Talk:Joseph Conrad
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 | Joseph Conrad was nominated as a Language and literature good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (August 15, 2025, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
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Length?
This reads like an introductory essay, not an encyclopaedia article. As a reader I want general information and links to more, but I am forced to wade through so much detail. The structure seems OK, but it really needs focusing - maybe half the length (how many words is it now?) 178.147.93.11 (talk) 07:27, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- The page size tool says the article has 11,454 words in "readable prose". The editing guideline at Wikipedia:Article size#Size guideline suggests ab article of that size "probably should be divided or trimmed", so it is worth discussing what can be done to shorten the article. Do you have any specific recommendations as to what content should be deleted from the article or moved to a new article? Donald Albury 15:42, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- Just wanted to say that this article reads really well, at least as someone who enjoys the subject. I always disliked articles on authors which just list commercially famous works, highest honors, etc. It's important to reference literary importance, description of style, influences, relationship of author's life to their work. These are the real substance of any good article like this. But obviously this is too long for Wikipedia, I wish the person who wrote the bulk of this would write a biography! I'd read it. Maybe I already did...
- I can take a crack at reducing the size while retaining the merit. Biggest targets are life and writing style. Also how important are these end notes really for a Wikipedia article? Never done a big article cut so I don't have a lot of confidence. Esobrev (talk) 18:46, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Please note that splitting some of the content to a new article is an alternative to removing content. I suggest proposing specific edits here, either deletions or splits, and waiting a bit to see if anyone objects. While you can be be bold, removals of content from the article without prior discussion may be reverted by other editors, which would then require discussion (see Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle). Donald Albury 22:43, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Reason I didn't mention splits is because of what I'd be splitting. I don't think there's precedent for a solitary "Life of Joseph Conrad" or "Style of Joseph Conrad" article. That's not really what we do here right? The only thing I've seen is a dedicated bibliography page. Esobrev (talk) 00:27, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Please note that splitting some of the content to a new article is an alternative to removing content. I suggest proposing specific edits here, either deletions or splits, and waiting a bit to see if anyone objects. While you can be be bold, removals of content from the article without prior discussion may be reverted by other editors, which would then require discussion (see Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle). Donald Albury 22:43, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Joseph Conrad/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Nihil novi (talk · contribs) 06:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: It is a wonderful world (talk · contribs) 14:16, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
Hey @Nihil novi, thanks for putting some great work into this article over the years. Unfortunately I'm going to have to quick fail (WP:QF) this due to a few glaring issues:
- There is swathes of un-referenced content throughout the entire article. Nominators should be relatively sure that everything in the article is fully supported by the ref supporting it. I would normally to a spot check to see if the sourcing issue run deeper (they normally do), but I can't get access to "Joseph Conrad, A Life" unfortunately.
- This article is a decent bit too long. At over 11,000 words long WP:TOOLONG highly recommends it be cut down. FA biographies of the most influential people are typically around 9000 words long, so I estimate a length of around ~8000 words would be appropriate for this article
- There are some unresolved maintenance tags like "[unreliable source?]" and "[user-generated source]".
Due to the above, this article is far from meeting criteria 2b (references) and 3b (unnecessary detail). Feel absolutely free to ping me on the article talk page if you have any questions or want further clarification. I'm happy to guide you through the process of bringing this to GA if you would like. IAWW (talk) 14:16, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.