Talk:Gigi Hadid

She won Model of the Year in 2014. 2A00:23C5:EDB0:B001:7875:FFCB:5A59:604E (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

The article says Gigi Hadid is Muslim, which is factually incorrect. She has never identified as Muslim and in an interview with Elle she spoke up about growing up with both Islam (her dad's religion) and Christianity (her mom's religion) and said she would expose her daughter to different backgrounds too.

The sources they have cited are of different people trying to claim her as Muslim (such as the article calling Gigi and Zayn as a "Muslim power couple" despite the fact Zayn has openly said he left Islam). None of those sources are reliable or based on what Gigi said. Why is this post locked with such a big factual inaccuracy added based on people's personal feelings? Sfatima6789 (talk) 00:34, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

1) It's sourced (this is all that's needed to end this discussion). 2) I don't see what's so surprising about her being Muslim: her father is Muslim, her sister is proud to be a Muslim and so is her brother (who performed the Umrah in Mecca). M.Bitton (talk) 20:19, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

Re:, as pointed out at User_talk:Maria1718182#Gigi_Hadid, I don't see a problem with the Guardian ref. I'm unclear what the Elle ref adds though. --Hipal (talk) 16:39, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

There isn’t a direct statement from her citing her religion. It’s more of a guess by the article because their father identifies as a Muslim. Unless Gigi has directly been open about her religion like Bella was, I don’t think the source is very reliable. The Elle article also highlighted that she was raised with both traditions but doesn’t identify with a particular religion. Maria1718182 (talk) 23:00, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

It's verified by a reliable source. We don't rely on WP:SYN to exclude content. --Hipal (talk) 00:40, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Look at -> Wikipedia:Categorizing articles about people -> Religion

It is clearly stated that :

“Categories regarding religious beliefs (or lack of such beliefs) of a living person should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief in question (see WP:BLPCAT), either through direct speech or through actions such as serving in an official clerical position for the religion. For a not-recently living person, there must be verifiable reliable published sources that, by consensus, support the information, and show that the description is appropriate. Religion is not heritable. Never categorize by a religion of any parents or other ancestors.”

The Guardian is a reliable source, but this particular article is an opinion piece that uses rhetorical framing and does not cite any primary sources indicating that Hadid identifies as Muslim. Furthermore, the language used is metaphorical and imprecise, and should not be used to establish factual claims. The article treats religion and heritage as interchangeable. It treats Palestinian heritage and family background as if they equalled a personal belief. Once again, for a source to be reliable, especially this one, it needs to cite a reliable primary source, which this article does not do, unlike the Elle article. We cannot cite it as evidence of her religion just because a journalist made an uninformed assumption. Maria1718182 (talk) 19:39, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I've remove it given the Guardian ref should be treated as an opinion piece given it is from the Ask Hadley fashion column. The Elle ref is opinion as well, and does not verify the content. --Hipal (talk) 20:15, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I agree. Maria1718182 (talk) 20:30, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

@Quaerens-veritatem: I understand what you're trying to achieve, but it wouldn't work in this instance because the statement is (at least, it looks that way) about the parents' ethnicity (you'll notice that the mother is described as Dutch, even though she's American). M.Bitton (talk) 23:08, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

The usual status in wikiarticles is at the time of birth, and an example is the way Gigi's article is written: the parents' status at her birth - "Jelena Noura Hadid was born on April 23, 1995, in Los Angeles, California, to Palestinian-American real-estate developer Mohamed Hadid and Dutch former model former model Yolanda Hadid (née van den Herik)." When Gigi was born, Mohamed was Palestinian-American and Yolanda was Dutch as Yolanda didn't have US citizenship until 2013, long after Gigi's birth and 13 years after Yolanda's divorce from Mohamed. The rest of the paragraph goes into Gigi's descent. By the way, for what it's worth, Hipal thanked me for adding Palestinian-American for Mohamed. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 00:21, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

@Quaerens-veritatem: Where does it say that? Please link to the guideline in question. Also, if that was the case, then why did you make this edit (which was reverted earlier today by Hipal)? M.Bitton (talk) 01:08, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

@M.Bitton: That was based on experience not a precept, perhaps you could look at other articles. Just quickly, perhaps Cary Grant, Betsy Drake, and Eva Marie Saint are examples that are close as they list what parents did / were around when they were born. The edit I made (Palestinian Muslim) was (a) a pre-RfC edit before Mohamed's article used Palestinian-American, (b) was made back on 15 June 2025, (c) it is telling that it is not used by you now, and (d) I agree that it is now WP:UNDUE and that's why I didn't dispute the revert.
Putting all that aside, (1) it's just a matter of logic regarding Mohamed as a Palestinian-American that is notable and relevant to Gigi's birth, (2) the use of Palestinian-American for Mohamed complies with MOS:BLPCHRONO: "Within a single section, events should almost always be in chronological order." – the chronology is her birth date and the parents' status at that time, (3) the two article references for Gigi's birth are: No.11 – it specifically says about Mohamed "...the United States, his adoptive country" and No. 10 – just says "Gigi and Bella were born to Yolanda and Mohamed Hadid in 1995 and 1996" – so the refs also don't support your edit, (4) Mohamed Hadid's article says he is Palestinian-American, and he was so long before, at the time, and after Gigi was born, (5) there was a RfC and lengthy discussion so Mohamed would be referenced as a Palestinian-American which he uses himself, (6) at least one other editor – a Pending changes reviewer and Rollbacker with 140,664 edits – agrees that Palestinian-American is correct, (7) Palestinian-American fully covers Mohamed as it is defined as "Americans who are of full or partial Palestinian descent", (8) also, note how Bella Hadid's Early life section reads. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 04:54, 24 September 2025 (UTC)