasonable to re-add the material with reliable sources, but at least one discussion participant's interpretation of "reliability" was so far off track that I have reverted all of their contributions about living people. Policy-based objections may be about undue weight, a lack of neutrality, for example. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Are you making an objection to inclusion, or just positing what possible objections might be? One sentence on Sinclair's being forced out of the company is reasonable weight. The removed sentence as written was reasonably neutral, but could be pared down to just 'In 2008, Sinclair was forced out of her public company and lost her subsequent High Court case calling for reinstatement.' If there are no objections, I will add it in the next few days. If there are objections, I can open a WP:RFC to discuss this inclusion.Dialectric (talk) 23:51, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I probably shouldn't have reverted the change here on this page, as I personally was only concerned about the misuse of self-published and primary sources in the EnterpriseAlumni article. I have incorrectly assumed that the reference quality was similarly low here. Financial Times is something different than a self-published attack website.

Regarding holding an RfC, or perhaps a notice at WP:BLPN/WP:COIN: The more opinions by experienced users we can get, the better. Keeley Dann's sadly limited discussion participation hides the fact that one user strongly, and probably with a COI, opposes including the material. They're unable to provide policy-based objections as they lack policy knowledge. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Would like this to be considered for re-entry, I believe there is no dispute over this paragraph. If there is, please let me know. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Keeley Dann (talk • contribs) 18:27, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

The paragraph should not be added unless better sourcing is available. alumni.rothschildandco.com is a non-independent commercial source and lower quality than independent WP:RS refs typically needed for a WP:BLP.Dialectric (talk) 09:44, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Dialectric. I have reinstalled this paragraph with an independent source for Rothschild & Co. I do not believe this paragraph was otherwise in contention. Please let me know if this is okay. Thanks! Keeley Dann (talk) 20:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

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Hi everyone, stumbled across this page by chance, and after a little Googling, I've found that Keeley Dann is the name of one of Emma Sinclair's assistants. It stands to reason that Ms. Sinclair has probably asked Keeley Dann to "clean up" her Wikipedia on her behalf. Especially when we look at the removal of Ms. Sinclair's ousting from her company.

Just food for thought. JFezRidesAgain (talk) 16:12, 7 December 2022 (UTC)