Talk:Godot (game engine)

For transparency sake, I notify editors that @Grayfell removed sources that mention Ariel Manzur, a co-founder of non-profit Godot and a technical advisor of The Mirror, see Special:Diff/1176768304. Another maintainer and several members/contributors of Godot also work at The Mirror. According to the list WP:RSP, while there's no consensus on whether Entrepreneur.com is reliable, it all depends on the context. The Mirror was featured on the Elevator Pitch, directly mentioning that they use Godot Engine. They also directly mention that they work with Godot contributors. Xrayez (talk) 13:48, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

These kinds of call-out posts are pointless. Transparency is already provided by the article's edit history, which remains visible.

Thinking about it, I think mention of The Mirror should be removed completely. In context, the one source seems flimsy and does not really explain why this particular nondescript attempt at a metaverse is noteworthy. The standard here, as with other game engines, is WP:WTAF. If the product becomes independently noteworthy, the use of these sources could be reevaluated.

The Elevator Pitch appears to be a primary source for these details, since it is, by design, a platform for those within the project to talk about their product. It's not enough for this to be technically correct, we have to be able to explain to readers why it matters, and these sources do not allow us to do that. Grayfell (talk) 21:04, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

The Mirror does not have to be universally notable. For example, OKAM Studio is not notable per se, but it an essential part of Godot's history, which allows us to mention it in Wikipedia article about Godot. What makes The Mirror notable, in our context, is the fact that Ariel Manzur joined The Mirror as a technical advisor:

• Ariel Manzur, the Co-Founder of Godot, Joins The Mirror as a Technical Advisor

Therefore, I'm against removal of this information, and I encourage editors to restore it, along with other secondary sources that Grayfell conveniently ignores and labels as churnalism:

• Game From Scratch: The Mirror – Godot Powered Commercial Game Engine

Xrayez (talk) 11:06, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, full disclaimer I work at The Mirror. I just wanted to say that I am also doubtful that it belongs on this page. The Mirror is in its very early stages. At least, this brief mention looks out-of-place by itself, since the page does not mention other development platforms like Ramatak or Gotm, other development tools like RPG in a Box, and other metaverse platforms like V-Sekai (there was one more but I forgot its name). It may be best to remove this mention, and hopefully in the future we can provide a more detailed list of platforms after they have matured, stood the test of time, and have shown long-term relevance in an encyclopedic context. Aaronfranke (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing up the other projects. However, I think the key point may have been overlooked. As mentioned earlier, what sets The Mirror apart is the involvement of Ariel Manzur as a technical advisor. Ariel is a co-founder of non-profit Godot and presently represents the Godot PLC. This alone adds significance to The Mirror in this particular context, hence it is very notable.

On the topic of Ramatak, since you brought it up, it's worth noting here too. Ariel Manzur is a co-founder of Ramatak, along with HP van Braam, who is not only involved in Godot as a plumber but is also a member of Godot PLC. W4 Games is already covered on this page for similar reasons—it's owned by Juan Linietsky and Rémi Verschelde, who happen to be the lead developer and project manager of Godot, respectively.

Additionally, it's important for transparency regarding your association with Godot. You haven't mentioned that you are a Godot maintainer, @Aaronfranke. This raises concerns about a potential conflict of interest, which should be disclosed as per WP:COI.

All above is important to mention for transparency reasons. Xrayez (talk) 12:49, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

I don't really feel that this reasoning for inclusion holds up. If The Mirror was notable enough to have its own article on Wikipedia, then it may be worth mentioning, but as of right now, this is basically a piece of trivia.

Ariel Manzur's involvement doesn't really make this any more appropriate for this article. If Jimmy Wales announced that he was the new CFO of Tumblr, you wouldn't include that in the article for Wikipedia.

It's also very strange for you to bring up Aaronfranke's potential COI for being a Godot maintainer, when you made an entire topic (directly below this one) arguing that being a Godot maintainer doesn't give you a conflict of interest, and even went so far as to remove your own COI disclosure. I'll be reinstating that for you. miranda ^:3 19:33, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

I would like to request to that Aaronfranke also declare their COI, if they do have one. miranda ^:3 19:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I do have a COI. I both work for The Mirror and I am a maintainer of Godot. So, lots of COI. Aaronfranke (talk) 07:48, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Update: I no longer work at The Mirror. Aaronfranke (talk) 11:14, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

As per discussion below, I realized that I don't have a COI because I'm no longer a Godot maintainer. Despite being a respected co-author, the leadership revoked my right to contribute to Godot's development. Unlike @Aaronfranke, I have no control nor influence over Godot's development now and am not affiliated with any official Godot matters. If you still think there might be a conflict of interest, I'm open to and tolerant of having my name visible at the top of this page. It's all in the spirit of fostering transparency. Xrayez (talk) 12:53, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Should we wait for other sources to cover the subject? I only found one other source: https://tribune.com.pk/story/2499996/godot-woke-controversy-explained Ahri Boy (talk) 12:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, right now its far too UNDUE to include. If major reliable sources cover it, we can consider it. Masem (t) 12:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Currently, the coverage of forks like Redot, which have emerged from Godot following its recent reputational crisis, has been limited. However, the future potential is significant, and much will depend on the impact these forks have and the sources that arise to support them. Right now the only sources available are not relevant. Sergeant Batou (talk) 08:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

There is no "reputational crisis", ergo, there's nothing to cover. The forks will have about as much impact as the rest of Alt-tech has, which is to say zero. The only thing that's needed here is extended protection to put a stop to the persistent disruptive editing that's been happening for almost a week now. 46.97.170.18 (talk) 10:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

WP:GENSEX might apply here. Ahri Boy (talk) 17:33, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

I think it would be hilarious to see the GENSEX banner on this talk page in a month and have people be confused about why it's there. No, I don't think it's justified. We don't designate the article of every single gay person as contentious, and doing it for a game engine would make even less sense. Dieknon (talk) 21:22, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Note that this page was already placed under ECP protection temporarily for 48h. I wouldn’t be opposed to extending this protection if necessary but what’s most likely is that the crowd will move onto the next topic du jour.  novov talk edits 21:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Not ECP but semi. Ahri Boy (talk) 00:03, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

My bad, you’ve correct. I was reading a separate conversation about extended confirmed so it was on my mind.  novov talk edits 00:14, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

ECP would be justified because semi cannot stop people with throwaway accounts. 46.97.170.18 (talk) 10:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

I very much doubt that this fork will amount to much. given the precedent of similar attempts, and the fact that they have not even managed to change the readme.  novov talk edits 21:42, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

The redirect Wokot has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 28 § Wokot until a consensus is reached. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

I added an update about the ability to use Godot on Meta Quest devices without the use of a computer - could someone tell me if there was a better place I could have put it on the page? PixelatedStov493 (talk) 02:28, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Much to @~2026-69981-5's frustration, there does not seem to be any documentation, release notes, or any easy to find sources for all human languages the Godot editor supports. Specifically, one that backs up the claim that Godot has Toki Pona support. The closest to a source that I could find is GitHub discussion, and a Git commit on Godot's official GitHub repository. Is there a better and comprehensive source that can be cited for the available languages section of the infobox? IHeartVideoGames (talk) 03:02, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

it is in the actual engine though ~2026-69981-5 (talk) 03:03, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

I believe you, but I believe you still need a source in order for the Wiki article change to be allowed. IHeartVideoGames (talk) 03:09, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

There's also this translation plugin but that does not necessarily mean Toki Pona is native to the engine.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 03:13, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Its frustrating all around.

I think Godot listing available languages for the engine would be helpful to everyone. IHeartVideoGames (talk) 03:14, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

The Weblate platform is used for managing the translations, but there are many more in-progress ones there that aren't actually available in the engine currently (110+ currently including some very obscure and esoteric ones sitting at <5% translation), and I'm not sure there's a clear cut-off for when a language is officially considered for inclusion. NullConstant (talk) 03:21, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

I guess the question is now "what should count as a usable translation?" Though, this is entering forum territory. IHeartVideoGames (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

i think what broski means was if you download the engine nd then go to settings and language and scroll down you can see it but toki pona abbreviation is tok and godot puts toki pona as tok i confirmed. i might post footage tho ~2026-71426-1 (talk) 02:07, 4 February 2026 (UTC)